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The only other one I came across is the Zoom Livetrak L20. This is a digital mixer though, but metering is much better. The plus for the L20 is the 6 separate headphone mixes and the fact you can save/recall complete scenes. There's also the Soundcraft Signature 22 MTK, but there's no SD card recording on that one, and all recording captured pre EQ/Fader. I guess there's also the Tascam DP-24 / DP-32... but they're prosumer rather than pro devices, and limited to recording 8 tracks at a time. They also have a weird track layout making the DP-24 actually slightly better than the DP-32 if you're recording mono sources. In my studio I use an Allen and Heath Mix Wizard WZ3, connected to 2 x Fostex VC-8's via its 16 direct outs. Metering is pretty poor, but sound-wise it's excellent. It is rack mountable, but it's damn heavy, and obviously there's the hassle of looms, and the extra rack containing the VC-8 ADAT ADC's and audio interface.

Actually, I was gonna say... if I was to do it all again, I'd just go for a Tascam Model 2400. This gives me the choice of using a DAW or not, and also the option of committing EQ changes while recording (which the old Model 24 didn't do - hence my current setup).

You might want to consider a small 4 channel mixer with built-in effects for the vocalist: - vocal mic goes into the mixer - output to the DAW is either by the insert send, or an FX send on that channel. - backing track output from the DAW goes in to inputs 3 & 4. - vocalist plugs their headphones into the mixer The only downside is, you're then at the mercy of the quality of the mixer pre-amps... but I guess you could go directly into the audio interface, then take a direct out from the audio interface into the mixer. This should have zero latency, and the vocalist can play with the backing / vocal balance to their heart's content without ever affecting what you're recording. All of my JoeMeek/TFPro pre-amps have two line outs, so I've got a spare output on each one for that kind of thing.

The MeLE has both an internal SSD drive, and optionally an internal flash drive - it also has a micro SD socket for an additional storage. My 4C has a 256GB internal SSD (C drive), an internal 256GB flash drive (D drive), and a 512GB micro SD card inserted. It attaches to a VESA mount via a supplied bracket. I've gone one step further, and used a VESA extension plate as well so I can mount it to a VESA mount on the wall whilst still having the 4C attached (this is actually a 2C, but it's exactly the same size): It's worth mentioning that the 4C's case is also its heatsink - and it does get quite hot... not enough to burn you, but certainly as hot as a radiator. This is by design. Oh, and my recording tests were actually done to an external SSD connected via USB 3. Typically, I use it with this setup: All of the Joemeek/TFPro preamps go to into the VC-8, which is connected to the 18i8 via ADAT. The 18i8 has another 4 line inputs on the back, giving me a total of 16 inputs.

I think in the end, without knowing exactly what the mobile setup is meant to achieve, there's no real way of recommending anything. e.g. - are you just recording? Do you need to record through VST's (guitar sims etc)? Do you need to mix on it? What I do know is: Recording 16 simultaneous tracks even through a USB 2 interface uses very little RAM/CPU. I was recording 16 simultaneous tracks (24bit 48Khz) on a P166 with 256MB RAM on to E-IDE HDD's back in the 90's. As soon as you start adding VST's, you're going to need more CPU power. For 16 tracks using stock FX plugins, and maybe one or two lightweight VSTi's, anything over 2.6Ghz will probably cope without issue. A 3.4Ghz processor will definitely be fine. Any laptop will be noisy due to the fan. Mid to high gaming laptops do pretty well as DAW machines as they're pretty powerful, but the noise may be a real issue unless you're only using it for close-mic'd drums. For an acoustic guitar - forget it. Laptops may seem handy and portable due to their size, but really, a small fan-less PC connected to the back of a 19" or 23" monitor is nothing really compared to the golf-caddy size bags for your mic stands, and your boxes of mic-cables / mics / DI boxes etc. My 23" monitor with the PC attached at the back lies quite comfortably on top of the cables inside its plastic case.

You can delete the old cwp file without damaging the recovered one, however... the recovered cwp file will likely have less in it than the old one. Obviously if the old file is genuinely damaged or corrupted, then you've no choice but to use the the recovered one. However, if after sending the dump file to us, we find a genuine bug then subsequently fix it, you'd probably be able to open the old file without issue. So I'd recommend holding on to the original cwp file until you're sure there's no hope in opening it. Even if you abandon the old cwp file and continue working with the recovered one, being able to open the old file will serve as a verification that any fix is good.

