Mark Morgon-Shaw

The guy at Scan Computers who does all the testing . A lot of folks on various forums can't get to a stable 5ghz O/C. Well I have neither Helix Native - or a need to run at 32 samples and I don't work at 96k so that's a particular use case which is pretty different to mine. 128 samples @ 48k is fine for me I guess if 96k is sort of thing you need from your DAW rig then you'd be to be be willing to pay the extra for it. Really ? Where I live the 3700x is about £280 and the 9900k is around £480 ...which is something like a $250 difference The 3900x seemed better value for the extra, I only spent £810 on the whole system. Personally I've never bought a dedicated DAW PC, I've always bought something off the shelf that does the job as it works out less than the specialist companies charge. Never really had an issue except for my i5 2500 which had a DPC latency spike which turned out to be a temp sensor that I had to disable in the BIOS. My use case is making tracks for music libraries for TV. Electronic stuff - 95% in the box. As I've said in the Ryzen thread, it's fast , quiet enough for me , no overclocking, stock cooler , p###es all over my previous PC even without tweaking anything. Have attached the spec / invoice and a screengrab of my mixer off the track I just finished today, it dealt with this mix perfectly well at 256 samples by the end

A new dance maybe ?

But outperformed by the 3900x which is cheaper

Wow , people still use those ?

Like CTRL-CLICK then DEL ? That could be useful. You could also use it to drag n drop multiple FX to other bins instead of one at a time

I've never found one that doesn't support that yet ?

It could be added to the right click menu in the FX bin. Underneath "Save FX Rack as FX Chain preset" could be something like "Clear FX Rack " I would like a Global Freeze to go with your Global Unfeeze, not especially to save CPU but when you are archiving projects it's the best insurance to have an older track come back the exact same as when you originally bounced it.

Yeah but it technically belongs to someone else now and I've signed a Schedule A for it. ] It's fine I do lots of music each month

I can't really as it's a piece that's been exclusively signed to a Library I work with but I can try it again on something else or find on older non-exclusive track.

Completely disagree with the OP In 20+ yrs of using Cakewalk in one form or another I think the ONLY bundled VST / VSTi plugin(s) that was worth my while was Z3TA+ and the 2nd version ....the rest was just bloatware to me. Tried briefly and then discarded. Personally when I want to find the best free plugins ( or paid ) for a particular task, l just Google it and see what options there are. I can't say I've ever used anything on your list because they don't really suit the way I work. Or I already have something similar that works for me. Whilst I've a ton of paid for stuff I've acquired over the years I'm not knocking the free stuff as some of it is great. I love OTT and ADSR Sample Manager and Zebralette But I don't particularly want or need anything off your list. Because it's your list. And I'm not you . And how I make music is not the same as how you make music. And why I write music and where it ends may be completely different to what you do with yours. I say let the Devs concentrate on the DAW. Keep in the installer lean and mean. And let the users find their own free or paid for stuff that fits the the music they make and how they work. It's a big world out there.

I've done some more testing, the gap/jump is very noticable at 128 samples. So then I froze every track of the 38 in the project and eventually bypassed all FX so I could try different sample buffer sizes. The only setting I found it to be anything approaching imperceivable on is a sample buffer of 16. Even at 32 samples it doesn't pay the kick drum properly that's at the start of any sections that are out of their original order. Obviously the CPU usage is too high to use it in this way , I'll try it on another project as I'm usually writing a couple of new ones each week.

I posted about my new budget 12 core Ryzen based system last month. All going well, it's powerful and runs with no DPC latency issues. It wasn't a purpose built DAW but a PC from an online system builder that based not far from me ( you know..just in case I need to call in ! ) You can check the DAWbench results on Scan audio, they are indeed kicking Intel's butt in the power / performance stakes at all price points for content creation It's the first AMD CPU I've ever had actually, and like @RobertWS says....you wouldn't know it unless you looked under the hood

Same here , I mentioned it in the thread about the update. New DAW PC with SSD's and a 12 core CPU so not lacking in power and generally can run at 128 sample buffer although can go down to 64 on some projects if need be. I didn't realise it was not meant to be smooth

Real drums that you recorded ? Or virtual drums played by a VST ? Or a drum loop sample ? Or separate drum loop samples that you've layered ? Or a mixture of all of those ? The answer depends on your project.

I used 8.5 until CBB came out so I wasn't imagining it then. It used to give me the option of Wavelab that I also had installed. I think I tried it once and never used it again so no loss

I must be going nuts I thought Cakewalk used to have this feature ?

Since forever. For production music / library work though it's SUPER handy to be so organised for bouncing stems and alt mixes

Thanks Klaus ! I am pretty sure you used to be able to change it using the mouse wheel previously but you have solved it. I am actually using a knob on my audio interface to control a lot of these things which works for many thing so it's a shame it won't work as expected here.

Yes it has been like this for years. It's bizarre as if you preview the loop from the Browser it will happily play in sync with the project if you tick the box. However if you drag it into the project it somehow 'forgets' and you have to change it manually in the Inspector loop settings and tell it what the original BPM of the sample was as it seems to 'assume' it was whatever the project tempo is. set to even if it's not. Unless it's a rex file. Then it works as expected iirc.

Here is a Gif on an empty project. latest CBB update. Win 10. And yes I am holding the Ctrl key whilst moving the input gain knob PS - It doesn't work on Tracks wither so it's not just a Buss issue. The only thing it WILL do is pop open all Pro Channels in the Console.

Thanks for this but it doesn't work here and I do not know why

I thought I was going a bit strange but now I understand the following 'fix' was implemented late last year. Hotfix Build 25.09.0.68 9-Oct-2019 "Quick grouping should be disabled if there is no track selection" So what about those of us who would use Quick Groups on their busses ? I thought I had forgotten how it worked ( old age ) but it's not me. I used to use it especially if my mix was getting too hot and I could trim all the input gains together, or gang together a bunch of similar busses .ie I may have 3 drum busses.

Help I cannot get this to work either, I thought I was just getting forgetful , I would most often use it if I wanted to trim the input gain on my busses if the mix was getting too hot. I don't seem to be able to make them do anything now unless I actually put them in a proper group. Quick Groups were so handy, why the change ? And how can I do what I used to be able to previously ?

I tried the Arranger just to test it out. So I marked out my sections. All well and good. When I tried an New Arrangement it started off okay but when I asked it to skip a section that was in my original track and told it to play the next one instead it didn't play smoothly, it kind of paused / glitched before it played it. I didn't really have time to mess as was on a deadline but wanted to know if anyone else had any similar issues ? Also several times when I have disabled or re-enabled all FX it has crashed. Sorry I haven't taken any screenshots, if if does it again I will.

No Firewire is faster but USB2 may well be fast enough depending what bit rate/sample depth etc you are using. I would certainly swap it over to USB and try it to eliminate whether or not it's a flaky FW driver Most audio interfaces are USB or Thunderbolt nowadays.