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4 hours ago, jbmckim said:

Thanks so much but I think I'm going to bag it. The pad was a gift and I was trying to use it primarily for that reason. It looks though like Session Drummer is a $99 download...which is more than the cost of the pad🙃. I might try another free MIDI production set up but I'll likely wind up taking the credit and buying a guitar pedal or like.  

Thanks again for your help.

Makes sense.  Sorry to hear you couldn't get it working. Evidently you don't have any other drum plugins (free or paid). I know I have downloaded at least one free one in the past year or so. I have Session Drummer from years ago, so it got picked up as part of the VST Scan.   

UPDATE: If you want to give the pad another chance, I just Googled "Free Drum Plugins" and there are several sites that should point you in the direction of some.  One list (2025 update on the Bedroom Producer's site) lists several I know I have tried: Sitala, MT PowerDrum Kit 2, and a few others I have seen mentioned in the forum.

Or, if you haven't traded in the pad controller for a guitar pedal yet, you might want to try the SI-Drum Kit if the Studio Instruments Bundle are included.  Cakewalk Product Center > Cakewalk Sonar > Show Add-ons > Cakewalk Studio Instruments [includes SI-Drum Kit, SI-Bass Guitar, SI-String Section, SI-Electric Piano].

2 minutes ago, Promidi said:

I think that is for the Inspector.  

I believe you are right.  I was just looking at that.

16 minutes ago, Robert Glaser said:

There's no "grabber" in mine.

Isn't that the grabber, a bit higher up in the 1st screen shot?

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Updating Cakewalk Product Center: 

Cakewalk Product Center automatically checks for its own updates on launch, and will prompt to download and install if an update is available.

FWIW I just installed Product Center 1.0.0.094 and because I am connected to the internet (and am logged into Bandlab), it did the check as expected and I was able to download and install 1.0.0.096.

3 hours ago, msmcleod said:

On the subject of tinitus... I had it for 2 or 3 years.  During the day it didn't bother me too much, but getting to sleep was a nightmare.  I was getting only 3-4 hours sleep during that time.

I started using one of these twice a day, and it completely cleared it up . . . .

Did you also have high frequency loss and if so, did this help with that?  I ask because my range starts disappearing somewhere between 2600Hz and 3000Hz.  I have attributed that to repeated exposure for workplace fire alarms, but it would be great to find out the sound is just being filter out by ear clutter!

BONUS ESOTERICA:

BONUS TRACK:

2 hours ago, jbmckim said:

905133 - There is no user guide that deals with connecting the STPAD 16 to CWSonar. In general, I'd class the Synido documentation as more of a feature list than a how-to.

Unfortunately, some consumer targeted midi gear only comes with User Guides (as opposed to manuals).  I have seen a number that are far skimpier than the one on that site.     

2 hours ago, jbmckim said:

What I have so far is Synido recognized as a MIDI device under Edit/Preferences...I can add a new MIDI track that recognizes the Synido. However, after I activate the input echo to "Auto Thru" I hear nothing when striking the pad. The meter however does show input. Further, recording the track at this point does register input proportional to velocity.

This is good as it show that (1) the pad is generating MIDI data and (2) the MIDI data is being recorded by Sonar.  I took at a quick look at the guide earlier and will need to look again to see (1) if the Synido makes sounds and if it does (2) how it gets the sounds into the computer. If it doesn't (that is, if its just a pad controller), you will need to add a plugin and route the controller to the software instrument.  If you downloaded the Cakewalk Sonar add-ons, you should have Session Drummer.

Dare I say it?  Adding a soft synth/sampler player, having it controlled by an external controller, and having the sounds played through Cakewalk Sonar, is pretty much the same as adding a piano-style soft synth . . . . 😉 Of course, Sonar has some features that are geared towards drum sounds and drum tracks. 

