2021.06 Feedback

[Noel Borthwick]

Awesome glad you are up and running.

[Ronny.G]

Thanks! also for pitch wheel MIDI CC conversion and track templates input/output fixes. They were my bugs reports? so many thanks for these two along with other improvements and fixes of the release.

However, I still have a problem with fixed track templates and the new port naming. The problem its a bit weird. I have spent the last two days trying to isolate it in a reproducible manner, but it's not so easy because it seems to be dependent on the PC where CbB is installed (and not reproducible in VMs).Very strange and really I don't even understand how this could be possible, but seems so. It doesn't depend on Windows configurations, drivers installed, devices or CbB options...but the PC. I have done a lot of tests with clean hard disk bare metal images, VMs and so on excluding pretty much all. It's a bit complicated to explain all the tests I have done, so before writing a "book"? for explain all and even to keep things simple...I would like to gently ask, if you have some spare time, if you could do a simple test for check this, so I could better understand if others have this strange error too.

The error appears when a track template with vst multi-out is inserted in a project (kontakt or some drums VST are good examples).
However I have isolated a situation in which is visible (at least for me it is) and that should be reproducible by all, without additional VSTs (all is already included in CbB) and only in some seconds of time.

Try this on new project:
Insert from Track Templates-Soft Synth Track Templates - Session Drummer3-LinnDrumm Tight and warm
(in case it's not installed it's normal that gives you a " missing plug-in" error, ignore it and go on (ok), it doesn't matter for this test)
It should load:
SD3 MIDI track
input Session Drummer3 (but the first couple of ports named only "primary") 1 + 2 kick
input Session Drummer3 3+4 Snare
input Session Drummer3 5+6 HiHat
input Session Drummer3 7+8 Toms
input Session Drummer3 9+10 Overheads

ALL OK!

Now on a new project try this:
Insert the Instrument TTS-1
then add also Insert from Track Templates-Soft Synth Track Templates-Session Drummer3-LinnDrumm Tight and warm
(again, in case it's not installed it's normal that gives you a " missing plug-in error, ignore it and go on (ok), it deosn''t matter for this test)

It should load:
input 7 + 8 TTS-1 Kick (THIS is the ERROR!)
input Session Drummer3 (again the first couple of ports named only "primary") 1+2 Snare (the ports are moved by one position)
input Session Drummer3 3+4 HiHat (the ports are moved by one position)
input Session Drummer3 5+6 Toms (the ports are moved by one position)
input Session Drummer3 7+8 Overheads (the ports are moved by one position)

It happens also to you? You have to correct all the inputs stereo couples because by mistake it inserts the last one (in this example 7+8 of TTS1) of the VST instrument loaded first and then it moves all subsequent inputs stereo couples.

I upload also a small video of the problem. I hope it's clear.

 

Many thanks to all for your help!

Edited July 4, 2021 by Ronny.G
Finally inserted the small video, there had been some size problem

[TheSteven]

11 hours ago, msmcleod said:

@TheSteven - the XLN Audio errors are likely down to a Windows update. I get this from time to time (got it today in fact).

Just opening the XLN Online Installer and logging in to your account should solve it.

I'm not sure what the issue with Synthmaster One is - it's working fine on all my PC's.  Maybe try re-installing it.

RE: XLN errors - that was the first thing I checked.  Still getting the XLN errors with 2021.06 BUT they are benign i.e. registry entries for the VSTs still get created and plugin still work within Cakewalk.

Reinstalling Synthmaster One has fixed the Synthmaster related errors.
Possibly a Windows update broke it as I didn't previously have an issue with it.

Still getting TTSLogger errors here & there - seems to happen to the same group of plugins.

[Jürgen B]

On 7/2/2021 at 9:24 PM, Noel Borthwick said:

Hi @FrankP can you provide some more details about how you are updating? Are you running the updater from within cakewalk or using BandLab assistant?
It would be useful if you posted a screenshot. What is the exact path that its installing from?

Re the system vol this would definitely not be anything related to our update. Cakewalk doesn't control that.

Same here.

BandLab Assistend doesn't download anything. It shows "Downloading... (0/0)" making no progress.

Downloading from within Cakewalk works. After pressing "Install Now", a error message appears, telling me that the installer executable cannot be found. The displayed pathname is not correct, a special character in my user name (which is part of the download pathname) is corrupted.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Jürgen

[michheld]

52 minutes ago, Jürgen B. said:

Same here.

BandLab Assistend doesn't download anything. It shows "Downloading... (0/0)" making no progress.

Downloading from within Cakewalk works. After pressing "Install Now", a error message appears, telling me that the installer executable cannot be found. The displayed pathname is not correct, a special character in my user name (which is part of the download pathname) is corrupted.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Jürgen

Have you tried to setup the download path cakewalk folder as an exception in the windows defender setup? Maybe the download gets quarantined for its lack of a signature…

Viel Erfolg!

[Noel Borthwick]

2 hours ago, Jürgen B. said:

Same here.

BandLab Assistend doesn't download anything. It shows "Downloading... (0/0)" making no progress.

