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Yes, that's one that does show up, but there were others, too. The ones I had in mind might be buried because of the proliferation of sites related to DAW-based PRV that weren't on the internet 10-12 years ago. Not sure I bookmarked the ones I looked at back then. Who knew they would become buried.

Congratulations on getting the changes to work on Channel 16 so the style changes work!

That's a failing score in my gradebook.

No need; I don't do anything with Python, but thanks for the offer. Moreover, I was expressing hope that you can successfully create an *.ins file that lets you use the midi commands to do style changes. It made the workflow easier for me with the Roland Intelligent Arrangers.

If you are talking about the SYN2GB and you want all the Multis, I didn't get them added to my products until I chose all of the "freebies." Since I already had Syntronik 2 Full, once I picked up the 11 new ones I really didn't need another set of licenses for the SYN2 versions of the "Classic" Syntronik Instruments--except to get the Multis. Disclosure: I did not learn this from IK Support; I learned this from the good people at the Cakewalk Forum. So, I don't know if IK subsequently changed their system, but if you are talking about the SYN2GB and you don't have the Multis listed under My Products but you do want them, you might want to select all the freebies.

I remember a previous discussion about this. As I mentioned my experience with style changes was with some Roland Intelligent modules. These were relatively easy to understand and implement compared to what I read in the PA600 manual. It was rewarding being able to embed midi commands to change styles and related controls. I hope you can master the PA600's controls.

A few years ago (maybe 12-15?) someone at a neighborhood yard sale was closing up shop, so I made an offer on the lot of piano rolls he had left just so he didn't have to cart them back into the house. Clearly, they are the antecedents to MIDI. Does anyone not know that? "Play notes X, Y and Z. Stop notes X, Y, and Z." BTW, there are some dedicated fans of piano rolls who have developed methods for converting them to MIDI. Fascinating stuff, if anyone is interested.** **UPDATE: HOLY CRAPPOLA!!! I haven't looked up "How to convert piano rolls to MIDI" in quite a while and the internet now seems to have become overrun with webpages about DAW-based piano rolls. It is hard to find the sites I had in mind. There used to be a number of excellent sites, including details on how people have built piano roll conversion hardware.

Based on information that comes up with the search for "Jonald Blip," I recommend that this thread be closed. Not saying that all threads from hit-and-run posters should be closed if they don't reply within an arbitrary, just this one based on all of the info that's "out there."

A very important person with a Ph.D. did a video on a live stream a day or two ago and made it quite clear that VST2 is dead (Experience Neutron 4 by iZotope with its Developer Dr. Cory Goldsmith).

Interesting. I didn't do new project in an older build yet. I did load the 22.06 EA basic project into last June's release and saved variants with different solo states. After that I began working on a bass + drum loop groove (in 21.06). I will add a few more single take layers and then try comping a track with a bunch of test takes. After saving that I will create some variant files with different takes soloed. I haven't ruled out that there might be something going on with my settings. Again thanks for the follow-up.

Thanks for taking a look and for your comments @David Baay. I didn't think to go back to earlier releases. Using variant saves of the basic test project I created with the EA Release (different *.cwp files with different takes soloed), I just found the same issues in Version 2021.06 (Build 057). I did not try creating a new project (and variant saves) with the same workflow steps yet.

Tried to find out more about CLAP and found others also use CLAP. I mean they use C-L-A-P as the name/acronym (as opposed to using CLAP the plug-in format): CLAP (Careworks Learning Apprenticeship Program), Command line parsing with clap, Rust Command Line Argument Parsing (A Better Way With Clap), etc. At least with VST people they embedded confusion that promoted their company when people didn't know what VST stood for (Virtual Steinberg Technology v. Virtual Studio Technology). And with F'em, that was an intentional in-your-face reference.

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Found a solution by changing the background color instead:

Sorry to hear, but thanks for the reply!!!!

Has anyone found which color element is used for the Workspaces Box's text?

I have been making extensive use of Workspaces for several years and never noticed the "Desktop Lamp" until now when I grabbed the dialog box and looked at it enlarged to 500%. So, thanks for mentioning the existence of that too-small-for-me-to-see icon.

