Take Lanes & MIDI Record

[Peter C 16]

Haven't really used take lanes before, just used lots of tracks. However thought I'd try it out. Recording a MIDI drum track from an external keyboard doing different bits as different takes, e.g. bass drum first, hihat second, etc.  Using take lanes in just the one track, when I record the hihat I can't hear the bass drum during record. I've checked the correct preferences settings and there is no problem hearing the MIDI playback during record when bass drum is on one track and hi-hat is on another.  Am I missing something?

[Peter C 16]

Anyone?

It's doing this consistently.

[scook 2,487]

To hear previously recorded lanes, make sure recording mode is set to "Sound on Sound" in preferences or by holding down the record button to bring up the options menu,

[Peter C 16]

Yep, done that. 

[scook 2,487]

I typically don't use lanes in MIDI but tested before posting and it works for me.

• Added Superior Drummer to a new project as an instrument track with echo enabled, armed for recording
• Changed recording mode to Sound on Sound
• Recorded a kick
• Rewound the transport and recorded a snare...the kick was playing
• Rewound the transport and recording a tom...both the kick and snare were playing
• Opened up the take lanes and saw three takes lanes, one for each instrument.

[Peter C 16]

Thanks for checking that out. Suggests there's something not correct with my setup. More investigation.....

[Kurre 159]

26 minutes ago, scook said:

I typically don't use lanes in MIDI but tested before posting and it works for me.

• Added Superior Drummer to a new project as an instrument track with echo enabled, armed for recording.

That would be the "input echo" button, yes?

[scook 2,487]

yes, "input echo"

 

[Peter C 16]

Okay, followed scook's step-by-step - it works.

However.........

Open new project
Select MIDI track 10 with midi in/out enabled, echo on, sound-on-sound selected (my default option)
Record bass drum to track 10.
Expand track 10 to show take lane with bass drum.
Add new take lane. Set to record.
Bass drum isn't heard when recording hi-hat.
On playback both bass drum and hi-hat are heard.

The work-around  is to follow scook's process or just use separate tracks.

[David Baay 506]

9 hours ago, seadude said:

Add new take lane. Set to record.

It's arming the individual take lane that causes previous takes not to be heard. Arm the parent track.

[Peter C 16]

Yes, did that.

[David Baay 506]

So what’s the difference between your process and scook’s? Just that you’re creating lanes manually? Either way, it should be working so long as the lane isn’t armed individually.

[Peter C 16]

Well.....that got me thinking why is there a record button in the take lane?  David I did what you suggested but then my hi-hat recording after the bass drum just gets assigned to the bass drum take lane as well. If I hit the record button in the take lane the hi-hat is allocated there but that's when bass drum playback can't be heard.  I'm not really looking for a solution, just interested to know why it's doing this. I think it's easier for me to record to separate tracks and not use lanes.

 

[David Baay 506]

Do you have 'Create New Lanes on Overlap' enabled?  Even though you're manually creating your own new lane, you need to have this enabled to get CbB to use it.

[Peter C 16]

Yes, got that on in the record section of preferences. 

[Kurre 159]

General midi uses midi channel 10 for drums.

You are writing about midi track 10.

Maybe some mix up with that?

[Peter C 16]

I use midi channel 10 for drums from my external keyboard. My midi tracks in cakewalk are organised from 1 to 16 and track 10 is for channel 10 drums.