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Bring back good old fashioned music from the '60s:

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34 minutes ago, Joey Kelly said:

Do you recommend the Bandlab Sonar product vs legacy Sonar Professional? 

See also the separate thread, 

9 hours ago, Joey Kelly said:

Cannot receive confirmation email from old site and I'm locked out of my products.  Can anyone help me to figure out how to get back in? 

See reply in the other post:

Glad you mentioned the Expansion Pack. It looks like I downloaded/installed them June 4th/5th; super nice to have more patterns.  I may have used the Import Preset feature.  BTW, there's a quick turn around update: 1.3.1.

Here's a link to the updated support page which has the manual, FAQs, release notes, etc. 

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Harmony Bloom Release Notes: version 1.3.1:

Significant UI performance enhancements, resulting in faster load times, smoother scaling, and more fluid navigation through the presets list.

1 hour ago, User 905133 said:

Thanks for the clarification (remote control/MIDI learn).  That's why I specifically mentioned the discussion I raised years ago about the Inspector-based Arpeggiators . . . .

For me it started with a problem with MIDI Learn/Remote Control which the deeper I looked into it seemed to involve an issue with channelization.

HIstorical note: Some of my original comments on the MIDI remote in conjunction with the Arpeggiator issue were brought up in this thread:

On 9/7/2020 at 4:03 PM, User 905133 said:

If I remember correctly, one idea I was pursuing that the problem had to do with the Arpeggiator's multiple channel ability. I don't remember the details, but if others are interested in the issue, I could try to retrace my steps.**    

**ADDENDUM:

I back tracked my explorations a little. The Inspector-based Arpeggiator is capable of sending data to one or multiple channels.  I suspect this ability interferes with the proper functioning of remote control MIDI.  For my intended usage I would prefer to not have the multi-channel ability on a single Arpreggiator and to have remote control working properly. That's why when I last explored this issue I was looking into MIDI data flow in order to make a feature request that would turn each individual Arpeggiator into a single channel function.

I believe that in order for it to have multi-channel abilities, it cannot respect channelized midi commands. Ergo, not a bug but a design decision.  

I could be wrong, though.

[emphasis added 2024-09-11 since it might relate to the issue of the conflation of channelized CCs]

18 hours ago, Amberwolf said:

The point I was making (and I think what the OP is) isn't about the automation system itself (which does have a channel picker in the envelope creation dialog)...it's that if you are attempting to assign (midi learn, etc) a control in a synth, there isn't a way to pick which channel that control is on, so you can't use the same CC (regardless of source) from different channels to do two different things. [emphasis added]

Thanks for the clarification (remote control/MIDI learn).  That's why I specifically mentioned the discussion I raised years ago about the Inspector-based Arpeggiators:

22 hours ago, User 905133 said:

Previously, I have noted issues with MIDI in connection with the Inspector-based Arpeggiator.  I gave up on that.  So if what the OP is talking about is something similar, I can understand that.  [emphasis added]

For me it started with a problem with MIDI Learn/Remote Control which the deeper I looked into it seemed to involve an issue with channelization.

23 hours ago, Amberwolf said:

You can have data recorded on a track in clips that sends different channels different data and a VST synth or external hardware that is capable of using that should respond correctly.

But AFAIK you can't assign different controls on a VST (etc) to be automated by different channels of the same CC/etc.   That's what the OP wants to do, AFAICT.  I'd love to be wrong on that one. (I don't need the feature at present, but I can imagine there are people that do). 

[emphasis added]

Apologies if I misunderstood your statement to be referring to Cakewalk's automation system.   

I am aware of at least one DLL/VST3/Standalone software maker that has what I consider less than satisfactory MIDI Learn/Remote Control in that it is by default global/not channelized. 

On 9/9/2024 at 5:58 PM, Amberwolf said:

In my ancient (couple decade old?) SONAR version, I never found the option to do this either--Any CC (etc) from every channel on every port is received the same; can't be assigned differently within any specific destination. [emphasis added]

Taking "this" to refer specifically to MIDI Learn (especially in regards to plug-ins), I suspect there are also other issues that impact the ability of  third-party plug-ins to handle channelized CCs (and other MIDI data) without issues. As concerns my current test project with SONAR X1 PE, so far my channelizing has been done on the source end.  In other words, I set my usb keyboard to a specific MIDI channel. So, in both real time (when recording) and playback I have program changes, notes, and CCs on specific MIDI channels. Thus, there is no CC conflation.

BTW, while I had plans to explore the issues raised in this thread further with X1, plug-ins, use of remote control and then more up-to-date software, it seems you have found a third-party solution that might be just the thing the OP wants. So, I have put my explorations on hold (not to the back burner, but to the deep freezer!).   

