SloHand Solo Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) If I have the toolbar minimized and hover over a module, the module is displayed under the TB item correctly, if the CW app is not in full-screen mode. Once CW is in full-screen, the modules are no longer displayed directly under the TB items. They are off to the side, and sometimes off the screen. Here, I'm hovering over the transport TB item with the app not full-screen. This is normal With the app in full-screen mode, hovering over the transport TB item incorrectly displays the module to the left of the transport TB. Edited November 15, 2023 by SloHand Solo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) Several years ago I had some issues with individual module settings I had and a collapsed toolbar. Ultimately, I decided to use a small, floating toolbar. Not sure if that will meet your needs, but I did want to acknowledge that there can be some anomalies and at the same time suggest a different space saving option. JMO: We can drive ourselves crazy trying all the combinations/permutations to get it "perfect." BTW, I just played around with a couple of the settings in F11/Full Screen Mode (which I never use), especially center and justify, and was able to configure my collapsed toolbar to have some of the modules auto-expand off centered and/or partially off the screen. Maybe Cakewalk Sonar won't have so many customizable toolbar settings to mess with, but if it does maybe the new system of graphics will be able to adjust for all of the possible display devices (and the drivers, monitor settings, etc.) Cakewalk users have (and will have in the future). Edited November 16, 2023 by User 905133 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloHand Solo Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 hours ago, User 905133 said: Several years ago I had some issues with individual the module settings I had and a collapsed toolbar. Ultimately, I decided to use a small, floating toolbar. Not sure if that will meet your needs, but I did want to acknowledge that there can be some anomalies and at the same time suggest a different space saving option. JMO: We can drive ourselves crazy trying all the combinations/permutations to get it "perfect." BTW, I just played around with a couple of the settings in F11/Full Screen Mode (which I never use), especially center and justify, and was able to configure my collapsed toolbar to have some of the modules auto-expand off centered and/or partially off the screen. Maybe Cakewalk Sonar won't have so many customizable toolbar settings to mess with, but if it does maybe the new system of graphics will be able to adjust for all of the possible display devices (and the drivers, monitor settings, etc.) Cakewalk users have (and will have in the future). Floating the toolbar works! Thx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloHand Solo Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 hours ago, User 905133 said: Several years ago I had some issues with individual module settings I had and a collapsed toolbar. Ultimately, I decided to use a small, floating toolbar. Not sure if that will meet your needs, but I did want to acknowledge that there can be some anomalies and at the same time suggest a different space saving option. JMO: We can drive ourselves crazy trying all the combinations/permutations to get it "perfect." BTW, I just played around with a couple of the settings in F11/Full Screen Mode (which I never use), especially center and justify, and was able to configure my collapsed toolbar to have some of the modules auto-expand off centered and/or partially off the screen. Maybe Cakewalk Sonar won't have so many customizable toolbar settings to mess with, but if it does maybe the new system of graphics will be able to adjust for all of the possible display devices (and the drivers, monitor settings, etc.) Cakewalk users have (and will have in the future). I'm a long-time programmer, and seeing stuff like this triggers my OCD, like when Spiderman's spidey-senses are going off, LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloHand Solo Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 3 hours ago, User 905133 said: Several years ago I had some issues with individual module settings I had and a collapsed toolbar. Ultimately, I decided to use a small, floating toolbar. Not sure if that will meet your needs, but I did want to acknowledge that there can be some anomalies and at the same time suggest a different space saving option. JMO: We can drive ourselves crazy trying all the combinations/permutations to get it "perfect." BTW, I just played around with a couple of the settings in F11/Full Screen Mode (which I never use), especially center and justify, and was able to configure my collapsed toolbar to have some of the modules auto-expand off centered and/or partially off the screen. Maybe Cakewalk Sonar won't have so many customizable toolbar settings to mess with, but if it does maybe the new system of graphics will be able to adjust for all of the possible display devices (and the drivers, monitor settings, etc.) Cakewalk users have (and will have in the future). I take that back, it actually made it worse with the floating toolbar, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 To clarify, I float an expanded control bar that has some maximized modules and some collapsed modules. What you show is a floating collapsed control bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Wouldn’t it just be easier to use the C shortcut? Open when needed close when not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, John Vere said: Wouldn’t it just be easier to use the C shortcut? Open when needed close when not. Not for me. I like the transport visible 100% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 54 minutes ago, User 905133 said: Not for me. I like the transport visible 100% of the time. Yes me too. But I was thinking the OP might not have been aware of the keyboard hide/show shortcut. Seems like this is why it's available. Need more vertical height, hit the C key. Need to get at a module, hit it again. It's just my habit of using those 5 magic keys to make the track view as big as possible. B gets rid of the browser, I gets rid of the inspector, D gets rid of the multidock ( if your on one screen) and C gets rid of the control bar. The 5th one is Shift B to get ride of the Bus pane. I've always meant to change it to a signal keystroke somehow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) I agree; I often use the other view toggle shortcuts. Very handy. BTW, one of the features of the short floating control bar I stumbled onto when I first set it up is efficient use of the mouse wheel to scroll through the collapsed modules (the ones with vertical names to save space) which open when the mouse cursor reaches it. Also, when the CB is in the upper half of the monitor (either 1 or 2), the collapsed modules self-expand downward. When the CB is in the lower half, they self-expand upward. C still works as a toggle if I need to see what's underneath, and I can always widen the CB whenever I want by grabbing either the left or right edge and sliding it. Not saying this would fit everyone's workflow. Just mentioning it as part of the flexible options we have with CbB's CB. Edited November 17, 2023 by User 905133 "wheel wheel" double word typo fixed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Stanton Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) i have custom workspaces which enable me to rapidly shift across overall settings (e.g. don't need a bunch of control bar stuff if mixing, vs recording) and depending on what i'm doing, then using the keystrokes (e.g. B, I) if i need to quickly view or hide something. the custom ones also prevent updates from overriding the changes i might have made in the "stock" workspaces... Edited November 17, 2023 by Glenn Stanton some additional info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I was adding my custom keyboard shortcuts to my new install last night and found the L key was unused by me. So that’s now the Buss pane. Once you do this you think, man why didn’t I do this 18 years ago. Z= open regional effect Melodyne X= Render regional effect V= Save N= Transpose L= Buss pane The Melodyne short cuts have saved me a zillion moves already. One hand over keyboard, one hand on the mouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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