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I updated with no issue.

Not sure I agree with that either. How so?

Wow. Cool. Hopeful Waves will do the same thing.

Non concur. In my almost 30 years as an IT professional, I have yet to see one company move to exclusive subscriptions, then move back to offer perpetual licenses.

This is me exactly. I'm not really a Waves apologist, but I like the plugins, the price, and WUP doesn't really bother me. I've only "Wupped" one time, after having several versions of Waves over the past years. I've been able to get some great plugins and bundles at great prices by slowly upgrading bundles. We are only "assuming" they are going sub only - what we know for sure is that resellers will not be able to sell them anymore. Waves may continue to do so (and I hope they do). But, like others, if they go sub only, I will not subscribe. The only silver lining to me if they go sub only is that all those that have said "WUP is a subscription" will have to admit it wasn't. ?

Great, yet another chess game to show me how terrible a player I actually am.

Me too

What version of Native Access are you using?

This is what happens when take a day off!

Can you explain a bit what that means?

You are more correct - it benefits the consumers.

I like Waves as well and the WUP doesn't bother me. I live in the world of IT, where maintenance cost are a daily thing for me. My biggest issue with WUP is that they provide very little in return for what you pay. I've only ever paid WUP one time. @PavlovsCat has mentioned a few times that one thing that Waves has done is drive prices down across the industry, which benefits everyone. There are plenty of options out there for sure.

Is there a prize?

One of the requirements is a purchase.

You've never actually purchased anything.

Free stough

Congratulations BTW. Kontakt is one of the most used VSTs on the planet - its certainly my most used. Quite honestly, as an application is really stinks, but it really does open up a brand new world.

Any favorites? I've never really look at his instruments.

I love the Ethera series. Quite a bit of value there.

One of my most used keys on my StreamDeck is a multiaction button that opens all the the updaters I have installed on my DAW. Simple button that I run once a day to see what updates are available, and a huge timesaver. I had to remove the Output Portal as it never remembered my account, so I never really log into it to see what updates are available. However, I did run it today, and there are updates for Movement, Portal, and Thermal. Have no idea on how long they have been out there, but it may be worth checking to see if you have any updates. No Changelog that I could see on their site.

So you can sell the individuals?

+1 on extensive midi. Plus the best integration with actual hardware if you have any. When Sonar went under, I demoed Studio One and Cubase extensively before ultimately going with Cubase. Been with it since version 9. Cubase gets quite a bit of hate, mostly related to Steinberg, the licensing, and the GUI. Some of it is well deserved. Moving off of the dongle has been really nice, and getting a couple of instances per license has been great. My key needs were related to hardware synths and Midi - from my perspective, Cubase is unmatched in those areas. If I didn't have those specific needs, I may have gone with Studio One. I've flirted with it on occasion since, but I ended up getting FL Studio as a secondary DAW (i.e. something to waste time with). I'm dealing more and more with orchestral libraries, and some things like per note expression are amazing in Cubase. Thanks to a random post by @abacab a few months ago, I got a great deal on Dorico as well. I'll definitely upgrade that to the full version during their next sale. So much better than Notion, and the integration with Cubase, though not perfect, is really nice.

Hope springs eternal.... I don't want to to derail the Waves hating, but I do wonder how many hobbyists vs pros would rather see Waves ditch WUP and level all plugins at $100, or keep doing business as is. If so, how long do they support a $100 plugin. The data on that study would be fascinating.

Doh!