I stand by my earlier comments as well as this post.

UPDATE (2024-09-12): Now Updated to 1.3.1

From the e-mail (reformatted text and replaced the e-mail link which has user/account info with a direct YT link):

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New Harmony Bloom 1.3.0 Update

• How to Update:
  • Harmony Bloom automatically detects when a new version is available, and the plugin itself will offer the option to download the new installer directly.
  • Alternatively, you can download it from your account.
• If you bought Harmony Bloom without an account, don't worry. Just create an account at www.marionietoworld.com using the same email you used for the purchase, and then email me to link your purchase to your new account.
• Also today,  I'll be live creating music with Harmony Bloom 1.3.0 If you feel like it, drop by and say hi.

Take me to the live stream

• What’s New:
  • NEW: Added patterns (states) that can be saved quickly. These patterns are stored together with the presets.
  • NEW: option to Randomizes the colors of the interface.. The colors can be excluded/included from randomization by right-clicking on the color and selecting 'IGNORE RANDOM COLOUR ACTION' or 'ENABLE RANDOM COLOUR ACTION'.
  • NEW: Quantize Notes Duration: It is now possible to quantize the duration of notes relative to the loop time, allowing notes to be held for precise intervals. When active, the duration is measured relative to the loop and quantized instead of in seconds. For example, setting QUANT. NOTE DURATION to 1/1 will trigger and hold the note for the entire loop cycle, enabling detailed control over note timing and duration in your compositions.
  • NEW: When MIDI Learn is active, a text message is displayed in the window to notify us that we are in MIDI Learn mode. A new function has been added to stop MIDI Learn via right click on a parameter.
  • NEW: Now the presets or looks files exported from the iPad version can be imported into the desktop version and vice versa.
  • NEW: added midi learn for notes actions random active notes ,select all notes, etc…
  • NEW: Show the notes that are being played on the keyboard.
  • NEW: Copy / Paste colors options.
  • NEW: Color changes can now be undone or redone.
  • NEW: added reset for midi output channels and retrigger oct options.
  • NEW: Harmony Bloom Icon  and UI Changes.
  • NEW: A new button in the Library panel allows preset imports without right-clicking (long press on iOS).
  • FIXED: When loading the presets in Standalone version the midi out was disconnected.
  • FIXED: Harmony Bloom can now read imported presets directly by adding the preset folder to the root preset folder.
  • FIXED: Occasionally did not save the window size correctly.
  • FIXED: small corrections…

Disclosure: I have no financial interest in the software or the viewing of the YT video/stream. I did purchase it when it was on sale at APD and I have experimented with it for possible use in my personal music-making workflow. I have no plans to make any tutorials or to monetize them.  

46 minutes ago, Amberwolf said:

You can have data recorded on a track in clips that sends different channels different data and a VST synth or external hardware that is capable of using that should respond correctly.

But AFAIK you can't assign different controls on a VST (etc) to be automated by different channels of the same CC/etc.   That's what the OP wants to do, AFAICT.  I'd love to be wrong on that one. (I don't need the feature at present, but I can imagine there are people that do). 

If Cakewalk's automation is not done per channel, that is a totally different matter from what I used to do with hardware sound modules.  I recorded CCs (and other parameter controls) on MIDI Tracks.  

On 9/9/2024 at 4:10 PM, Astraios said:

Why can't I address Sonar DAW plugins or VIs (soft synths) that have a MIDI 
learn function on different channels? To illustrate it concretely, here is an example: 

send MIDI CC20 on channel 4 to CufOff1 and 
MIDI CC21 on channel 4 to Reso1

 --> no problem... but now: 

send MIDI CC20 on channel 6 to CufOff2 and 
MIDI CC21 on channel 6 Reso2.

No matter how much I tinkered with it, it always seemed like the plugin couldn't 
differentiate between commands and both Cutoff controls and both Reso controls 
moved together... (what I don't want)

Then I tried this setup in FL Studio and lo and 
behold, it worked. So what do I have to do or what am I doing wrong that Sonar 
doesn't differentiate the channels and behaves as if the MIDI CC were "Omni"?

I see nothing in the OP about Cakewalk's Automation System, so I didn't assume that's what he was using. 

With hardware synth modules, I used MIDI tracks.  With software synths I either use the same method, or I use external parameter controls. 

Previously, I have noted issues with MIDI in connection with the Inspector-based Arpeggiator.  I gave up on that.  So if what the OP is talking about is something similar, I can understand that. 

I stand by my comments posted above.

