John Vere

@User 905133 For some reason the Op screen shot is not showing on my phone? I opened on my laptop and I see what you are saying. Sorry. Doesn’t the metronome go directly to the Hardware outs? If so then possibly the master bus is muted.

I have a series of videos to explain most of the basic stuff. My Channel https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7YqVth30eGsURWrKGeu-fFyg3ETjF-Ox&si=rPDmAhZCOiKc1QcD

What is still a mystery to me is this new vector graphics is obviously not as clear and easy to use for a lot of people reporting so far. So in what way was it deemed to be an upgrade? I was expecting something weird and different but it actually comes across as making Sonar worse than Cakewalk not better. Didn’t the beta testers complain?

Exactly You won’t get any sympathy from anyone you should have kept this to your self.

I guess you don’t get out much. You can travel the world and every where you go, especially tourists hot spots there will be a little duo with a keyboard and guitar player pounding out Proud Mary and all those other classic rock and country songs. And guess what a lot of them are using for backing tracks? General Midi. It gets the job done. You get paid and you’re hopefully having fun. It’s live music at its lowest common denominator. But one thing you will learn as you grow older, is the punters can’t tell the difference. All they hear is Rolling, Rolling Rolling on the River . They are dancing , drunk and having fun. GM can help you be part of this with out needing a whole band. Whole bands take up table space and cost too much. I actually didn’t use GM until much later in life. I just made my own midi files. I personally can totally get by with out a GM player. I’m just making a suggestion I feel would benefit Sonar. Cakewalk has a much bigger following of old school GM users that many of you realize. This is a global community. I can tell from the names of the people who are subscribing to my YouTube channel how global we really are. My tutorial on using the TTS-1 has double the views of most of my other videos.

Is this not available yet? @Noel Borthwick @Jesse Jost I have a few questions and I opened the documentation but It seems its the Cakewalk 2022.11: version covered. First- is some of the Start screen projects have the Preview icon but most don't. It scared the heck out of me when I found the one that did and the project played at 110 db! Second- I did manage to open the spectrograph in the Pro Channel but I had to open , close it a few time before it shows in the mini view of the EQ. This is why I was confused about it's existence. It seems you have to enable the EQ. But it doesn't show unless you turn the EQ on and off a couple of times. Third- I'm finding Mix recall having trouble retaining saving . You save it and it doesn't always show on the list. As you see in the screen shot scene 1 and 2 are missing even in the folder and 3 is missing on the recall list? . This is a brand new project 100% Sonar built. I'll see if I can repro it in a different project tomorrow. Everything else is just wonderful. I'm slowly getting over not having a white PRV.

This was my inspiration for my thread title. It’s a quiet release. As a matter of fact it was @Terry Kelley who stumbled on it somehow as it’s very fine print on the web page. It was a fluke he probably even saw it. I guess the big announcement will come when pricing and setting up the marketing is finalized.

@User 905133 My very first reverb was that. If I open any of my original Midi files from the 80’s they all have Ch 13 pG ? At the start. I later got a Digitech delay unit. I used my GR50 and first an MT 32 and then the Korg 05R/w Then I needed Roland A88?? Midi patch bay to connect it all. It all weighed probably over 100lbs. My current rig fits in a medium size flight case and is under 20 lbs. Including all cables, mikes, capo and a flask of Scotch. Not to mention it sounds 100x better.

OK that was a 10 second task. I simply scanned C/Cakewalk Content "Korg" It shows for Splat, Home Studio, CbB and Sonar ( new) I was my onw stupidity of not remembering how to find it from preferences. For some reason that link takes you to the wrong place. You have to know where to browse to to find the files. Here's the list with the 05R/w on it. Then you connect the dots And now my Motu can remotely access all 5 banks of patches. ( 450 total ??) I see If I can now help the other guy.

Thanks everyone. Originally it was a simple matter of following links from the Preferences. It’s a pretty common set up. I have a bunch of old Sonar installers so I’ll try that. Then it might still have it somewhere as I am in the habit of saving my download folder before I emptied it to my back up drives so there’s a chance I can scan those for it too. I remember it was while making a tutorial about using hardware that I included how to find them. They were on the Cakewalk servers then. The person in the QA forum is using an Alesis module same vintage.

Thanks Glen I meant to thank you for the links to those sound fonts you posted in my tread a week ago. For the life of me I couldn’t get anything to do with sound fonts to work unless it was already part of the player. I always wrote sound fonts off as being something of low quality wrongly judging them on my Sound Blaster days.

Someone asked in the QA sub forum about this. I used to have instrument definition set up for my Korg 05R/W but I never transferred that over from my old computer which the OS drive is now long gone. Anyhow all the posted links on the internet point to using what was a Download on what must have been the server removed last fall. All links from old forum postings and even from within Cakewalk preferences are dead ends. I even found a Korg user group posting which was another dead 404 link. There’s mostly results that are old Forum postings. One was KVR etc. Anyone have a source that is still available? Thanks

Your video is a dead link. Midi input is per project not part of templates really. One little change in your system and a midi input will be lost. When you save projects with say a midi controller all set up to input to all your tracks, you have to make sure that controller is plugged and using the exact USB port and ready to go before you open Cakewalk and that project. Otherwise all input setting will revert to Omni. I figured this out when I set up to use my Keyboard live and I made a project I could play the VST instruments with.

