Will.

You might want to copy and paste your feedback on the discord platform in the link given above by Noel.

Where can we give proper feedback on next?

Next is out and in BETA mode and for the past 24hrs I have been testing and creating some tracks. So far i am liking the look and feel. What i am most impressed with it, is the fact that it handles live performances ten times better than CbB. I was jamming with it, did some DJ work with it and for two hours straight it held its own on major projects. That is a huge positive side to it - really impressed! It took me 5mins to figure out its workflow. I love the new Sampler and Xsampler features. Great new stock plugins. Everything is so straight forward, but there are some downsides,drawbacks,cons (what ever you want to call it) to some features that can be improved. Such as the Track Pane that is not Scalable. It crops the window/pane instead of resizing the plugins and effects on it to smaller. The height is perfect though. Also theirs NO console? Perhaps I have missed this one, but I couldnt find it. Arranger Pane is there for those who use it. I wont use it as a main DAW though, but for mobility use like writting demos or features when collaborating while travelling - for sure! For now i am still testing it out looking for features that might have a different names and taps. Heres what i can tell you upfront! Its gona pick up popularity with the EDM community! I already have gotten one other producer to try it out.

Its not the interface. Test it on a windows 10 pc. There could be some compatibility issues with OS11 and Motu Drivers | or try a 3.0 Bus Port.

Create a template with your desired settings and features.

I too experience this every now and then and i dont even have a graphics card installed. I run on the onboard graphics of an MSI MPG B550 board.

No-no-no! Pony must stay down. ?

Your words are not even cold yet. ?

I'm pitching this to Spielberg or Michael Bay. ? This sounds like a movie title. ET: After and Forever ? Transformers: After and Forever. ? Sounds more like a love story of the robots. I cant anymore! Oh! My poor stomach! ?? Is this the end for Cakewalk by Bandlab? What new adventures lies ahead for Sonar and Next? Its a love and hate user entanglement! Stay tuned for CbB: The After and Forever movie. ?? Out in cinemas worldwide. Let me go make some coffee! ?

That $499 is $499 ?

Im just gonna be the whistle blower here and dont care. The price will be $5 people - 5 Monopoly dollars in currency to be exact. ? Just came from the ATM. Make it rain.??

Lol. That means it is a CbB thing. ? My 1820i shows them as expected in two other daws I own, but shows totally different in CbB. Obviously it is easy to read and understand them if you're an old Cakewalk user. Plus, its easy to rename them in Cakewalk. So, i understand if it would be a little confusing to new members. I own the 1820i for little over 4 months now.

I know why. Because they wouldnt have had another forum to spy on for new ideas and features to steal. ????

First of all you guys are overthinking this way too much. Secondly: No one is driving me "bonkers." That makes it not an accurate mono insert. Not even close to what I was doing or saying. ??‍♂️ Okay, John. Do this (which is exactly what i am saying.) Insert a synth, go to the Track Tab in the TV, Select bounce to Track and Split the Channel Format to "Spilt to Mono." Delete the right track which was created, pan it back to center and do your with plugins too. You will find that no 3db will be added. That is how synth track should be handled under the hood. And yes, right now with how it works when toggling the interleave - the mono synth sits within a stereo track that is why the 3dB gets added. Pitty CbB will be discontinued though. I am looking forward to Sonar and next to test and try out though.

A stereo track is essentially two mono tracks/channels that are panned hard Left & Right on one track. So by removing either one of the channels you get a true mono track.

How is throwing away one channel of a mono synth in a stereo format track bad, when it give the channel a true mono insert? If i wanted a stereo synth, I would use a stereo synth - come on now. ?

Bingo!

We are not talking about stereo tracks. We're talking about MONO INSTRUMENT INSERT TRACKS that sits in (on) a stereo enviroment (track.) This is clearly demonstrated in the videos above - a mono insert with mono information that still gains a 3dB increase when you collapse the channels. Where a true mono track are being demonstrated in video 2 with no boost even when the channel formats are being collapsed to one mono interleave/track/strip.

Management said its not a beta ??‍♂️

You only have 6months available to use it with that activation. All previous versions are no longer being maintained. The latest version is kind of just taking a joy ride running on their new servers as mentioned. Sad news for the CbB product.

Yeah! This was a slap in the face. I still feel it, because its not what was said by other staff members, or in the EA release notes on the site. It kind of makes you negative to hear this- well, it stopped me from carrying on with what I was mixing and testing.

If you have information on both L&R channel even if the data on this track is "true MONO" collapsing this to a single channel format (Mono track) will add that 3db increase in gain. You do get mono synths. I have a few. Its because of them, i started noticing this issue in CbB. So, my workaround was always to get the melody first and split the channels to get a perfect unaltered true "Mono track" before I start mixing. So, whatever i throw on this tracks stays the same volume even if i toggle the interleave between mono and stereo, because theres no second channel to collapse to. This leaves the track in true mono format.

Current mono inserts with instrument interleave. Mono Insert.mp4 How CbB/Sonar should handle mono inserts with interleave. Mono Split.mp4 The second track in the video is the same track, but was split and bounced to two mono tracks with the right channel deleted and the left channel panned back to dead center. So what i was asking is, cant we let Sonar and Next handle its mono and stereo tracks separate from one another? Meaning: for them to split the channel format under the hood to create a mono track with only the left channel for both Audio and Instrument tracks. This leads to no increase in volume keeping this balanced. ? I hope presonus dont steal this idea first. ??‍♂️

The discussion of how instrument per track output handles its Mono inserts. Right now it collapse both channels to one mono track which adds that 3db gain in volume as oppose to just splitting the instrument track to create a dead balance volume with no gain increase on the track. Think of the Bounce To Track window where you can Split the channel format to you get both L&R channels when you press OK. So cant we have Sonar to split the instrument track insert of its stereo interleave to get a mono insert by splitting the channels under the hood and deleting the Right channel when creating the mono interleave.

So will this be carried over into Sonar? Cause it does eat up precious headroom.