Mark Morgon-Shaw

I've used Cakewalk since Windows 95 days and I've never used the Loop Construction section - I think I may have looked at it many many years ago and dsmissed it for my workflow ...what do you mainly use it for ?

If you're interested in writing for Libraries, I suggest following the Sync My Music Youtube channel - there is a free 5 part course about writing for production music libraries there where you can get an overview of what it's all about. I have to warn you though it's pretty competitive and you would need to write at least 50 tracks per year for a couple of years to make any sort of dent in it. Although this is one of the better tracks I've heard on the Cakewalk forum the production bar is somewhat higher for sync so you'd need to hone those mixing and mastering skills some more to reach the standard but it sounds like you have some decent composition ideas that would work for TV. Mostly you have to write to briefs rather than whatever comes into your imagination - " We need X styles of music for upcoming shows " - so you have to be cool with writing what they need , rather than what came into your head that day. If you do get anywhere it can be rewarding to hear your music in TV shows, much better than just sharing stuff with friends online and hoping someone wil listen. It's kinda cool to know literally millions of people have heard your music around the world, even if they don't know it was you. The money can vary hugely, I've had some placements earn literally pennnies whilst the best ones can make 4 figures over time. All I would say to you or anyone else interested is if you do it you go all in. Read the Dan Graham articles in Sound on Sound about library music, and be prepared to do a lot of work for a couple of years with zero money before you start getting any traction. Good Luck ! Edit : Posted a link to some tracks in a thread I just made

Thanks Noel, I just tried the reditributable installer and the only difference it made was Cakewalk now tells me an update is available too

They need a pathway for their Bandlab users to upgrade to , their App apeals to the younger demographic but I suspect when they make the jump some of the users who came through as beatmakers etc will not find the transition as easy as it could be and we could lose them.

Hey Noel - Same issue here , it happened after I installed Wavelab 11 ( 30 day Trial ) and it updated a bunch of redistributables Using the rename workaround for the time being.

Same here

I requested this in 2019 and many others before did so on the old forum

Yep This a common occurence when midi editing, it shouldn't really happen and is a pain I think the point is the PRV shouldn't allow crazy tiny midi notes to be created that then can't be edited properly, I've got in the habit of deleting them and re-drawing when it happens. Got zero to do with playing skills , if you do any extensive amount of midi editing this is a regular occurence.

I don't really have any separate midi tracks as I just use simple instrument tracks

All hail the mightly Console Inspector

I'm not sure what you mean then ? If I hide a Folder in Track Manager the corresponding console strips are hidden as long the option to keep the track / console views in sync is selected ?? I.e. - Only Drums selected in Track Manager Leaves me with only the Drums in the Track View And correspondingly in the Console View So it does respect the folder in both views

I've said it multiple times, but Cakewalk will never regain it's place among the top DAWs until they cater for modern producers with a proper sample workflow.

So basically it's an Inspector for the Console View that would include a Track Manager- Why not make that the request, it might have wider use outside of just the Track Manager. I make 2 tracks every week , week in , week out... 100+ every year and personally I never use the Track Manager but then there are many other things in Cakewalk I never use too that others migh want. As a concept a Console Inpector might have wider implications than your orignial feature request though and may have some merit but I don't think there is much in it from a workflow / speed POV.

It looks exactly the same as the Track Manager but in the Inspector instead of a pop up menu. I mean - what's quicker, pressing H or mousing to the top of the Inspector to choose a tab ? I don't think there is much in it. Personally I think it would use up valauable space on the Inspector tabs at the top, it's already full with ProChannel - Track Properties - Clip Properties - Tempo & Arranger. I wouldn't want it to replace any of them, I don't think I've ever used it anyway even on session swith 100+ tracks. If you want a true solution the request should be about giving the user configurable Inspector tabs so " we " can choose what we use the most..and have a host of options including a track manager for those that want it. Personally I would much rather have an improved Midi inspector with proper humanise features and not rely on CAL. I'm sure everyone has their one set of preffered tools.

Software tends to adopt the old pardigms of recording hardware which is where a lot of the design features for DAWs are drawn from. On recording hardware things that tended to flash were because they were waiting for something to happen, and then went solid once it happened. i.e. on my original black face ADAT the LED above the play button flashes whilst it's reading the time code on the tape and once it knows where it is it goes steady because it's locked on to it. When you Record Arm a track or group of tracks they flash whiilst the machine is wating for you to hit Record and then they go steady. They do this with good reason though, recording to a tape based ADAT although digital is 100% destructive. You better be sure when you hit record because you'll overwrite whatever was previously there and it's never coming back. The flashing light is like a warning ...Are You Sure ?? As we also had to record with real mics and real instruments it was very different from recording into a DAW with virtual instruments. Being able to see which tracks were in record mode from a distance was helpful if whatever you were recording was across the room and using the remote to operate the recorder.

What is the perceived benefit ?

I agree, more options and ways to make curves are needed not only for the tempo track but all automation types

Not for me thanks, I see no benefit.

Fanstastic ! Where do I send the brown paper envelope full of used pound notes ?

Thanks but I am talking specifically about the track view. When you're writing with orchestral templates of 50 -80 tracks it's the best screen for an overview i find.

You work in I.T. it goes with the the terriotory Make it so ! I look forward to it in the next update !

Correct me if I am missing a setting somewhere but when writing orchestral type stuff in particular you need to use a lot of CC events to give some realism to the strings etc. What I seem to end up with is a view like the below, where the event data is obscuring the notes. The notes are more important so my request is , can there be a way to put the CC events in the background instead of the foreground of the clip. Or alternative be able to show / hide the events on a per track basis ?

I agree with the others. Unless you need a mobile studio a desktop machine is going to be more powerful, flexible and upgradable.

Sonar 8.5.3 was fantastic, I used it for a decade and many of my TV tracks still in circulation were made with it. I still think it has a clearer yet more compact GUI. Not software X, but Music-X on the Amiga, it was a far superior sequencer than the Cakewalk of the time ( and in some ways it still is ) but the Amiga was a dying platform and 30 years later look where we are. Doing things in the box we couldn't have dreamed of in 1989. ( PS - I would love to hear the music produced by the musicians on obsolete platforms but I get impression it's not going to sound radically different than using any current gen software )

I have given up waiting and started using LoopCloud now. Great app.