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More "classic" Jesse, that's for sure! I don't know Jesse, I'm terrible with genres, I think odd meters play a role; or not. Like Frank said: "Hang your art here, there are plenty of critics who will tell you if its any good". probably not a verbatim quote, but you get the picture... Avant Garde on my brother! T

kloon's right, a bit more vocal, or pull the guitar down on the verse; its a bit "hot" in the left can. Or maybe center it and mid-side to clear the center for the vocal? Maybe an acoustic on the right side for balance? Nice balance in the chorus (and we all want to pump up the chorus), not so much in the verse. Might be fine on the speakers. Your song, your production. that or take this all with a grain of salt... Tom Someone's got to fix the BandLab app, listeners should not have to sign-up, log-in, etc. If I'm a casual listener or an industry guy that you've convinced to take a listen; I'm gone!! Like the 'burst in your avatar!

Great stuff as always Bat! Seems you're trippin' on the Iridium my brother...

I think the few times I've done this I saved the source as a .mid file (gotta strip most everything out of it), then opened that and created the "new" cwp. Obviously this won't work file to file, but I too would like to know how. Maybe its a copy "special"? Steve Cook will chime in and "enlighten" us; hopefully! @scook That'll get his attention ? Tom

How did I miss this on the first go round? Love the big cinematic sound stage. I agree on the guitar work, I'd bring it up a bit myself. The kick reminds me of how news shows would have the teletype in the bumper in and out. If your goal was "electronic" drums you've hit the mark and I retract my comment. I could easily see/hear this in a cirque de soleil performance. Tom

I think you "hit the mark" on subject matter here Freddy. I find the "center" a bit congested though. Is that a flute patch under the vocal? Maybe duplicate that, better yet change it up just enough so it sounds as if it was played twice. Hard pan left and right, do that eq trick where you "cut and boost" on one side then "boost and cut" the same freqs on the other. I'd hard pan the bg vocals as well, lot of "traffic" in the middle here on my cans... You are a storyteller, no doubt about it! Tom

Pushing these 12’s around is hard work! You must have listened pretty carefully. I comped those last two arpeggios, other than the fade in and out, and a bit of automation, I didn’t wrestle with the track a bunch. If I just put up the solo someone would dial 911 thinking I was gasping for breath. ? T

Many thanks to each of you, I've "tagged" each of your posts with a "thanks" (that is proper forum etiquette these days: right?). I will only quote Tom above "without a crapton of fret and fingernoise". That's not my fault, other than string choice; I am NOT a finesse player! As you can hear the "Flat Tops" do a good job of reducing string noise, however they don't last long, and are about double the cost. The "G" went south yesterday, "buzzing" the whole length of the fret board, at first I thought I had a little "back bow" and it was "fret buzz". But a quick trip to a local shop and all was well. (can you believe I didn't have a set of 12-53's in the house?) I really did only minimal automation on the solo track and just a bit of CA-2A on the busses for some "glue". I was really after trying to put that solo guitar in a "bigger" space, I think it doesn't sound like a "bedroom" recording. Again my sincerest thanks to one and all, I'll keep you up to date on my "quest". Tom just a note, there's a thread upstairs "how do I make my acoustic sound professional"; there's a link to this video How to Record and Mix Acoustic Guitar Some good stuff there...

Well done, there's some fine guitar playing there! Tom liked that ZP Bridge as well...

That's a wrap!! T

The guitar work is fine, you played to the song; that, after all, is our job. As too length, its not like you "endlessly noodled" on the guitar for 6 trips through a 12 bar; it took 6 minutes to tell your story. Dress up the drum track a bit and print it! Tom

I would drop a couple measures into the search function in EZD2 or SD3. Not being "flippant" here, I never bonded with AD2. Pull everything out of the cwp: except the drum midi. Export an mp3 2-track mix, leave a marker at the "start" point for the imported audio. I'm no "great shakes" on the acoustic, check the tune I have up, so I won't promise anything; but I'll have a run at it. I'll throw the midi at EZD2 and see what we get... email the cwp and mp3. add @aol.com to my screen name. Tom

Neumann TLM-102 comes to mind, $699 street; might be able to score one at 10 to 15% off if you play Sweetwater off Musiciansfriend a bit. Or check Reverb.com... Tom

Thank you both for the listen and your kind words. Maybe a case of "more me" by the mix engineer? Mark, this is a stereo recording, but I did have to "balance" the two signals, maybe still a bit stronger on the right. I just threw that "Massive" preset on verb buss, I have lots (too many) of verbs... Tom

