Johnbee58 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 One of my favorite quotes is from Spanish philosopher George Santayana (1863-1952). “Those who fail to learn from the mistakes of their predecessors are destined to repeat them”. This song is mostly instrumental but there are two short vocal verses towards the end that reflect my interpretation of what Mr. Santayana was saying in light of modern times. ?John B https://www.soundclick.com/music/songInfo.cfm?songID=14482893 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSband Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Another good one John. Nicely written song, good melody and of course really good playing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 ?'s John. There's a couple of spots I'd use We've instead of We have and I'd use We made so long ago instead of We've made... Minor editing really. I'm always impressed by how well you use Trilian, but sometimes I think you get a little too "melodic" (and you know my feelings on the high bass notes). (keep in mind I spent too many years playing over bassists who were actually guitar players playing bass ?) For me, the bass is the "anchor" of a tune, and its getting in the way of the vocal melody (IMHO). Maybe a synth voice for those times when you feel you want some melodic support of the vocal. If I'm sitting in the producers chair, these are the things I would bring up in pre-production. Deal breakers? No, not at all; just my rambling thoughts as I listened to the tune; take 'em with a grain of salt..... ? t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dream Art Scientists Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Nice piece and the mix sounds great! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bajan Blue Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Good tune and the mix sounds excellent - the Bass sounds great to me - I noticed toms comments re high bass notes and guitarists who play bass - ? guilty here I am afraid!! cool Nigel 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn Wilson Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 4 stars! I'll bet you could write for Broadway because your chord progressions and melodies are beautifully unpredictable. Your mix sounds very professional and polished. Good lyrics. Your track record proves that you're a powerful songwriter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Joad Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 'We're not beyond such acceptance of change We may regret this in the long run." Dude!!! Where do these lines come from?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted September 8, 2022 Author Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, DeeringAmps said: ?'s John. There's a couple of spots I'd use We've instead of We have and I'd use We made so long ago instead of We've made...? t Thanks Tom. Syllables for the melody. I needed 2. "We have" uses 2. "We've" only uses 1. If this is grammatically wrong I guess I'll just have to claim literary license. You have a point with the "We made so long ago". I may go back and change that. Edited September 8, 2022 by Johnbee58 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted September 8, 2022 Author Share Posted September 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Old Joad said: 'We're not beyond such acceptance of change We may regret this in the long run." Dude!!! Where do these lines come from?? Hi @Old Joad And thanks!? "Surely there is someone who cares" So we should be able to accept changes that hopefully (could) result from learning from our past mistakes and not be so bull-headed to think we're OK as we are. If we cannot "We may regret this in the long run", meaning we may look back someday and wish we would've changed. Hope this clears this up for you. ?JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted September 8, 2022 Author Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) @KSband, @Dream Art Scientists (love the name), @Bajan Blue, @Lynn Wilson as well as @DeeringAmps & @Old Joad Thank you all! ?John B Edited September 8, 2022 by Johnbee58 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted September 8, 2022 Author Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Bajan Blue said: Good tune and the mix sounds excellent - the Bass sounds great to me - I noticed toms comments re high bass notes and guitarists who play bass - ? guilty here I am afraid!! cool Nigel @Bajan BlueThen I'm in good company? ?JB Edited September 8, 2022 by Johnbee58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Joad Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) Just for the record, I didn't mean you ?ed. I meant, you're da ? ☮️☮️ Edited September 9, 2022 by Old Joad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noynekker Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Hi John . . . another great piece you've accomplished here . . . your piano accompaniment is always the driving feature, with melodic bass . . . really interesting chord changes in this one. In the middle, that vocal part where you say (the theme) "The Long Run" . . . it has some efx on it, that kind of obscure it, as it pans left to right . . . I get it on my headphones, but on my speaker listen, it's not so clear, maybe more volume there ? . . . but otherwise it all sounds great, and very clearly recorded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjornpdx Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 I really like this one, John. The bass line plays off the melody and ties things together nicely. Well done. I stumbled on the word "err." "Mistake" seems like a better word to use there. Also, the song sounds pretty upbeat for a somber subject so maybe a little minor key here and there would work? Well, just a couple of suggestions from my own unique take on the world. -Bjorn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, noynekker said: Hi John . . . another great piece you've accomplished here . . . your piano accompaniment is always the driving feature, with melodic bass . . . really interesting chord changes in this one. In the middle, that vocal part where you say (the theme) "The Long Run" . . . it has some efx on it, that kind of obscure it, as it pans left to right . . . I get it on my headphones, but on my speaker listen, it's not so clear, maybe more volume there ? . . . but otherwise it all sounds great, and very clearly recorded. Thanks, @noynekker. I didn't listen to it on speakers yet, so thanks for the observation. I'll try to work on that. ? ?John B Edited September 13, 2022 by Johnbee58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, bjornpdx said: I really like this one, John. The bass line plays off the melody and ties things together nicely. Well done. I stumbled on the word "err." "Mistake" seems like a better word to use there. Also, the song sounds pretty upbeat for a somber subject so maybe a little minor key here and there would work? Well, just a couple of suggestions from my own unique take on the world. -Bjorn Hey, @bjornpdx, thanks so much! To tell the truth, I'm not really sold on that "err" thing myself. I'm using it as a noun when it's actually a verb in that context and I've been having some conflicts with what I should use there and what I'm going to change it to. "Mistake" I don't feel would sound well sung with that melody though. I have to re think the whole thing through, I guess, but thanks for your keen observation and suggestion. You guys don't miss much. ? ?John B Edited September 13, 2022 by Johnbee58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy j Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 This song has your signature all over it and that is a very good thing. The mix sounds good to my tired old ears --- Well Done! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 5 hours ago, freddy j said: This song has your signature all over it and that is a very good thing. The mix sounds good to my tired old ears --- Well Done! Thanks so much, Freddy! ?John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 Changes made 9/13/2022: Lyrics changed to "We have lost count of the pains we've endured. Nobody remembers. We lie to make it right" as per @bjornpdx @DeeringAmpssuggestion: "we've made so long ago" to "we made so long ago". @noynekkersuggestion: the line "the long run" panning was removed and volume was adjusted. Hard pans to about 4o'clock right. Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I hope it makes better sense now. ?John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 I "liked" it the first go round (here and at SoundClick). I still like it! ? tit would appear today I am the "big" little t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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