UPDATE: In the welcome paragraph, it says the device is "an input control device based on [the] MIDI protocol . . . [and] only outputs MIDI commands without generating sound . . . ."  So, you need to insert an instrument plug-in to make sounds.

For starters, I suggest inserting Session Drummer (or any other drum soft synth you have) and using the track widgets to make sure the controller is routed to it.

OK.  After looking at the user guide, maybe it would help if you explain what you tried based on the tutorials that don't provide enough guidance and what results you got.  

23 minutes ago, jbmckim said:

 If you feel the urge to say, like any other midi instrument please refrain. . . . Apparently drum pads are different.

Are we allowed to ask if you checked the manual for your hardware or if you checked the manufacturer's website? Are we allowed to ask if you found anything via an internet search?

BTW,  I looked up both STPAD 16 and Synido TempPAD 16 in the forum and didn't find anyone else who mentioned this piece of hardware.  Also, you didn't provide a link to the manual so if someone wanted to try to help could take a look.  Maybe someone with a different drum pad might be able to help. Maybe the link on this page will help?

11 hours ago, Larry Shelby said:

$29.57 each with code GROUP

https://www.jrrshop.com/xln-audio?dir=desc&order=special_from_date

Do you know if there is an additional discount on the AD four-packs (2 ADpacks + 2 MIDIpacks)? Thanks

I researched a method and read up on the theory behind it on the internet a few years before the pandemic. Not sure if newer articles are based on the same material I read.  Here's the basic theory I took away:

Since the brain is busy turning up the gain for frequencies the ears no longer hear, you can train your brain not to amplify your tinnitus frequency/frequencies by doctoring up music and listening to it.  I forgot how the doctoring was done in the method I read about, but IIRC it involved adjacent frequencies that could be detected by the ear.  I'll have to see if I saved links to that material.  But as I understood it from a psychology of music perspective, it was sort of related to masking, but where the adjacent frequencies (hence "notched") allowed the brain to not try so hard to make up for the one it couldn't detect.

I am missing the details and I might have some of this wrong, but it sounded credible to me.

At the time I was sitting in on some public lectures given locally by someone from IRCAM who turned me on to some other research regarding tinnitus.  I forgot the name of the principal investigator, but I recall another article that talked about at least one other systematic method of distraction that resulted in lowering the distraction of tinnitus. 

Nothing I read about used electro-shock therapy on the tongue (or any place else).

7 hours ago, Amberwolf said:

FWIW, if you don't want to change your whole screen zoom, etc., all the CHM help windows I've ever run across accept the CTRL+ and CTRL- to zoom in and out, though it still enlarges all the images too, at least it's only for that window. 

Works on info panel, not table of contents / index panel on my PC

On July 1, 2025, I did a quick test project using SD3.  I just booted it and F1 brought up the Help file. Are there any details I can supply to help sort this out?

I don't know if they have a demo / sampler pack for this collection of presets, but I would recommend checking it out if there is one (or other demo packs from this seller, if not) to see if his banks might meet your needs. 

Disclaimer: I have purchased Pigments banks from other sound designers after listening to demo packs.

JMO: We all have different musical tastes and musical needs and what I find useful might not be the same as anyone else.

36 minutes ago, Jon Paul Sapsford said:

20+ years using the same software creates some pretty strong muscle memory heh, but I'll see if I can get used  to some of the work-arounds you all have shared.

I know what you mean, I think. When "they" came up with the Add-a-Track Wizard, it felt overly complicated although it seemed to me the intent was to simplified it for younger people who seemed to be confused by "old school" methods.  But after a couple of years of getting used to the wizard, I see it as just another personal workflow tool.  Sometimes it's easier / convenient to add a synth with the new method; other times I allow my "muscle memory" just do it's magic.

I am very happy they didn't deprecate the older methods but instead just added to our set of tools.  

29 minutes ago, User 905133 said:

I assume that removing 1.2 from being scanned I might not be able to get what looks like a duplicate in the recently opened list. 