I took the two issues I present here out of the EA release post in part because (1) they existed when I rolled back to 2022-02 (i.e,, they are not new to the ER release) and (2) they do not relate to the take lane splitting issue (the focus of the EA release changes). Unless I hear otherwise, I will assume what I am seeing and calling a "Last Take Priority" as related to soloed takes and the inability to view the just a single take lane's notes in the Staff View and Piano View have nothing to do with the splitting issue. That being said, thanks for the comments stemming from the "how it works" v. expectations distinction @Starship Krupa and thanks for the additional details about the forthcoming comp/looping enhancements and items for future consideration @msmcleod .

As I have said many times, different people have different workflows. Vive la différence!

Thanks. Its more like having decided not to use take lanes after first starting to use them several years ago (and liking them), I was optimistic with the solving of the splits issue in the current EA Release. So if it is user error, to me that's good!!! It means I can start to use take lanes again once I adjust my usage. There's always my old school method: Use individual midi tracks. That worked for years, but once I tried take lanes several years ago to test possible melodies out on top of a bass line, I liked them. There's also the possibility of duplicating the track, keeping the original with all the takes, deleting the takes one at a time in the duplicated track until there is one left and then editing the take that remains (via Staff View and/or Piano View). If it turns out these are genuine "quirks" that everyone has work arounds for, I already have a few others (such as copying the preferred take, pasting it into a new MIDI track, etc.). As for the solo state being ignored and the soloed take not sounding upon re-opening, its easy enough to just click the [ S ] button twice and re-solo it that way. That will take much less time that trying to figure out if its a Workspace issue. Clicking [ S ] twice would be an easy habit to get into. Thanks for the comments.

Background (from another thread): Background (edited from original post from 5/27/2022): Are these issues the result of user error and if so, what might I be doing wrong? Or, are these issues expected results based on how Take Lanes/Comping works? Update: Issues are still in the original basic test project. I will have to start fresh and try to replicate it keeping meticulous track of the steps. I forgot to mention explicitly, I am using 100% (with VSTs); no audio. New test variation tried: Split Instrument Track and watched as I soloed different take lanes. The MIDI data changes from the take lane soloed [selected?] gets placed in the Instrument Track's now separated MIDI Track. Not sure that is related to what I have described as "Last Take Priority." I need to do more testing.

Not that I have seen (and have been asking for). Historically, I have used the Input Echo Button (I used to call it the MIDI Echo Button) to turn a master keyboard on and off to various hardware sound modules. Never though of it as a Mute button--just a way to send (or not send) the master keyboard (sometimes several keyboards) to different gear. In combination, I used the per track record button to record the MIDI data from the keyboard(s). Just a personal workflow for layering lines on external gear to create music. In essence MIDI Echo = on to send the MIDI Data to a specific place/device; MIDI Echo = off to not send MIDI Data to a specific place/device. So, with 1 master keyboard, for example, and 64 MIDI Channels/Devices [or any number of sound modules x channels] the MIDI Echo Buttons in effect either enable or disable incoming data going to the designated external gear. Once a part was laid down, the recorded data would be sent to the intended device on the designated channel. In this workflow, the track mute buttons worked to prevent tracks that were recorded from being sent to specific hardware modules/channels they were assigned per the track control widgets. This is a workflow elaboration of what John said:

Sorry, I forgot to draw the connection. So here it is: Brigitte Bardot - Mambo Italiano = Dancer [posted by pwalpwal] Music : Mambo Italiano - Bette Midler - Sings Rosemary Clooney Songbook - 2003' I should have spelled that out in the "From A Distance" post when I wrote the following: We have been having TV commercials here for something (maybe a restaurant?) that sounds like Dean Martin singing Mambo Italiano.** I like Bette Midler's version better! Sorry I didn't spell that out earlier. Thanks for asking. **Just Googled it. Yup--the ear didn't lie--it IS Dean Martin's version. I won't post the link to the commercial, but you can find it as "Mambo Italiano | Made possible by Hosts | Airbnb." I was wrong--not a restaurant ad. No disrespect to Dean Martin intended. Its more that I am sick of the commercial, not his soothing voice.

I like Bette Midler's version better than the one I have been hearing in TV commercials. Here's another favorite popularized by the Divine Miss M.

February 1963"Hambone" [A-side by Red Saunders & His Orchestra with Dolores Hawkins & The Hambone Kids]"Rumble Mambo" [B-side by Link Wray & The Wraymen] OKeh 4-7166 Side B was my favorite of the two sides: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link_Wray