Pathfinder

Hi Anyone familiar with these vocal mics? Reviews seem amazing. I am thinking of getting one for recording vocals in my home studio. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1765753-REG/lewitt_puretube_es_tube_microphone_with_1.html/overview Thanks Frank

Thanks as always folks. I did really jus want the fabfilter reverb-but the price for 3 (as mentioned above by me comp\EQ and reverb) is double so kind of 1 for free. Just as a note-You do NOT have to just use the AI featured with Izotope. Especially with the EQ and compressors. I most likely will do the fabfilter 3 bundle though. Maybe I can learn more and catch up to John V. with "standard processing tools"................?

I really only asked about Fabfilter since so many videos use them as the tools when explaining recording etc. I also did the trial of the Fabfilter reverb and I did like that. I understand the MAIN difference between the 2, AI versus do it yourself type process. I should have mentioned that I started with Izotope a very long time ago-whenever they started with Ozone I was in. So I have grown use to them. I will end this by saying I am just going to buy the 3 plug bundle and go from there. Thanks for chiming in everyone!

John That is an unfair assessment. My knowledge of the "standard processing tools", may not be as great as yours but I am not an idiot. I don't see Izotope RUINING my mixes. Your mileage obviously is different.

Found this article: Interesting! FabFilter vs. iZotope: Summary The most important distinction between FabFilter and iZotope lies in each company’s core philosophy. FabFilter strives to produce user-friendly workhorse plugins you can use all over your mix. The Pro range, for instance, covers a majority of mixing/mastering needs, including EQ, compression, limiting, multiband compression, and reverb. The Total Bundle is a fantastic all-around kit you can use on every one of your mixes. iZotope, on the other hand, is paving the way for future audio production technology. The forward-thinking pioneers are revolutionizing machine learning and how we can use it to make better quality mixes and masters as efficiently as possible. That said, the bulk of the plugins in Music Production Suite 4 are extremely specialized. You won’t find a Swiss army compressor with iZotope, for example. Instead, you’ll have a variety of ‘robot’ mixing and mastering assistants. In conclusion, I don’t believe there’s a valid FabFilter vs. iZotope debate in terms of one being the best. If you’re looking for a more all-around set of professional plugins, then FabFilter’s Total Bundle is an excellent choice. If you’re curious about intelligent plugins who can analyze your mix and improve it, iZotope is the way to go. FabFilter vs. iZotope: Why not both?

So I have owned most Izotope plugs for years-presently 10 advanced, Neutron 4 adv, Nectar 4 adv and RX advanced- plus others. I cruise youtube often to watch and listen to videos about recording. also have quite a few waves plugs and many others. So many videos feature Fabfilter Q, Fabfilter R 2 and Fabfilter compressor. I do have the Sweetwater card and get the bundle of these 3 for like $6 a month. Am I just wasting my $$$ or are they that good? I have no issues with the $6 a month as long as I am not just being redundant because of the Izotope stuff I have. I get it's a personal choice but just wondering if they have qualities that the others don't have. I can use all the help I can get. with recording.................. Thanks Thanks

Well, still don't have room for the 2nd monitor yet, although I do have the monitor itself-Samsung 27" 4K. It's not as big as my main monitor which is a new LG 32" 4k etc (still not huge I know). So CV was certainly different and I am not sure it is for me-way too many years with TV. But I am giving it a shot for mixing. With 2 monitors I think I would like having both-well I know I would. Going to try this week to figure a way to make room for both. I truly appreciate all the help and comments. You know the real old CW forums were really my first time living and learning on a forum. To this day if asked I would say that the CW forums and the Fractal Audio forums are the most helpful forums I have ever used. CWQ since the 90's and Fractal since 2009. ?

OK then-

follow- was the only way I saw to get the follow topic button again after I posted ?

So I am searching youtube for demos of folks mixing-I have watched a zillion-well almost a zillion. I bought some wave plugin when promotions were on, still are I think. so I have maybe15. I also have around 15 demos of theirs. I asked how do I remove he demos because they are not listed separately in Win10x64 and the waves Central portal thing has no way to do this. I was told that the portal has cleanup option and will remove ALL waves plugins? Then I have to re-install my paid for plugins. I am sorry but that is the lamest thing I have ever heard. I know I can exclude them in CW plug mgr, but so irritating. I bought these on a whim since I own many plugins including Ozone 10 advanced, Neutron 4 advanced and Nectar 4 advanced plus many others. Guess I am really posting to sort of vent at stupid system. BUT, here comes the dumb question, does uninstalling and reinstalling have any effect on my projects that use these plugins? If there is a chance of that then instead I will just exclude them in the cw plug mgr. Also wish someone would create a more robust plug in mgr=I remember someone did way back in Sonar I think. I would pay for one that let me really create what I wanted. I probably do not have near as many plugins as most folks but I do have 504 (that includes all the CW plugins) Thanks

I will see if I can make room for a second monitor-my graphics card and PC will definitely take it-Thanks to all

OK thanks. I am going to see how comfortable I feel mixing with console view- I do like recording in track view-so that's good!

