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• Ability to remove the EQ module from the channel. - Why isn't Quad Curve EQ not a normal Plugin? There are many modern and better EQs on market.

Hi and Hello, even though I already know the negative answer, I'll ask again: Is there a way to transfer existing VST envelopes (preferably including remote assignments) in the Track or Clip Manager to another/new project ? Perhaps I've overlooked something... 🤓

This issue seems to have been !!resolved!! with the latest Sonar update! So what was the problem—mine? Sonar's? Or both? Who knows... 🫡

In the hierarchy of karma I am below you (Under-Stand) I'm just dust in the wind - just be careful not to get it in your eyes. Thx anyway for trying to help 💔

So, after completely uninstalling all Nvidia drivers (using DDU) and reinstalling some older drivers, I couldn't notice any difference from the crashes I had before. I have a complex startup project I created in CbB with maybe 8 soft synths, just as many EQs, some Audio Tracks, and a few Plugins. Then I got the idea to recreate this project from scratch in Sonar—and ta-taah!—it seems to be working without a hitch. Everything is exactly the same as in the CbB project, but this time it's set up in Sonar...? I don't understand any of this! Should I recreate all of my CbB projects in Sonar? Ha haaahh, no way!!🥶 I'll record a YouTube clip to demonstrate the scenario. Then you'll all be able to see that *cwp is stable in CbB but crashes in Sonar. What does this have to do with the Nvidia drivers or my RAM?

Windows Event Viewer: +System -Provider [ Name]Application Error [ Guid]{a0e9b465-b939-57d7-b27d-95d8e925ff57} EventID1000 Version0 Level2 Task100 Opcode0 Keywords0x8000000000000000 -TimeCreated [ SystemTime]2025-05-02T01:30:18.8375494Z EventRecordID35843 Correlation -Execution [ ProcessID]61804 [ ThreadID]80572 ChannelApplication ComputerHP-Saturn-PC -Security [ UserID]S-1-5-21-3576801572-1197287183-2583722495-1002 -EventData AppNameSonar.exe AppVersion31.2.0.77 AppTimeStamp67d8254f ModuleNameCOMCTL32.dll ModuleVersion6.10.26100.3624 ModuleTimeStamp737ecd9c ExceptionCodec0000409 FaultingOffset000000000003f9c8 ProcessId0x9f98 ProcessCreationTime0x1dbbb002d697d03 AppPathC:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Sonar\Sonar.exe ModulePathC:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\amd64_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.26100.3624_none_3e086962e3345f24\COMCTL32.dll IntegratorReportId2705159f-fa1d-49f8-bffc-ad4c88184b73 PackageFullName PackageRelativeAppId ### and a reference to: nvlddmkm, which probably has something to do with the graphics driver ###

Sonar simply blows off the screen. No error message. Occasionally, there's a crash message for Arturia "Spark2 (VST2)," but it's not permanent and usually resolves upon reloading. There are particular issues with SubLab (FAW), although one OP wrote that he has no problem with it. I have a simple project in Sonar with Sublab, and it doesn't cause any problems. The crashes are very often related to the Synthrack, regardless of whether it's docked or floating... Sometimes I just have to click on an instrument (VI) in Synthrack, and Sonar is off and running without a dump file. In projects with SubLab, I can no longer pause the transport bar and control Sonar. The Windows Task Manager doesn't display an error message for Sonar. Hm, in CbB no problem with the same project.

I have a number of projects that work well and smoothly in the free CbB, but constantly crash in the actual Sonar paid version. I also get the famous Cakewalk service, which tells me these are all just VST issues caused by the plugin manufacturers...

@IgoRr I don't think so. The Synthrack is practically the heart of Cakewalk. All the instruments are integrated there. This is where the show begins. It only looks like it's part of the browser. They added it there in 2016 (?). In fact, the Synthrack is more closely related to the Track Manager. Sonar tinkered with the Track Manager, and that's why there are now significant problems. I don't have any proof of this...

