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Things like this John are what I was\am concerned about.

OK-Thanks folks.............Seems about the same from what I recall. appreciate the replies!

First, I already own a legal copy. I just remember back when it was first discussed - endorsements weren't too great! How about today? I am at win 10 Pro. Have been seems forever. No issues really. Thanks

Well I just thought it was weird that the dates were the same-NEW Sonar and the very last cwby BL BOTH 2024.02.........No biggie really.

As in the subscription, which is the only way. That is why it is weird. That is the LAST update-period! Wasn't implying anything bad on your part.

Just curious. As I stated-Why is the version he speaks of the SAME as the the LAST version of CWbyBL? That seems odd to me. No?

Isn't 24.02 CW by BL version? Not Sonar? CWby BL wouldn't have anything to do with the NEW Sonar install. Yikes! OK-Now I'm confused. ?

Well That is encouraging Tom but their is NO mention of the timing for ending CWBL. If that was posted , that would be good! Thanks for the link.

John- I hear what you are saying but I have NEVER heard a guarantee that Sonar will be SOLD, as in retail purchase before CWBL is ended. That is what I meant. I will believe the Sonar Release (NOT SUBSCRIPTION) when I see it! as stated- I am hoping that's how it works out.........

I wish\hope that Sonar has an OPTION to buy before CWbyBL is ended..............................I am trying to be optimistic!

TTS-1 is your best option for this-it has all the GM instruments. You definitely should have it. UNLESS you are talking about the NEW SONAR, it was removed!

Yes, just tons of transparency and so simple-Yeah right!

Trust me, I want CW\Sonar to survive and flourish-Honestly!

NOPE. Do you really believe the plan was not to have a viable product to SELL at some point? Of course it was. Also, nothing wrong with that-smart business! So in my opinion CW by BL has had over 4 years to come up with a sales plan. Also, I imagine NONE of the long time CW users like me (35 yrs) and many others didn't ask or care that it was free. I would have gladly paid for it. Just sayin!

I agree. How does the bigger fish to fry excuse the lack of transparency? It doesn't!

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Comment is about Bandlab, NOT you. Yes your post prompted the post "about Bandlab", hence the quote. A stated by others much too much coming soon ............... Nothing personal intended.

Guess they just haven't had enough time yet? Really?

Yes!

Well, I guess I can say no more. I'm done and I'll just wait and see if I will be using New Sonar or not. Will have to brush up on studio One and reaper. Although I am more familiar with Reaper. Feel like I am leaving an old friend, well I am. Wish it was different but I honestly believe they will stick with their subscription scheme and the hell with the rest of us 30+ years Cakewalk Users............ I was actually warned in another forum that I frequent years ago that this would happen. I argued for CW and said no way. They may have subscriptions but they also will sell it to us...........Guess they were right and I was wrong. ?

We all know we DO NOT OWN the software. That's been a thing, like forever. The development of Sonar is obviously pretty much done. Yes updates will be needed down the road. I get it's a bit more complicated than JUST a Subscription. Some how these other DAW companies miraculously manage to do it-offer both I mean-Or just sell!

I don't claim to be a big business guy, but I don't get the, backend issues and extra $$$ cost if you , say, sell a perpetual license and subscriptions. It has been stated a few times so far. So what are we talking here, the price of boxes and postage? So make it a download only. Serve cost. Accountants to track sales vs subscriptions? I think accounts can handle both, we are not talking Microsoft Corp.here. I still just do NOT see the logic in this decision. John V's post above and fine video shows that most daws and software companies SELL. Some subscribe and sell. Cool idea! FEW just subscribe. Just amazes me. Also, I mentioned this before, Yes it was great having CW free with updates. But I am pretty sure the $$$ I spent on CW and ALL upgrades since the early 90's (I always upgraded to the end) kind of balances it out. Oh well..........

So they both install to the original CW directory? Just checking. Thanks and sorry but I couldn't find the answer.

Thank You John!

Sorry if I missed this but: Can I install next and Sonar juts to take a look without enrolling? Thanks