@Pathfinder - There are a number of things that could cause Sonar to be slow / hang on shutdown: 1. Plugins with large sample libraries taking ages to unload their samples (Kontakt is known for this) 2. Plugins hanging during unload 3. Audio or MIDI Drivers hanging when attempting to close them 4. Anti-virus / Cloud sync software hijacking files Sonar is trying to write to 5. A bug within Sonar itself. if it happens again, please give it 10 minutes or so to check that it's not reason 1. If it's still not closed down, use these instructions to grab a dump file, upload it to a filesharing size (it'll be BIG), and PM the link to @Jonathan Sasor. This should enable us to isolate where it's hanging, which will help us find the cause.

The "There is not enough memory available" error in respect to MIDI devices almost always means another application has the MIDI device open. Please check that there are no other applications using the MIDI port. If another application has crashed, it may be it crashed without properly closing the MIDI port - if this is the case, reboot your PC.

Personally, I'd avoid laptops if you're worried about noise. Most decently powered laptops sound like jet-engines when the fan starts. The new ARM64 based laptops maybe an exception to this - but even now Sonar now runs on ARM64, your choice of audio interface may be limited until manufacturers catch up with ARM64 drivers. I've got a few mobile setups I've used over the years: 1. Dell Vostro 1700 (Intel Core 2 duo, Windows + Windows 7 32 bit + 4GB RAM), running SONAR Platinum 32 bit. Yamaha 01X / i88X / Behringer ADA8000 interfaces. No problems at all recording 24 tracks simultaneously. 2. MeLE quieter PC 2 (Intel J4125 4 core @ 2Ghz [turbo 2.7Ghz], 8GB RAM totally fan-less) - this is only slightly larger than a cassette tape, and has 2 x 4K HDMI + 4 x USB 3 ports. Running Windows 11 64 bit and CbB / Sonar. It's attached to the back of a 23" Samsung monitor. I've used this in two setups, recording 16 simultaneous tracks whilst playing back 32 tracks: (a) Scarlett 18i20 + Behringer ADA8200 (b) Scarlett 18i8 + Fostex VC8 with 6 x JoeMeek MQ3 / TFPro P3, and 1 x TFPro P4 preamps. My latest setup, which I'm yet to fully test is: MeLE Quieter PC 4C (Intel N100 4 core, max turbo 3.4Ghz, 16GB RAM - fanless, same form-factor as Quiter PC2) + Windows 11 64 bit, Sonar + RME DigiFace USB, 4 x Fostex VC8 connected to an Allen & Heath GL2400 32 track mixer. The 4C had zero problems with 16 tracks recording/playback - I'm yet to try it with 32 tracks recording. Running basic plugins on all tracks wasn't an issue with the 4C. FWIW, a 16GB Ram MeLE Quieter PC 4C is currently £199 on Amazon. https://www.amazon.co.uk/MeLE-J4125-Computer-Portable-Ethernet/dp/B09TKM8VGT/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?th=1

They're that way: 1. To ensure the folder hiding rules are respected (i.e. you can't have visible tracks inside a hidden folder, so all of them have to be hidden) 2. To allow you to easily unhide the folder without unhiding the tracks - bearing in mind you may not want to unhide all of the tracks in all nested folders. 3. To provide a quick way of unhiding all hidden tracks within a folder, when the folder itself is not hidden and may have a mixture of hidden / unhidden tracks. As to why you'd unhide a folder and not unhide the tracks inside... that's very much tied to a specific workflow. You may choose to group audio tracks/midi tracks/aux tracks associated with a single instrument together, but choose to hide some of them (e.g. the audio track, or the aux track) to make the track view less busy. I'd argue as to why hide the folder and all its tracks when you can just collapse the folder?

On the subject of tinitus... I had it for 2 or 3 years. During the day it didn't bother me too much, but getting to sleep was a nightmare. I was getting only 3-4 hours sleep during that time. I started using one of these twice a day, and it completely cleared it up: My theory was that as we get older, you get more hair in your ears and they're liable to pick up more sweat/oil/wax. These pretty much remove that. Obviously YMMV, but if the cause was the same as mine, this may well help tremendously - and it'll cost you less than $10 a year.

I'm not seeing a problem with dragging either the velocity hotspot on the upper edge of the note in the notes pane or the velocity 'tail' in the controllers pane or Shift+dragging notes around to constrain pitch or time. I have to think something is going on with your mouse/driver. If you're using a wireless mouse maybe change/charge the battery. Do you still have CbB installed and it's working normally? That would be my conclusion too. Certainly some custom mouse drivers can cause issues in Sonar - reverting to the standard Microsoft driver usually fixes things.