Full disclosure-I have had and used CW Since before CWPA 9, so long time. BUT, big BUT, I never really recorded. I always was playing out in bands but also in duo's and trio's. I used CW for creating my own backing tracks. This is part of the reason I am lacking lots of little details. My question: Now I am ONLY recording- I have a zillion backing tracks saved. I ALWAYS used Track View exclusively. At this late stage (recording only) is it worth trying to switch to using the console view, like I am guessing most folks do for recording? good question for me I think and this is where to ask. Thanks so much folks Frank aka Pathfinder

OK. I sure hope I can ask this correctly. Watched a video and cannot find it now but also nothing was explained real well (for me anyway) Guy had all the expected band instruments (ALL) going to their own individual busses and and also a common bus (say, all instrument bus) so while working on, say, vocals he could (QUICKLY) change volume, eq, whatever of the instruments all at once and NOT effect the vocals. Am I making sense? I would like to be able to do that ( not just because of the vocals) but I don't see how without having to go to each instrument and mute the master send in each one at a time. I need the master active of course to work on the vocals (or would I also give the vocals another separate bus??????. There actually are a couple of reasons I would like to learn how to do this. The only thing I see is to have the special ALL instrument bus have a send to the master bus so when I get down to mastering the hole project the instruments will feed the master and I would then turn off (mute) the ALL instrument common bus. OK I am confusing myself now. Does this ring a bell for anyone? This may be a common "trick?" studios use I don't know. Bottom line: Does anyone else do this or is this something that is not worth the hassle? Of course I could just be crazy! Thanks

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I still have my Cakewalk Pro Audio 9 disk ? Plus all the Sonars

Thanks for the Good Luck but I pretty much know what I want and what I can afford-which may not be the same thing. All the tube LDC mics I have owned suited me fine-hence, I want another one and Warm Audio fits the bill for me- This thread has helped convince me of that-which is a good thing! Thanks for the good luck wish-we all need that! ?

My WA -87r2 is basically a wa-67 without the tube-according to Warm Audio!

The wa-251 is one of the mics I am looking at. That and the WA-47 and WA-CX12.

I had a Stellar CM5 LDC tube mic, which IMHO, was the same guy that runs warm audio but that's another story. Like an idiot, I sold it. But I have owned many mics. I am not sure what you consider budget, but for me, $1,000 is not a budget mic. I know for actual studios that is a budget mic. I am in a small spare bedroom at home. Also, I have found that LDC Tube mics suit my voice better that a non-tube. But like I said if I could afford a higher end non-tube mic I would get one. I think that's the difference for me. It's all about budget and for my $$$ and style, the warm Audio LCD tube mics in the $1k range are better "for me" than any non-tube mic under $1.5K. I appreciate your input always, here and in other threads. Thanks

I did search but didn't find threads to help my decision. I tend to like the warmth and sound of a Large Diaphragm Tube Condenser mic for MY vocals . Presently have a NON tube NEW WA87r2 but really want a tube mic. Was an impulse buy. Supposedly it is a warm audio WA-67 non tube version of the 67. I also like Warm audio mics but doesn't have to be. My budget for the mic is $1,000. I do have a warm audio wa12 mic pre also. *****************any suggestions would be appreciated---I do mean any, I open to all suggestions.....I was looking at the Warm Audio WA-47. Why do they make their mics so huge? The originals they model are NEVER as huge. -BTW, too late by 10 days, to return the WA87r2 and I am a VERY GOOD Sweetwater customer (have had platinum card forever) for 20 years. Kind of made me mad but it is what it is. Thanks as Always

That is pretty much what I have been doing most of my CW life (early90's) I always thought that was wrong, as stated above. So do you delete the 2 tracks or just delete the audio in the track? I must be doing something incorrectly. I also rename projects to where I end up with 7 or 8 with the date on the end as a reference. Another bad habit I imagine.

That's what I use to do, record, undo, etc. I really want to avoid the missing file stuff I use to come up with and 99% of the time it was a wav. file. Which could only be vocal or guitars because everything else I do is midi and not bounced until I am done with vocals nd guitars..........

Thanks- I remember doing (should say trying) this way back when, but never really learned it. I found 3 other videos, so I have 4 videos to learn from now! Thanks very much ?

I believe this is what got me into a mess before-not understanding of course. I would record a vocal and then undo recording. Repeating this process many times in the project. Guitars I normally get right the first time but still? What is the best practice if I want\need to do this until I am happy with the vocal? I will gladly watch\read any necessary video tutorials, etc. Need to know what to look for. sorry for the basic question again. Just trying to end my old bad habits and replace with the proper or most used approach. Thanks very much