Confirmed.  Thanks for raising this issue; removing the Dimension Pro 1.2 has been on my to-do list for a little while.

FWIW; I renamed Dimension Pro64.dll Dimension Pro64.wasdll and did a rescan. 

37 minutes ago, David Baay said:

I can't get Sonar to show more than one instance of a synth in the Recent list. It may well be a bug in CbB that's been fixed.

I can, but I attribute that to user error.  Some time ago (past year or so) I installed Dim Pro 1.2 and Dim Pro 1.5 trying to see if one of them would work.  So, 1.2 kicks up an installation error and doesn't make a sound while 1.5 doesn't kick up a error and can play play a sound.  I assume that removing 1.2 from being scanned I might not be able to get what looks like a duplicate in the recently opened list. 

Does this help?

NOTE:  I have no experience with this issue.  I just looked up the error message online and one of the hits was to a post in the forum.  Just passing the information on. I defer to others who might know about this kind of issue,

59 minutes ago, kitekrazy1 said:

NOPE THEY DIDN'T FIX IT

Thanks for confirming that!

NOTE: (1) and (2) were written earlier, but not posted. (3) is new based on @David Baay's post.

(1) FWIW, I used to get double notes sometimes because I had my usb keyboard also hooked up to a standalone interface (5-pin DIN Connector). After several times seeing double in the staff view, I got myself in the habit of double checking the track input setting.  It only took a few times but now if I do forget, it only takes 1 reminder every so often.  I do a test recording of a phrase, look at the staff view and if I see double, the self-reminder kicks in.

(2) Not necessarily to problem solve your issue, moreover for the benefits of exploring alternate workflow, what steps do you use to get "insert new instrument" and "add new instrument?"  The main methods I have used have different wordings.  Not doubting you; I only use a few of the many methods and I want to run some personal workflow tests of the different methods.

9 hours ago, Jon Paul Sapsford said:

So, the issue is repeatable in that if I go to "insert new instrument" . . . 

If I select my midi keyboard as the input in the "add new instrument" dropdown . . .

I have also tried changing the input on the "add new instrument" dropdown to my midi keyboard, adding an instrument, deleting said instrument, verifying that the next instrument I go to add has my midi keyboard selected as the input, and then saving as my template, but when I open the template, the issue persists.

(3) @David Baay Thanks for adding the following post.  I did a quick check of 4 places in Cakewalk Next and didn't see an "add new instrument" dropdown .  

6 hours ago, David Baay said:

Are you maybe talking about the Bandlab web app? Or maybe CW Next?

In Sonar, the menu path is Insert > Soft Synth. After selecting an Instrument plugin, you get an Insert Soft Synth Options dialog.

Or you can right-click in Tracks pane and choose Insert instrument which gets you an Add Track dialog with the Instrument tab selected that has an Instrument pick list at the top and an Input pick list under that.

My favorite (at least for a little while--enough to send the link to friends and relatives) was "Bored, Tubby, Mild."  

1 hour ago, Wibbles said:

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On 7/8/2025 at 8:46 PM, kitekrazy1 said:

Your price should indeed be $44. This is a special case which is not
handled correctly by our website which we will correct shortly.

In the meantime, I can offer you the $44 pricing. Let me know if you
are interested and I will send you a Paypal invoice.  [emphasis added]

So, I stopping checking to see if the website had been updated a couple of weeks ago. Then today (8/8), I get a email notice of the Summer Sale emphasizing  a CV-3 25% upgrade discount offer.  But for me, it's still $49 to upgrade my CV-1 and CV-2 to CV-3, still $49 to upgrade my EP-4 to EP-5, and still $98 to upgrade both.

Since I already upgraded to the full professional series previously, I still don't get the the $44 Professional Series Offer (nor do I get it using any other of the upgrade / offer buttons.  Guess I should have written them a month ago.  Maybe they fixed the website and I missed it?  Oh well.