OK I guess I will have to read the manual. I now see that this was also always part of Cakewalks preferences. I didn't notice the slider either. Jeeze. When do we ever stop finding hidden gems like that! I always found the colours a little too loud and after all these years I could have quieted them down. This one little thing makes a huge difference for me. Now the tracks are easier to define. Thank you to all those of you who are much smarter than me for mentioning this. This actually makes a big difference to the way Sonar looks now. Hey! Another revelation, I finally figured out how to make images smaller,, its a left click, not right. I'm on a roll! And I now see that the spectrograph hasn't changed and that the only difference is you can now disable it. In CbB that menu is not available.

You need to remove both of those from your system, They are what is known as an invasive drivers and they will cause issues like this. No doubt even if you deselect it you will find it listed in the latency settings in Sync and Caching tab. Its bad news. Remove it in the Reg Edit app as shown below. Just choose delete. You only want your Motu or any other proper audio interfaces, see my ZoomL8 too, listed here. These drivers are installed with other software as alternatives to on board audio and are not needed even by that software. The realtek ASIO driver is totally not recommended by Cakewalk staff. Windows now uses WASAPI mode. If you follow my set up in this video you can use the Motu for everything and even multiple music apps can be used at the same time. https://youtu.be/opDwsC4_llg

There's no such thing as a free lunch-

Sorry you didn't get a reply yet. Not many old time Hardware user left around here and people are being distracted by the release of Sonar. To answer your question I opened cakewalk and was expecting to find my instrument definition file for my Korg 05R/W which is same vintage as your Alesis. It wasn't listed and the link took me knowhere. I asked in another thread and that triggered me doing a search of C drive Cakewalk Content where I found the file. I see your Alesis is on the list too but only as the QS8. So I'm not sure you managed to get to this point but I'll post it anyhow for future reference of others. The INS files are found in C/Cakewalk Content/Instruments. In preferences you click on the Define to see the list and if your instrument isn't there you use Import and browse to above location where you will find most common Hardware midi devices listed. You load that and in the case of most brands it will list all of the products. You then choose your model Then you connect it to the port you are using. And now the correct patches and banks will be available to a midi track that you select the same midi port as the output.

Track templates do not save data from the tracks. It is the whole point of templates. This is universal to all software.

I agree. In away the only excuse they have is that it was free software so we never owned it to begin with, so therefore you cannot keep it. I'm still using Movie Studio 17 even though it's full of bugs. I bought the upgrade to 2023 and they had changed it beyond function for me. I already bought ( actually renting) Sonar but I'll admit I ended up finishing my work yesterday in Cakewalk. It was actually due to the fact that I haven't associated files with Sonar yet. I accidentally opened the song I had been working on from explorer and Cakewalk opened. Oops, there's was no warning about opening in an old version so I happily carried on. Now working more efficiently by not making all the click errors I had been making in Sonar Returning to even Sonar Platinum is not a viable option. That hurts! Selling CbB outright as is would make a lot of people happy. What do they have to lose? And I'm sure just like the transition from 8.5 to the X series the hold outs would eventually cross over once the new version was to their liking. That's a more user friendly transition than what we are facing now. We all hated the skylight interface too if you remember. I stayed with 8.5 up until X3. Now we are basically saying we want to keep it. They could add a button in the Cakewalk Product manager- " Unlock Cakewalk " which takes you to the store where you purchase it. I would do this for sure even if I also keep Sonar. Win Win. They would actually create extra income if you think about it. Example as I said I'd be willing to own both! And it could happen the day Sonar is officially released. As it is, after that day Cakewalk users will be waking up each day wondering if CbB will still be activated. That sucks. OK Bandlab are you listening-- I'm waving money at you! Do you want it?

You mean I'm going to have to read the manual!! how absurd!

OK, It seems a little glitchy. I first clicked on the fly out and ya, no spectrum. I closed it and opened it again and it was there. I tried a few tracks and they all sort of were random on if the spectrum was there. Anyhow, where is the new one? I don't see anything ( not that anything is that visible now) Another thing I just noticed is Mix recall is either disabled or broken. You save a new scene and it's not on the recall list. Save again and it says scene 2 and it's not showing either. And once again I don't no how many times I chose Solo instead of record today. That is super annoying. Please bring back the red dot. And with these narrow dividers I keep focusing the wrong track. I'm not giving up yet but it's hard to get excited about this new look. And I also notice the console view all my strips are the same colour now. That's also a regresion. So I hope it becomes a priority to see if we can return to customizing the colours.

Like I said somewhere around here. It’s 2017 all over again! It is very entertaining!! Note: Sorry folks if you are having issues with CbB please be patient as the team of helpful people are pre occupied at the moment. Your problems are important to us but you will be put on hold for a few months until we’re finished transitioning to Sonar. Thank you. Beep.

Exactly. This is a mystery to me that people are talking about a spectrum analyzer being new??

Thanks @Jim Fogle That’s for sure. Seems only Cubase and Studio One are one the same page. It’s most certainly a different fan club when it comes to GM midi , backing tracks and Band in a box type software.