This way it works - thank you for inspiration

This clearly shows that there are two independent windows (maybe they belong together somehow) Synthrack Browser B.mp4

Synthrack Browser.mp4

Hello, are there any shortcuts for collapse, like "collapse synthrack"? In floating mode, I can hide and show synthrack using a shortcut - it doesn't seem to be possible when docked...? When synthrack is docked, I can only bring it out, but not collapse it again. (I could perhaps construct a command chain in Touch Portal like: open synthrack --> disable floating | enable floating --> close synthrack) Ahhh, as I just noticed, there's no "disable or unable floating" for synthrack in Shortcut Editor. There is for Console and PRV, though.

Here middle in the night with: Winkey+D Sonar Articulation.mp4

@Promidi Excuse me, but does this also happen in Sonar's floating window mode (when PRV is in floating mode)?

So, is it like mine (only rarely now), Windows 10/11 doesn't identify a program crash. If it's actually stuck, it says "Crash" or something like that... What about installing CbB and try whats happening? Are you sure "Asio4All" is not installed on your machine? "When a DAW crashes without a Windows error message, it's often due to plugin conflicts, outdated software, or system resource issues. A common culprit is a faulty plugin causing an "access violation" or other memory issues. Troubleshooting steps include updating software and drivers, testing plugins one by one, and checking system logs for clues. "

Have you tried a Save mode start in CbL or Sonar? I guess you are on Sonar? Save Mode start --> press shift while open the project and accept only one VST3 instrument. I haven't really figured out what's going on yet, but I've made some progress. I don't think it's impossible that there's a conflict between VST2 and VST3 plugins. (Hence the reference to the bypass in Synthrack.) Have you tried loading only VST3 plugins and excluding all VST2 plugins? SynthRack is unstable for me. Sometimes I just have to touch something with the MIDI controller and the DAW starts complaining. What's behind the Cakewalk? I can't read it—not even with Windows Magnifying Glass. Also, check out this option :

Hey Mauro -I wouldn't recommend that under any circumstances. There's surely a solution to the problem... It's so much work to reinstall, register, and log in all the plugins. Does Sonar only start "freezing" when you press the Start button? I've also been able to achieve positive results by using the "Bypass all synths" settings in SynthRack. But are you even getting to the point where you can access SynthRack? I've had projects that worked perfectly in CbB, but caused problems in Sonar. (here, Nvidea Quattro P2000)

Thx fot inspiration - this way it works for me, great! 😁 Sonar bring up browser notes at startup.mp4

This might sound like a joke...Have you ever tried pressing "show desktop" once or twice in the bottom right corner of the Windows taskbar? That gave me access to Sonar again and I didn't have to close it with the Task Manager.

Have you tried the "Show Desktop" function in the Windows taskbar (at the bottom right)? Just toggle it back and forth two or three times. That way, I was able to outsmart the Sonar hang sometimes and came back into the program without taskmanager shutdown.

Hello...? Is there a trick that will make Sonar open the project notes (Project Information --> Notes - Sonar Browser) at the same time as the project? Maybe I just don't know how. Why do I want that? Often, it's helpful to immediately receive certain information (warnings/special features) when opening a project that I didn't think about or had forgotten about...

Have you checked what the Windows Task Manager shows about Sonar? Is it a crash (which is displayed as such) or is the program there without an error message? I'm asking because I've experienced Sonar "hanging" in the past, but it wasn't reported as a crash in the Task Manager. That would definitely indicate graphics problems related to Sonar. This picture was made when Sonar hung, but there is no error reported by windows. When Sonar really crashes, you usually see an error message here as well.

As I mentioned in my post above, this one is not half as comfortable like the global- funktion in MenuBar. If you have 20 MIDI Tracks it takes about 20 secounds to turn them all on or off. For my workflow, it wouldn't be important to activate them all, only to deactivate them. I work with "no echo on when track is activated" ( --> preferences) and for large projects, it would be great if I didn't always have to check which echo is currently activated. It would be senceful if I could simply turn all echoes off using one-hit shortcut. Thats the reason why I'm asking for...