Here were my findings: - Double clicking on the project in windows explorer, launches Sonar and causes the crash - Opening Sonar first, then opening the project didn't cause a crash. However, it looks like the bug that caused the original crash has been fixed, so the next update of Sonar should fix this for you. In the meantime just open Sonar first, then load the project. @audinf [EDIT] - Just realised, my initial test where it crashed was on a slightly earlier development build. I'm not able to reproduce the hang you're seeing on build 14, although it did take some time to load due to Kontakt taking forever in attempting to load libraries. Can you capture a dump file when it's in its hung state, and send it to @Jonathan Sasor ?

The other thing to check is the USB port you have your audio interface plugged into, and also the cable. If the USB port is sharing resources with other devices (e.g. HDD controller, WiFi adapter etc), those other resources could be stealing CPU time when they become busy. Try switching USB ports and see if it makes a difference - also, never use a USB hub for your audio interface. Poor quality or damaged USB cables can also cause interruptions. If possible, try another cable.

Please PM @Jonathan Sasor a copy of your project (just the .cwp file should suffice) - we'll take a look.

FYI - when using the track manager: Clicking the hide button on a visible folder will hide all tracks within the folder Clicking the hide button on a hidden folder a folder will ONLY unhide the folder itself, not the tracks within them ALT + Clicking the hide button on a folder will unhide the folder AND all the child tracks. It sounds like you may be did 1 & 2, rather than 1 & 3.

@norfolkmastering - I always found the JL Cooper PPS-100 rock solid. That's what I used in the 90's. I've still got one, and it still works. They've been out of production for a long time though (I think they were only in production between 1989 and 1995), but you can usually pick one up on eBay for anything between £75 to £150. For something more modern, HHB do one (based in Norfolk too!) : https://www.hhb.co.uk/prod/cb-electronics/tc-5b-midi/

Finding a used nVidia card that is supported both by an old motherboard and Windows 11 may prove challenging... I know, I've tried !

Some plugins report parameter changes as a single change for each parameter, rather than a single change for a bulk change of many parameters (which most plugins do). If you've got automation on your tracks, then the parameter changes will be sent to the plugin every time you move the now time around. Better to set changes to 0, and stick to the minutes if you're seeing this behaviour.

Is there any reason you're using External Insert's with no return rather than buses? IIRC, the PDC pretty much relies on the return to calculate the overall roundtrip latency (although it may be that in "send" mode for external inserts, the input and output are essentially are a passthrough... so PDC = 0).

@Frank DeFede - do a full backup of your system before trying the upgrade. I've had compatibility issues with the Intel Graphics 4000 driver (the on-board graphics), and although the limitations don't affect me too much, that might not be the case for your processor.

The most common reason for this is due to having an aggregate ASIO driver installed (such as ASIO4ALL) alongside the manufacturer's ASIO driver. When Sonar enumerates the available ASIO drivers, it opens each one to determine what bit-sizes / sample-rates are supported. If you have an aggregate driver such as ASIO4ALL installed, this driver will open your real audio device and quite often won't "let go" of it when the driver is closed. This causes the real ASIO driver to be unavailable because the device appears as being still in use. Another reason is simply because the ASIO driver it's being used by another application.

Just to clear up what Rufus is... Rufus is primarily an application to create bootable USB sticks. You give it an ISO image (which would traditionally be transferred to a blank DVD), and it makes it work on a USB stick. What the developers of Rufus have done is add options to disable certain portions of the installation script within a Windows 11 install ISO image. These include the checks for TPM 2.0, the CPU check, the requirement for a Windows user account, as well as some other options. So what you end up running is the setup of a standard Windows 11 DVD (downloaded from Microsoft), but with parts of the installation being skipped. The Windows 11 setup can perform an upgrade of your existing operating system (either keeping your programs & files, or removing them), or perform a complete clean install - it's up to you what route you take. I chose a standard upgrade keeping my programs and files, and only a handful of plugins needed re-authorizing after the upgrade. I have had issues with my Intel Graphics 4000 driver as this isn't 100% Windows 11 compliant. It basically works, but I can't change resolution (although I can change display scale), and any attempt to change my monitor configuration left me with my 2nd monitor being ignored after that - I ended up having to restore a backup to get my 2nd monitor back.

Go into Keyboard Shortcuts in Preferences, and check what is defined for "MIDI Shift Options" - I suspect you've got yours set to Controller 0. There are two ways of solving this: 1. If you never use MIDI to trigger keyboard shortcuts, just uncheck "Enabled" next to the MIDI radio button; OR 2. Set the controller to something different, say 120.