Sonar 7: Fading Midi clips

[Jules]

Can anyone inform me how, using a sonar 7 program, I can select a Midi instrument clip which I have recorded on a single track and fade the sound in and out. I have had no problems doing this with audio clips , but I have not yet worked this out for midi clips. I have tried to select the appropriate track and then use the process feature to select 'fading the track' (as recommended in my guide book) but it does not seem to work. All I can do is press 'select all' in the edit feature and then go to process and activate 'fading the track'.  Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thanks.

[abacab]

Since MIDI data itself does not contain any sound, it cannot be "faded" like an audio track. The basic MIDI data itself includes note on, note off, note velocity, and MIDI channel, plus optional MIDI continuous controller (CC) parameters.

The MIDI data must be played through a synth to produce sound. If you were to record that sound onto an audio track, then you could edit the resulting audio as desired. If you are working with a pre-recorded MIDI clip, then  you will need to learn to work with MIDI data to edit after the fact. It is also  possible to record a MIDI clip in real-time that includes some CC data sent from your MIDI controller, such as mod wheel, pitch bend, CC 7 or CC 11, etc.

You can edit the recorded data for the  MIDI note velocity in the piano roll view. This will affect how relatively loud the instrument assigned to that track will play each note. There are also MIDI continuous controllers (CC) that can be recorded during a performance, and edited afterwards.

CC number and Description, partial list below, full list at this link: http://www.nortonmusic.com/midi_cc.html

CC 7 Volume (MSB)

Note: CC7 and 11 both adjust the volume. Use cc7 as you would the control on the amplifier - set it and leave it at the beginning of the MIDI track

CC 11 Expression (MSB)

Note: CC7 and 11 both adjust the volume. Use cc11 for volume changes during the track (crescendo, diminuendo, swells, etc.)

Also, it is possible to  convert MIDI controllers to automation envelopes in MIDI tracks, and edit them as you would audio automation. But I don't recall what version of Sonar  began supporting this.

Since you are still using Sonar 7, are you aware that you can download and use the latest Cakewalk by Bandlab 2019 for free? It is an updated and fully supported version of the DAW formerly known as Sonar Platinum. https://www.bandlab.com/products/cakewalk

Sonar's MIDI Track Pane

https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/sonars-midi-track-pane

 

 

 

Edited July 7, 2019 by abacab

[martsave martin s]

you can also freeze the track then apply fade- in fade-out

[Jules]

Thanks for the information. Very useful.

[Starship Krupa]

On 7/7/2019 at 11:09 AM, Jules said:

Can anyone inform me how, using a sonar 7 program

The real question at this point, considering that you can get Cakewalk for free, is why, using a Sonar 7 program?

[Byron Dickens]

7????!!!!

[abacab]

55 minutes ago, Starship Krupa said:

The real question at this point, considering that you can get Cakewalk for free, is why, using a Sonar 7 program?

That version is at least 12 years old. I assumed he was running a really old computer. Just in case the OP isn't, I provided a download link earlier  for Cakewalk by BandLab.

Flashback!

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/cakewalk-sonar-7

Quote

How can you improve a MIDI + Audio sequencer that’s already as comprehensive as Sonar? Cakewalk have added some impressive new plug-ins, but they’ve also gone back to basics to take MIDI editing to new levels of flexibility.

 

 

Edited July 9, 2019 by abacab