Noel Borthwick

@Lynn Wilsonis this repeatable and is it with any project of yours? I don’t see this behavior. Quick start opens the project the same way as its done from the file menu. Are you by any chance opening items from a network drive? Also try saving a local test empty project and open that from quickstart to see if you see the same delay.

To add to this: I did some further investigation and there is absolutely nothing happening when the start screen is open on the projects tab that would result in a a wait cursor showing. Keep in mind that the cursor is global in Windows across ALL applications. If you are seeing a wait cursor that keeps showing up when the start screen is open then it is caused by some other background process on your system. For example on my PC if I have visual studio running it will periodically throw a wait cursor while it does some background processing. This cursor will pop up on over the current application and appear that the app is doing something when its not. Check task manager and shut down all background apps/web browsers etc if wait cursor's are bothering you.

You should not need to re-log in (unless you manually logged out). It is designed to automatically detect you are on the membership and auto activate without showing the membership page. If that is not happening and your membership is indeed active, then it's not working correctly. Please verify whether you had manually signed out because there should be no reason to re-sign in otherwise.

I just changed it to display the modified date and time like this. Hopefully this will avoid confusion.

Yes indeed see my edited reply.

The bracketed name is only shows when the file name differs from the project name. The bracketed text is the project name not the file name.

You are mistaken. The only time it connects is if the app isn't activated or you are accessing something from the online projects tab. The blue circle just means that it may be busy caching data to build the project list. You screen shows the membership page which means that your account isn't showing an active bandlab membership. That's expected. The default quick start shows recent projects because that is where most users will look first. It's also the fastest to load that list. When you select all if the user has hundreds of projects it could take a few seconds to populate which isn't a good user experience.

I'll look into this. Is this when it's showing recent projects or all projects. Please list the exact version of sonar you are using from the about box. I think I see where the confusion lies. It's listing the project duration in seconds not the modified time. It only shows the modified date currently not the time. I'll append the time to the modified date string to make it more clear.

Please don't mess with the location of internal plugins or it will cause unexpected bugs. That plug-in is supposed to installed to the shared utilities/internal folder alone and it will never be updated if you put it somewhere else. This is where pro channel modules also live. If you remove that folder all the prochannel modules will also stop working. That path is automatically included as a scan path when you install the app. >>I had to move the dll into the "rogram files/Cakewalk/ VST plugins . Where did you find the dll before you moved it?

No thats not enharmonically equivalent unlike CbB :-P

Try and isolate if a plugin is causing it. Remove plugins one by one and see if the problem goes away. Some plugin copy protection schemes do weird things with the file system.

This sounds a lot like whatever they are using for copy protection or some system process of theirs is file locking the project file. We had a similar issue a few years ago with Steinberg's Syncrosoft copy protection and I sent them a ton of information to show that their eLicenser was causing this problem due to the Synsopos.exe process. This is something that AudioMovers would need to debug on their end. The fact that inject feeder is locking the project file is the problem they need to solve.

This should be resolved in the next Sonar release.

That error message means that Cakewalk failed to load the plugin library at a system level. The only way that can happen is if something in plugin itself failed the LoadLibrary call. Most likely it could be a memory limitation where the plugin is relying on a global memory pool which is too small or some other static resource is my guess. This is not a Cakewalk specific problem.

I'm sorry to hear that you ran into this issue. I know you said that it corrected itself but if you can get a repro please send us the project files.

This is definitely the problem. If it's taking long to Open the files listed (to show project metadata) then it will slow down the load. There is no direct way to clear the list today other than temporarily hiding the files and opening the app. That would flush the list if they are missing.

I understand that users want to get definitive answers on final pricing and purchase options, but please don’t read too much into this,. As mentioned earlier, BSP was the quickest way we could make it the software available to users while all the other moving parts are sorted out for an official release. The wait to final releasse was completely expected to be a few months. BandLab is a big company and Its not just engineering - management, marketing, back end, social, support, all of those have to be coordinated to make it happen. Our team would obviously like this to happen sooner than later and we’ve done our part to communicate whats needed within the org. If you need it now go ahead and use BSP, or wait for the final announcements on purchase options. Its pretty simple.

Which tab of the start screen is it defaulting to for you? Also where are you located? If it's taking long to show the data on the online projects or demo projects page it's likely because of Internet delays in accessing the data. Also can you switch to a different tab while it's waiting?

My dev PC was bought from @Jim Roseberry at Studiocat.com These were the specs: I9 Platinum Studio: Silent Mid Tower Case 1000w Ultra Quiet Power-Supply I9-10980xe (18 cores, 36 processing threads, 4.8GHz max turbo frequency) X299 Chipset Motherboard 64GB DDR4 1TB SSD (OS/Applications) GT-710 video Windows 11 Pro However, the UI smoothness can be seen on pretty much any PC. Its smoother even on my surface book 2.

Yes it is a lot more efficient for drawing the UI, which is visible in the responsiveness of meters and now time scroll smoothness. I posted a video some weeks ago with Sonar and CbB demonstrating this. There have been numerous optimizations to the UI to improve performance.

Yes there are plans to have purchase options outside of backstage pass which was intended to be the quickest way to get it right now. When details of it are known it will be announced.

Talking about promos, bandlab has 30% off membership including backstage pass that includes both Sonar and Next for 104.99 for the first year. It doesn't get any better than that for pricing.

Nice. Yes this notification is now masked during app startup. What happens is when the sample rate changes some ASIO drivers request a driver reload leading to that spurious notification.

We’re looking into other package options. Anything like that involves back end, and has a lot of other moving parts which is why there is a delay in information being made available.

It includes both Sonar and Next at no extra fee which is a great value if you do the math. Also included are all the standard BandLab membership perks like distribution promotion etc.