Jim Fogle

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@Base 57, I see in the main Cakewalk by BandLab forum section on page 4 of the feedback thread additional users have reported the same issue.

@Spectrum424 & @Base 57, What version of CbB are you using: the original 2019-09 or October 09 2019-09 hotfix?

@Jon L. Jacobi, Thanks for your follow up post. What do you think of @MusicMan11712 (aka Dr. Steve)'s suggestion of placing optional workflow operation preferences into lens settings? How do you envision the developers implementing the feature?

Erik, Nice idea. Consistency is always welcome!

@David Pilkington, If you don't mind, I'd like to know what website(s) you used for your downloads.

@Dare Rihter, I can understand your disappointment after reading all the issues you're experiencing. Sorry you're having so much trouble with the new update. However, Feedback Loop is the wrong section of the forum to post if you want help to get the program working as advertised. This (Feedback Loop) section is for users to suggest and discuss future features and enhancements May I suggest you repost in the Cakewalk by BandLab forum section. I'm posting a link to that section below. Also, while you provided your computer specifications you forgot to mention the operating system your computer uses. https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/forum/2-cakewalk-by-bandlab/

Here's the update release notes: https://www.izotope.com/en/products/downloads/ozone_standard/o-std-release-notes.html

@Jake Did you rework the audio? I just viewed the video again. In the video summary you mentioned your speech was slower and it seems to me that it is. Great video. You pack a lot of information into one eleven minute video. I'm looking forward to your next video.

Silly question but my immediate thought was, "What if you have an audio interface with 8, 16 or even more inputs?" This option would kind of put a kink into their workflow, wouldn't it?

More of the multitrack audio you hear originates from midi data than you might believe. In many cases the musicians play instruments that capture a performance in both midi data and audio. Having both the audio and midi performance gives the publishing company great flexibility. The publishing company can use the original audio or if tracks are needed in a different key or tempo generate new audio using the midi data and professional quality sound modules or plug-ins. Capturing performances in both audio and midi is the best of both worlds. The midi data can be collected after the fact if needed but in most cases there is no need because the data is collected up front.

Nigel Thank you for your comment. I'm aware of their stellar reputation. I've heard nothing but good about Purrfect Audio computers. Jim Roseberry has been very generous with his time and expertise in both this forum and the former Sonar forum. I've no doubt their service after the sale is excellent.

Have you submitted a support request? Maybe include a screen shot of the audio setting screens. Maybe force a mini dump (how to directions are in the mini dump link in my signature). These are the kind of issues that drive users batty. Even if the underlying cause is outside of Cakewalk's control and responsibility, the developers might find a more elegant way to handle the situation.

Steve, Thanks for getting me onto the right track. My computer operating system is 64 bit, Windows 7 Home. On this computer I first navigated to: C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Cakewalk Core. I found a folder shortcut labeled, "Cakewalk User Data". Clicking on the shortcut directed me to: C:\Users\Dell\AppData\Roaming\Cakewalk\Cakewalk Core. Hopefully this information will help another user in the future.

The trade-off is skill and knowledge versus consistent, successful outcomes. The best way to keep a beginner engaged is to have products that consistently deliver successful results. That's why products like ToonTrack's EZMix2 and Izotope's Neutron 3 are successful. They build in skill and knowledge by combining multiple effects into a signal chain that achieve labeled desirable outcomes. Users obtain pleasant sounding outcomes without spending years of apprenticeship with live sound or in a recording studio or time and money on a college level education. Many people just enjoy playing with sound as a hobby. and it's not a business or even a sideline. In my case I can guess , experiment and learn by chance how to achieve the sounds this effect can create or I can use the effect if I can find it.

@Max Arwood Nope! Not so far. Luckily I don't have a specific need at the moment, it's more just "buyer's regret" for not getting it when I saw it. As I remember the demonstration video was amazing. Of course demo videos normally are. The video started with continually repeating the thinnest sounding, wimpy, one measure kick drum loop you can imagine. Then the effect was enabled with the knob set at zero. As the loop repeated the knob was slowly raised and the sound slowly changed to the mightiest kick drum sound ever heard. Meanwhile the voice-over is stating how the effect signal chain has multiple effects embedded that work together in a cohesive manner to allow one knob control. I bookmark webpages I want to return to but the bookmark was lost when my browser crashed later on.

2019.09 updated documentation and online help include the following information statement: What is the default path to the user folder? What other content does the user folder contain? Is the user folder initially created by Cakewalk by BandLab or Windows? In other words is the user folder unique to CbB or is it something inherent in every installation of Windows?

@Robert Bone Thank you for the hyperlink. It's very timely for me as I'm just starting serious looking.

@slartabartfast, thank you for the hyperlinks. Both are great!

Wow, that will be nice. Unfortunately I no longer travel. Hopefully someone will post some phone video or something.

I agree Azlow 3's description fits the Analog Link and the Analog Link Mini. But the description doesn't work for the Digital Link or Digital Link Duo as they are converting analog signals into digital data. However the inclusion of cables with 1/8 inch TRRS connector implies it is primarily for use with hand held devices and not studio grade equipment. https://bandlabtechnologies.com/press/8686-full-family-of-bandlab-link-recording-interfaces-now-available https://store.bandlab.com/

2019 Band-in-a-Box for Mac is compatible with Mac OS version 10.15 (Catalina). PG Music has "just released" pricing until October 15, 2019. https://www.pgmusic.com/bbmac.htm

I've also looked at barebone tower packages as starting points but they don't seem to tell you who makes the motherboards or the motherboard model numbers. If someone knows of a barebone system that does provide motherboard information please provide a link. Another thought is refurbished or off lease computers. I've been looking through the Dell and Lenovo refurbished websites but haven't pulled the trigger. I REALLY appreciate all the advice and hope it continues to come in. There are a lot of different paths to consider.

@DeeringAmps I'm pretty good at trying to get maximum use out of a computer too. My former tower is a vintage 2001 Dell Inspirion 745 with a Celeron cpu, maxed out with 4 GB of DDR2 ram and two 1 TB hard drives running XP Home. I purchased it as a refurbished unit. I've had it long enough to replace the motherboard CMOS battery twice. I use it as a home network server for digital file storage, fax machine and scanner. I'm the fourth user of this Win 7 Dell laptop. My eldest step daughter bought it through the school bookstore to use at school. She passed it down to her sister who passed it down to my wife who passed it down to me. I've looked at the StudioCat offerings of Purrfect Audio, https://studiocat.com/opencart2/ , and pc desktops at Sweetwater, https://www.sweetwater.com/c859--PC_Desktops . Both offer great products and both are renown for providing absolutely top-level support. I'm not ignoring their products but the products prices don't thrill me.

@Tezza, A computer store with locations throughout North Carolina, Intrex Computers, sells white label (OEM) Windows 10 installation DVDs. They are also a good source for cases and power supplies as they will price match online prices. I plan on buying local as much as I can. The only issue is they will not special order. So for instance if I want a specific motherboard that they do not stock they will not order it even if I pay up front. For them it makes sense because they support everything they sell.