Mark Morgon-Shaw

I reccommend buying at least a 2nd one for serious DAW work, they are so cheap nowadays. I'm not sure how much work you do but I write, mix and master at least 100 tracks per year for TV so I am all about workflow and producivity.

I have a 3 screen setup so screen space is not an issue for me. It's just easier to show everything closed for clarity. I understand I just don't think it's needed. YMMV

Closed ? Do you mean the Pro-Channel ? I never have it open because I don't really use it very much. All I use is the HP & LP filter from the EQ. I normally do that in the Inspector on the track view because I do it when I add the instrument. I mix as I write as it's quicker and I do most of the mixing in the track view. Cakewalk never had a Pro-Channel when I started using it more seriously, so I have my own preferred plugins for everything. But you can open and close all Pro-Channels simultaneously using the quick groups.

You dont need to open another window. They are right there on the same screen if you want them to be.

Not at all - I'm just putting forward a reasoned counter argument as someone who uses Cakewalk a lot more than most. Any bus created is automatically routed to the Master bus by default.....where else do you want it routed ? I see no extra steps here ? As mentioned I've never used Cubase. I've tried S1 - Reaper - Bitwig - DP - Logic - PT - Garageband - Mixcraft - Samplitude and was long time Music X user, so no I don't know the advantages of a Group Track as offered in Cubase..the guy in the video called it a bus ...so I presume it's very similar. If it isn't you haven't exapined how or why it's different and what the percieved advantages are. New track types are rarely introduced into mature DAWs and there's good reason for it. I don't think there are any more steps..maybe one step at most, which could be elimintated by adding a right click option to create new bus from selected tracks. Faster still would be using a project template with everything bussed the way you want it. So ulitmately you have a lot less steps over the course of multiple projects. The layout of channels and busses follows the paradigm of harware mixer topology, so it makes sense from that perspective.

It's not really a one click process according to the video. Once the selection is made... Right Click on one of the selected..that's one Choose Add Group Channel to Selected Chanels ...two Choose Stereo or Mono...three Name it and press OK...four clicks...you could argue it's maybe 3 if it defaults to stereo and you don't need to select it. .....VS CBB Insert Buss...one Make track selection ( we don't count this step in either example ) Click Tracks from the header menu...two Click Selected Track Outputs..three Select buss from dropdown and click OK ..four...so it's maybe 1 click more at most. If you have a template with busses already set up ( like I have ) then it's only 3 steps. Seems to me that the steps are pretty similar in both DAWs, they are just in a different order so I'm not sure it warrants a whole new breed of track types being introduced. If you feel the above is too many steps then something that doesn't involve any major changes to the DAW but would endhance the workflow in this scenario would simply be to add a new entry to the right click menu in the track area. " Add Selected Tracks To New Buss " then it would simplify the process without adding more complexity.

I've never used Cubase as it requires a dongle even for a trial. Although I gather that might be changing going forward.Is this what you mean ? I mean that's pretty much the same as creating a buss in CBB . The only difference I can see is it creates the buss from the selection instead of how you would do it in CBB by creating the buss first and then assigning which ever tracks you want to it. The number of steps required looks about the same , you just do them in a different order. My busses are in my default template so I never need to create them anyway. Just select my tracks the exact same way as the Cubase guy, go to tracks - selected track outputs and it's done. I don't see much difference betwen the two workflows.

I am not sure we need more than the tools already available. You can already create Quick Groups and easily route audio through Busses or Aux Tracks like you say, and you can also assign tracks to Folders. How would a Group Track make this already simple process easier ?

I never use the Pro Channel. Except for the EQ HP & LP filters - I wish you could access them without opening the PC ( like on 8.5 ) - you can adjust the other 4 bands from the mini plot but for some reason the filters !! Yet the filters would be very easy to use even from the mini EQ plot. Annoying,

I suppose you could argue that's what the Track Manager is for but I agree it's a more ergonomic way of working although I might want a better visual indication that it's a folder. I'm sure someone could design a decent graphic.

Get 3rd monitor ?

A macro creator within CBB would be amazing

Yes. I use a StreamDeck https://www.elgato.com/en/stream-deck

Make a macro

Yes I know. Not what this FR is about.

It's similar in some ways to the existing " Apply Trimming " function so maybe it could be an extension of this Apply Trimming-> Constrain to Measure

PS - You should try to edit your post titles to something else instead of " hello " Maybe " FR : Hide All Midi Tracks "

You can already do this. Press H to bring up the track Manager - Select the Midi toggle - Press Space to check / uncheck I guess you could prgoram a one button macro for it if you wanted to

Haha..yes you could put it that way..actually that might better but maybe quite a bit more complex for the Devs to code.

For clarification, all I am asking is whether it's possible to add extra functionality to the Midi Tab in the Inspector so it has the most commonly used quantization options available without needing to insert a plugin each time.

Yes - I meant you can't add them to the track FX bin

I am asking for the functionality of the Quantize Plugin from the MidiFX to be replicated in the Midi Inpector per track for the following reasons: 1. The plugin is more flexible than the Process - Quantize menu as you can tweak the parameters 'on the fly' for best results ..some may ask ' well why not just use the MifiFX plugin then ' and my answer would be that (a) it takes time to instantiate if you want it on lots of track and (b) You can'tadd it to the FX bin of a Simple Instrument Track. 2. There is a great big space just crying out for something useful to be put there If you watch this tutorial from another DAW you can see how handy it is, and how it operates.

There is - It's useful when using string libraries with variable attack envelopes, they can change just by switching articulation for example. Being able to see the audio waveform for these types of parts makes it way eaiser to align them with each other so it's better to freeze and slide them around. If you could unfreeze it and have the underlying midi move along with it this would be a huge benefit as it would keep all the timing adjustments but allow you to still edit the part later. At the moment you just have to put it off until the end and then do it in the hope no further changes are required otherwise you have to do it all over again.

I can't get it to work under Mackie Control here, I've given up on ACT. Can you outline exactly what settings you changed ? This is what I tried..I set the DAW mode to Cubase on the Oxygen Pro, then selected the below on Cakewalk..it doesn't respond at all when I try any knobs, faders or transport control though. The Oxygen keyboard itself is diplaying various knob and slider values on it's own display.

Yeah, I mean who wouldn't need to open it ?