Noel Borthwick

Technically they are external to the application since they are plugins. We may get around to refreshing their UI at some point.

Both the now cursor and playback meter responsiveness has been greatly optimized for the next update. Look for it in the next drop. Not only is it smoother, but it is adaptive and will efficiently self throttle to create more UI bandwidth when needed. Here is a size by side video comparison showing cbb vs Sonar just playing an empty project. Cbb is on the left. You should be able to see how much smoother Sonar's updates are. I recorded it at 60fps so hopefully it should be easy to see. I recommend downloading the video since it may be jittery over the google photos web viewer. (press shift-D after you click on the video to save it) https://photos.app.goo.gl/282wMfqgqTAtTCiZ7

Exactly. This is a driver issue where a change in sample rate results in the driver broadcasting a disconnect notification to Windows. Probably because they unload and reload the driver.

@SirWillyDS12 I fixed an issue relating to this recently. We'll be releasing a new build next week. Please try it and let me know if it still happens. I was unable to reproduce it here with the latest.

@SirWillyDS12 there is no change in this regard. If you don't see it in cbb you have the option to ” show audio/midi device change notifications" disabled in cbb that's all. It's in preferences, customization, display. The reason for the notification is the driver is telling windows that it was removed. Not something we can fix. Turn off the notification if it bothers you.

@Kevin Walsh what are you specifically referring to when you say UI lags behind? Also can you share some info about your displays and windows settings for display resolution and scaling?

The spectral view was never available on track or bus strips in prior versions. It was only available in the fly out prochannel eq which meant you could only ever see it on a single track at a time. In Sonar you can have simultaneous tracks and buses all showing the spectrum in the console view. It's a completely new feature.

It's not a beta - it has been in ongoing internal beta for over a year. The feature set is complete now and the app is completely usable hence it's being offered for early access as part of the bandlab membership which is not free.

@sjoenswhat specifcally is “glitchy”? Perhaps you could submit a bug report from the help menu or include a video showing the problem you are encountering…

Right, you can't show a third party analyser on all tracks in the console.

The forum has absolutely nothing to do with in app sign in. The only thing common is that there is a web page Sign in provides a handshake with bandlab to get the user credentials per application. This is also required for activation. Similar to how you must sign in to access the online version of bandlab. It's not related at all. Additionally sign in for Web services relies on tokens that expire periodically for security reasons. Tokens are auto renewed when possible but there are situations where the sign in is necessary. The same happens in all applications that use this sort of protocol. Eg check your typical banking app that uses a web protocol.

Slows down? I've not seen anything like that. It opens pretty much instantly for me when the app starts. Which tab are you opening it with set to? If it defaults to the online library then of course it will take a second to populate but all other tabs are instant for me.

That is a gross understatement to say it's a change in look. While there was a lot of thought that went into the redesign both from our graphic artists and product management, the bulk of the work that went into sonar was a rearchitecture of the UI framework. This was necessary for future work and to support modern displays. It is also much more efficient. In fact in the next update you will visibly see that the time display and meters response is smoother. Besides the UI there are tons of changes beneath the hood of the app as well as hundreds of bug fixes over a period of a year and a half that we don't list. If you find nothing of interest that is obviously going to be a subjective opinion any one could have about any software update. It depends on ones use and workflow for the app. There is no way we can could ever satisfy all users likes and needs. Also this isn't the end of the feature set. There is more coming this year.

Keep an eye on it. I run with a mixed config 2K display and 1080P and have never seen the quick start show up like that so far.

If you want to start using Sonar right away, backstage pass (which includes both Sonar, Next as well as other bandlab perks) is the only available option right now. There are plans for other purchase options but there isn't a known timeline just yet. Today you can get it monthly or get an annual BSP license upfront which is cheaper.

An in app sampler is planned soon. It will be similar to whats in Cakewalk Next (XSampler) so you can check it out there.

It would appear that there may be some issue with your actual bandlab account. When you requested offline activation did you enter exactly the same user name as the one you used when you signed in from within product center? If you PM me your account details I may be able to see whats going on.

Its always available as a download even if it has been installed. The green dot means its installed.

It shouldnt matter whether its installed from Cbb or from product center.

This is expected. It will only pick up products that have been installed using Product Center or one of the new installers since the old installers don't communicate with product center.

Your issue has been resolved in the latest update.

@flangad I sent you a PM. Please respond and we can follow up. Also please try the latest build we posted yesterday since there is a change to some tokens.

Did you try the solution to use Password based activation? What OS are you running? Set BLLoginFlow to 0 in the registry and retry sign in using your bandlab user id and password. If you are still stuck after trying that send me a message and I can try and troubleshoot it with you. If that doesn't work something more fundamental on your system is preventing sign in from working. Also try on a different PC if you have one since that may help you eliminate the problem.

Its still EA but barring any issues it will likely get publicly released tomorrow. There are quite a few fixes to app startup, offline activation and product center so give it a try. Additionally the login screen now shows a confirmation instead of going into BandLab.

@Ronny.G Was the offline activation process successful and are you actually running the latest EA version of Cbb on the offline machine? Please post a screenshot or video showing the issue. Edit: We think we know why you ran into this. Your version of Cbb has likely never been signed in ever. This was an unexpected workflow. Will look into it and see if we can handle this through product center. Offline use in apps like this takes a lot of extra handling to make it work properly.