Terry Kelley

Maybe someone can try this for me: 1. Take a large multi-track project (20 or more tracks if you have one. The more complicated the better.) 2. In Preferences/Project/Surround, select 5.1 Music/Alternative for the Surround Format and point the 6 outputs to your stereo hardware output. On mine I set - Left to ASIO 1 - Right to ASIO 2 - Left Surround to ASIO 1 - Right Surround to ASIO 2 - Center to ASIO 1 - LFE to ASIO 2 - Apply and close Preferences 3. Insert a Surround Buss and point any audio or simple instrument track to the Surround Buss (on mine I get Surround D, E, or G depending on how many busses you already have.) 4, Go to File, Export, Audio and set: Source Category -> Hardware output ( I have tried Entire Mix too but it selects both my Surround Main and ASIO Output and you can't deselect either but this doesn't change the outcome.) Select Surround Main buss in Source Hardware Select Multi-channel in Channel Format Set the Sample Rate to 48000 Set the Bit Depth to 24 Enter a file name (Test SS, or something) and click Export. Do you get the Extra Encoding Option Dialog? I don't. But if I start with a simple project with one or two tracks, the dialog appears. I'll send anyone a $1M that tries this. Once I get an extra million. Even when the dialog doesn't show up, Cakewalk still creates the mulit-track file (I've confirmed it by loading them back into Cakewalk) but some data is missing or the format is wrong. Terry

Does anyone know what makes the Extra Encoding Option dialog box show up? I have a single track file I'm working with and it shows up when I click on Export. With the same settings and export options, it won't show up on a multi-track file. This appears to be related to the issue of invalid export files. No dialog, no work.

I've been fighting to create some DVD-Audio 5.1 Surround mixes that will work. 1. I created a simple one track project, added an SS bus (Surround D), set the preferences to 5.1 music/alternative, point the single track to the Surround D bus, do some simple panning to move it around the circle and save the project. 2. I go to File, Export, Audio, set to Entire Mix, Multichannel, 48k/24bit. Export to a file. I set the Extra Encoding Option to 16 bit (Default) ... when this dialog shows up ... 3. Load it into DVDA-author. Do a burn, it works and creates an ISO. 4. Repeat step 2. The ISO create fails. Claims the audio is null and the bit depth is 0 and the file has 65535 channels (I assume it's rollover.) 5 Add a track to the project, and re-export. It works. 6. Repeat export with no changes. It fails. Repeated exports are creating different results with zero changes. Once file it good, it's always good so it's not DVDA-author being inconsistent. In addition, the Extra Encoding Option dialog doesn't always show up. What is going on ... Without a DVD-A burn program you can't really test it. I have tried CDBurnerXP and it complained on a bad file too. Edit: See below. The issue appears related to the number of tracks and the appearance (or lack of) the Extra Encoding Option Dialog

Check the task manager. 50% at idle doesn't mean it's Cakewalk. Might be anti-virus running fast because you ARE idle. Just a thought.

That would be cool. I need to read more about the differences between DX and VST. I like the Sonitus suite.

I admit that there are times where the mixdown to stereo *appears* to sound different than listening to the Cakewalk playback. But I also think it's a bit of psychology. I had a friend play both Cakewalk and a stereo mixdown and I couldn't identify which one was which. But there are days ...

Define excessive. I like lots of options but recognize we could get in a situation where things stop working and figuring it out is overwhelming. But I don't know what excessive is.

I really like the Sonitus reverb but it will go all goofy at times especially if you change a setting while playing. For DX plugins they otherwise work well.

No, just injecting some levity (tm). I'm the guy that posts a question asking where the Play button is. SCook and msmcleod always come through except for the beer part. Seriously, I took your comments as positive in that (I think) I asked a questions that others have pondered. Not sure why the thumbs down but maybe it was just a misunderstanding. Without faces, words only do half the job and with faces, words get overworked.

It's hard work being this stupid but someone has to do it.

Thanks guys. What I was missing is that I could use a synth output as an input to a audio track rather than needing a simple instrument or midi. In hindsight I had already done this but it escaped me.

It's just so crazy it worked!!!!!!! Thanks as always. And I noticed that all of the synth outputs available (if you did track per output or simple) are all there. Never noticed that before. Like a lot of things ...

I'm sure this is answered on the first page of the manual but ... Is there a way to add tracks to a soft synth outputs after inserting it as a Simple Instrument Track but switching it to multiple outputs? Scenario using EzDrummer: 1. Insert EzDrummer as a Simple Instrument Track. You get one track. 2. Go into the Mixer and change the Kick output from 1 to 2 . 3. How to I create a track that is now listening to that number 2 output? Right now I insert a new Ez Drummer with an Instrument Track per output and then copy over the patterns. Is there another way? I played with Insert Multiple Track using the Midi section but none appear to be pointed to the EzDrummers second output. Am I missing something?

Cakewalk for Windows white. ;0

I got the opportunity to hang out with Mike Pinder several times trying to help him solve a digital recording issue. We got to talking about the recording techniques of the Moody Blue, mixes, etc. On this topic he did say was that Hayward's guitar was often recorded at extreme volume levels to the point that being in the room with the amps was painful. But the sound was great!

And never mind again! What I would give for a truly white theme ...

Ah ha! See I tried finding Select in the shortcuts some time back and couldn't find it. I assumed it wasn't available. A quick look in Global and there it was. Thanks guys for helping. It saves a lot of motion. You can formally remove my demand.

Minor request. It would be nice to be able to filter the Event View directly from that window. Yeah, I know I can click on View->Select but it would be nice to have it directly on the Event View.

Yes, I'm seeing it too. If I try to run buffers under1024 I risk the audio engine generating tons of static noise just sitting idle. During playback it will dropout or generate the static like its a feedback loop. Nothing has changed in settings or Cakewalk as far as I know. Only the new Windows updates. No wifi, no conflicting audio devices, no mismatched audio bit/depth settings, no other programs running, no new plugins, no ASIO driver changes. The latency monitor says everything is fine but I haven't been able to run it while its generating the static. Sometimes it just stops. Rebooting doesn't fix it. At times it will be fine for an hour with smaller buffers and then go south. During record, I can still set the buffers to 64 and be OK with FX off. 32 will work if the project is simple with few effects. But playback now needs large buffers. I am certainly a VST hog and it could be Windows and that colliding now but it's worked for a long time. At this point I might play with some Cakewalk setting to see if it helps.

I don't believe Linux or any Unix clone has the libraries and controls readily available to just "recompile it."

Are you using Delete Special with the remove hole box checked?

Wow, I still have my 505 that I used with my Pad5. I should dig that stuff out. D110, S330, VP70 among other stuff.

So think of it as GM's drunk uncle.

In fact, MIDI 1.0 could do it.

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