Downloading from within Cakewalk works. After pressing "Install Now", a error message appears, telling me that the installer executable cannot be found. The displayed pathname is not correct, a special character in my user name (which is part of the download pathname) is corrupted.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Jürgen

@Jürgen B. The issue is with Unicode characters in your user name. Well look into it and fix for next update. For now you can manually run the downloaded installer and that should get you going.

[Noel Borthwick]

@Milton Sica I’m not in what context you are quoting that message here. @Starship Krupa is saying that he requested the changes we made and validates that the changes are working well for him.

[Noel Borthwick]

3 hours ago, michheld said:

Have you tried to setup the download path cakewalk folder as an exception in the windows defender setup? Maybe the download gets quarantined for its lack of a signature…

Viel Erfolg!

No that isn’t the problem. We’re simply not dealing with a unicode characters in the user name somewhere. We’ll fix it.

[Jürgen B]

1 hour ago, Noel Borthwick said:

@Jürgen B. The issue is with Unicode characters in your user name. Well look into it and fix for next update. For now you can manually run the downloaded installer and that should get you going.

@Noel Borthwick Thank you! Manual installation worked. First I was confused because it is a guided installation (I expected a silent installation), but the installation worked smoothly. Everything seems to be ok now. Thanks again.

[Jürgen B]

Best improvement in this update: reorder multiple tracks simultaneously.

Thank you for implementing this small yet invaluable usability enhancement!

[Ronny.G]

@Milton Sica I have reported about a possible error and asked if others have the same error when performing the same operations. This is to confirm that there is actually a problem (since I can't fully isolate it considering that it occurs in a very strange way). A situation therefore completely different from what you quoted.

However a little ago I also added the video of the problem, which I had not been able to upload previously. Now it is clearer what is happening.

Thanks to all

 

Edited July 4, 2021 by Ronny.G

[Noel Borthwick]

@Ronny.G thanks for your report. We'll investigate it. Track names should not be getting those prefixes so that is likely the root issue here.

[jesse g]

Wow,  i didn't know my post was going to cause this affect. 

Sorry Noel.

 

Edited July 4, 2021 by jesse g

[Jaime Ramírez]

Until now the best vertion, stable and smooth of Sonar and Cakewalk. Thanks guys. 

[NokNod]

These latest updates have improved Cakewalk exponentially, Thanks !

[winkpain]

Great update as always!

Of note on the new Duplicate Clips as linked clips command:

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To duplicate the selected clip(s) as linked clips, press CTRL+SHIFT+D.

(or indeed on any new addition with a new default Key Binding)

If you have, as I did, a custom key binding already assigned to the new addition, the new one will not work, i.e.  your custom binding prevails.

I had CTRL+SHIFT+D assigned to something and had forgotten. When trying and trying to get the keystrokes to work with Duplicate as Linked, nothing (apparently) was happening. I had to go into Preferences to route out the double binding and remove it in order to get this new CTRL+SHIFT+D default to work.

I do wish there was some kind of protocol in place to deal with the multiple bindings issue.

[Art Munson]

Audio files not being saved to backup drive or another folder.

If you load in a project with a missing audio file, "skip" the missing file and do not delete the placeholder audio file, any further saves to that project file will not save ANY of the audio files (I had a reason to keep the placeholder). I noticed this when I was saving the project file to a backup drive. I don't know if this has always been a bug or surfaced in a recent update. I'm on 2021.06.050.

I have had Cakewalk/Sonar through all it's iterations going back many, many years and have never noticed this happening before.

[p-w-m]

On 7/3/2021 at 4:52 PM, Noel Borthwick said:

For anyone having issues downloading updates via BandLab assistant please try our new web installer that will ultimately replace BA for all installs.
Note: If you already have cakewalk installed you can update directly from within the application by choosing Help | Check for Updates

 

Hi Noel, I tried several times to update my 04.2021-version via the 'Check for Updates'. I always get this message: 'Connection error: Search for updates not successful. Please try again later.'

Of course I am online... Do you have any hint for me to manage this challenge? It's the first time I see this.

Thanks and best regards,

Peter

Edited July 6, 2021 by p-w-m

[Noel Borthwick]

5 hours ago, p-w-m said:

Hi Noel, I tried several times to update my 04.2021-version via the 'Check for Updates'. I always get this message: 'Connection error: Search for updates not successful. Please try again later.'

Of course I am online... Do you have any hint for me to manage this challenge? It's the first time I see this.

Thanks and best regards,

Peter

@p-w-m please post a screenshot there should be additional information in the message window that is useful for diagnosing these problems.

Never mind - since you are running 04 release you won't get the extra diagnostics. You are probably running into a problem that is already fixed in 06.
For now use the new web installer to install the latest update. Going forward it should work ok.

[Steve Harder]

I have an issue with editing long articulation names in 2021.06.  I have not reverted to prior versions to see when issue cropped up but I know when artic maps were initially introduced I had no problem double-clicking an artic name and then being able to see or scroll through a long string of characters while editing.  I now can only see or scroll through the left most characters and have to guess at what I've typed.

Above is a long artic name that I've entered while guessing.

Above is the edit window that only shows me the left most part of the long artic name.

This behavior occurs in any of my artic maps so do not think it is tied to a specific project.

Above is an entry from an artic map that I created in Jan 2021 ( don't know for sure what version of Cakewalk then).  I had no issues then but now cannot scroll in 2021.06.