BTW, I set up a single module (a Roland M-GS64 which has two MIDI IN Ports) in SONAR X1 PE and so far I have been able to have MIDI tracks going to each port (patch changes, note data, and CCs) without X1 getting confused (i.e., sending CCs intended for Port A to Port B).

I googled SE drums and learned UJAM has a product called SE Drums [SE = Symphonic Elements]. That's all I know about it, but if you used it, maybe the image of the software will strike a familiar chord--err, have a familiar ring.

2 hours ago, Astraios said:

It has also never worked with hardware, not even 10 years ago.

Based on what you say, I guess I was wrong.  I thought for sure Cakewalk software respected per channel MIDI commands (including CCs). If time permits, I will boot SONAR X1 and a multitimbral sound module to double check my memory.  If it works with one port, I will set up a second module port to see if there is any crossover of CCs from MIDI channels on one port to gear on the second port.
 

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fl studio offers a differentiated midi out input 

I am curious, what is a differentiated midi out input? Is that a feature that takes midi data that comes in on one channel/port and echoes it to a different channel/port either?  If so, how does that differ from the [ I ] and [ O ] track control parameters?

29 minutes ago, Amberwolf said:

In my ancient (couple decade old?) SONAR version, I never found the option to do this either--Any CC (etc) from every channel on every port is received the same; can't be assigned differently within any specific destination.

Interesting.  Maybe this is one of the differences between hardware synths and software synths. With hardware it was not uncommon to have channelized midi data work properly--notes, program changes, CCs, PB, MW, Aftertouch, etc. depending on the gear's MIDI implementation and settings.  I could be misremembering how MIDI data worked.  Or, maybe something changed along the way.  

If hybrid instrument tracks are split, is there the same issue with CCs?

ADDENDUM: Also, if the softsynth uses MPE, is it turn off?

I seem to recall the option (a user preference switch) to have the autodock drag'n'drop feature with Ctrl+ settable to on/off was mentioned before.  Not sure if I gave the idea a "like" or "great idea" emoji before, but I still think it's a great idea, 

42 minutes ago, Nick Blanc said:

I thought I had, but I'm not seeing it anywhere in my account.

Edit: I'm not upgrading for $49. Probably a decent price for such a synth, I just can't remember the last time, if any, I used it.

Evidently you missed the pre-release sale price that was posted during the SM3 beta period. I feel lucky that shortly after I got SM2, KV331 sent me a direct deal to upgrade to the Everything Bundle. Don't ask me when or how much, but it ended up including beta versions of SM3 as they were made available and as stated when I got the bundle, the upgrade to SM3 (when released) would be free.

In hindsight (based on the progressive betas), it was probably obvious that SM3 was close to ready for release.  I should have gone out on a limb and done a JMO about the pre-release pricing for those inclined to upgrade.  See the July 12th post (below).  I think the conversion of old presets and the addition of new factory presets was a clue that the synth engine was getting increasingly stable.

Of course, if someone wouldn't use it or had SM2 or (SM One) and never found a use for it, even $29 is $29 too much. We all have different uses, wants, needs, and budgets.

On 7/12/2024 at 4:36 PM, cclarry said:

Upgrade from SynthMaster 2: $29 (MSRP: $49)

My guess (JMO) is that there will be sales from the MSRP along the way. 

As a fan of E-Mus, this caught my eye. Despite some flaws the RFX-32 add-on was pretty amazing, and the filter controls as implemented in some of the single RU E-Mus gave users tremendous filtering power.

So, I Googled "Is minimal audio's Morph EQ based on E-Mu filters?" and found this:

I recall you are not a fan of manuals/documentation, but if anyone has links to resource materials online that correlate this plug-in with what the E-Mu's were capable of, please share. 

• E-Mu Resources (for those who like manuals):
  • RFX-32 Manual (Rev C)
  • Ultra Proteus Manual 
    • Z-plane filter descriptions: starting on pdf p. 188 [numbered p. 178]
    • See also MIDI implementation for FX parameters.

Thanks for mentioning this deal.  It might prove to be personally useful to Emulate a number of FX. 

7 minutes ago, pwalpwal said:

me too, but i checked some of the others and didn't see it so more likely to be with email/user-sharing tracking

Yup. yesterday I tracked some of the ids to mail-chimp campaigns and in at least one case the third-party vendor's tracking system.

7 minutes ago, pwalpwal said:

are you getting commission from pb?? ffs stop with your spam

There are a few other third party vendors whose sales lists are also being linked via individual posts. JMO: It might be a test run for a denial  of service style attack. It starts with new topics in the deals sub forum and then goes to other threads started by others when specific products are discussed by others. 

Might also be a faux turing thing--human pretending to be a bot.  

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