Sense of Space This is an exercise in finding the "sweet spot" for recording acoustic guitars in my studio. Like most here I'm working in a small space. I'm fortunate to have a dedicated Studio, but the "vocal booth" is about the size of a small bedroom. And with the walls full of 703, its tight! What I'm trying to do is get a real sense of space in the recording. This a simple composition, 3 guitars, bass, a little percussion. I've been "close" micing my acoustics, with additional gobos behind the mic (the secondary guitars were done this way). But, I much prefer ribbon mics, in a Blumlein Pair, and have moved out into the center of the room and ditched the gobos. This is how I have done it in the past when space permits. All comments, kind or not (I'm thick skinned!) will be much appreciated. Tom

That percussive "snap", its a wood block or maybe claves, yeah probably claves? To my ears its just a little too loud (just a tad; probably doesn't translate well into French, non?) Pull that fader down, but that's just "to my ears". The signal chain you have on the Master is probably just fine. At some point in every project I throw Ozone on the Master Buss and "master" in place so to speak. And notice the small "m" in the word "master"; I'm not a Mastering Engineer, most here are not! I'm also not a "first call" mix engineer who is sending mixes out to be professionally Mastered. Consequently I "small m" master my tracks "in place". I don't print a mix and then pull that 2-track into a new session to "Master" it. But to each his own! Your song, your production, its done when you feel its done. Tom

Hey Martin, Gave a good listen to both versions, I like them both. There was a time when low end was controlled by the stylus. Too much low end and the needle hopped out of the groove! I'm more interested in defining the kick (usually some top end boost to get the beater talking) and keeping the mud out of the kick and bass. But at my age, do I need my teeth rattling? So take my advise there with a grain of salt. I like the "snap", and I was wrong about the 2 & 4, its kind of on every other 4and; right? Still looking for those lyrics. My wife listens to the tune, the melody matters, the lyrics not so much. I've always listened to the story, number 1 because if I covered it, I had to sing it. Number 2, as a songwriter I'm always interested in how the story is told. Solo is your Les Paul, neck pickup, maybe the tone rolled off some? If I'm mixing this, I'd go with the edit+bass, pull that snap down just a tad (keep it subtle), master it up and declare victory! Tom

I just tried it and found I had to drag the clips one at a time to the destination track. As Martin said, hold the shift key to keep everything in time. Then I would "bounce to clip" so its all one clip. Tom

I bring my A-500 controller in via USB. I have a Roland HP-20 that comes in via the midi port 2 on the UFX. I still have a couple of outboard synth's, that rarely get used on midi port 1. As far as response time, when using soft-synth's, that's all down to the ASIO latency of the project. MIDI data on both USB and DIN are, as Robert said, instantaneous. HTH, Tom

Martin, I see you've already posted the new mix, I often wish OP's would leave the original mix available for comparison. The snap was intended to emphasize the 2 and 4; IIRC. Kind of like the percussive "scrape" that's a integral part of Hendrix's cover of Hey Joe, or the constant wood block in All Right Now. The "snap" was "loud" on the original acoustic mix. I don't think I found it distracting in the electric mix. I'm sorry I influenced your final decision. This is your song, your production. I will repeat my request for the lyrics though; With You is about as far as I've gotten. In French would be fine, perhaps preferred. Tom

Rex, I've held off commenting for awhile. It seems you take every suggestion/critique to heart and run off and change the whole tune. Gotta "commit", print it and move on. And remember "do as I say, not as I do"; commitment is hard... All kidding aside, another good tune! Tom

Moving right along Martin, sounding good. Yeah, I think so; it was really loud in the first mix. Maybe Martin will post the lyrics. Tom

Hey Jesse, As always I'm intrigued. Somebody wanted "structure", well there you are! Pull the vocal up a bit will ya, I'd like to catch all the lyrics. Ever a fan, Tom

Being a guitar player, of a certain age shall we say; I get the "time warp" thing!

Ok, genres are "hard" for me to pin down, so thank you for that. This is not in my "roundhouse", but I stayed with it to the end; so well done! Had to google "polymath", guess my "liberal" education is getting a bit "musty" 45 plus years on... Thumbs up on Power dat ***** as well. Maybe its the guitar that comes in at about 1:30? No, you had my attention from the very start; great groove. Among the Dark just popped up as I write this, I like this one too. Please don't take any of my remarks as "flippant" or "condescending", I'm just not a "genre" guy; its either good, or not... Tom ***** I was afraid of that, boy the software is touchy! Its a title for cris sakes!