Audio Engine drop outs - can anyone reproduce?

[Sal Sorice]

I'm still having audio engine dropouts when using Toontrack products (EZdrummer, Bass, Keys) as described in this thread:

The problem persists in the latest build of Sonar. Not sure if it's a Toontrack issue or a Sonar issue.

I've also noticed that if you load a new project template (mine or a stock one), the audio engine will stop if you just hit the spacebar. This did/does not occur in CbB,

Can anyone reproduce this? I'm wondering if there is an underlying issue with my installation that can be causing the dropouts.

[pwal³]

only toontrack products? 🤔

[Sal Sorice]

48 minutes ago, pwal³ said:

only toontrack products? 🤔

Those are the only ones I've noticed it on where it occurs regularly. Getting the dropout when opening a new, empty project and pressing spacebar is a new phenomenon.

[pwal³]

does yr "empty" prj template include any toontrack stuff?

[David Baay]

Track View > Options > Stop at Project End

[Sal Sorice]

2 hours ago, pwal³ said:

does yr "empty" prj template include any toontrack stuff?

Empty project has no Toontrack stuff. Also, just loading a stock template, pressing spacebar will kill audio engine.

28 minutes ago, David Baay said:

Track View > Options > Stop at Project End

David, not sure what you mean by this...

[David Baay]

There is an option at the bottom of the Options tab of the Track View submenu called 'Stop at Project End' that will cause the behavior described in a new, empty project where the 'End' is effectively at 1:01:000. If you disabled it, the transport will run in an empty project. I always leave it disabled.

Edited April 7 by David Baay

[Sal Sorice]

10 minutes ago, David Baay said:

There is an option at the bottom of the Options tab of the Track View submenu called 'Stop at Project End' that will cause the behavior described in a new, empty project where the 'End' is effectively at 1:01:000. If you disabled it, the transport will run in an empty project. I always leave it disabled.

Thanks David - that worked to prevent the drop out on an empty project. That quirk was just something I noticed, but I still have no idea why the audio engine craps out so often with the Toontrack products - or whether it's Toontrack or Cakewalk/Sonar that causes the issue. I'm tagging @Noel Borthwick and @msmcleod to see if they can offer any insight, or of there is anything I can test for them to try and figure out why the Toontrack dropouts happen so often/predictably. 

[Glenn Stanton]

i can reproduce the EZD 3 (3.0.6) issue - the audio engine drops if i drag the MIDI from a track, but does NOT drop if i drag from the browser. the EZB (1.1.8) - cannot reproduce issue - works either way.

note: this is a new completely blank project. EZD and ESB inserted in synth rack - one audio, one MIDI track per each. same MIDI content from track and browser.

Edited April 7 by Glenn Stanton

[Sal Sorice]

6 hours ago, Glenn Stanton said:

i can reproduce the EZD 3 (3.0.6) issue - the audio engine drops if i drag the MIDI from a track, but does NOT drop if i drag from the browser. the EZB (1.1.8) - cannot reproduce issue - works either way.

note: this is a new completely blank project. EZD and ESB inserted in synth rack - one audio, one MIDI track per each. same MIDI content from track and browser.

Thanks Glenn for testing. I'll do more testing tomorrow and post my findings.