John Vere

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Yes, Obviously a routing issue like a aux track or something bypassing the master buss. Play the song and mute the master buss.

Truth be told I never even noticed the change ...I actually thought they looked the same and wondered what the fuss was about. But then again I could use with better glasses..?

It fine. The VST scan is only looking for dll. and ignores all else. I think only the right sort of dll. I put everything I download for free in the Program Files/ VST folder. This includes any read me files and PDF's.

Track view Views menu/ Display

Yikes don’t say that ? It even hurts to use a mouse right now!

Thanks for you excellent advice @User 905133 I’d love to have as much input from other experienced users as possible. With You Tube if you screw up you can’t edit the video. You have to totally delete it and add the new version. This is why I deleted my first 10 tutorials I made over last Winter. They probably took 100’s of hours to make but I found flaws in each that even though minor I couldn’t except. And as I go forward I’m learning more about Cakewalk than ever. So I want to include new info or workflow ideas. You wouldn’t believe how many details I edit out as I go. I start out with Word , Cakewalk and the Documentation page side by side and start exploring every dialogue box and configuration associated with the topic feature. This might be 4 pages which I’ve learned equates to a 16 or more minute video. I try for under 10 min. So it takes hours of careful editing. But here’s the catch. What might seem unimportant to me might just be the perfect thing for someone else. Because there are already a zillion Cakewalk quick start videos I’m trying to not take the easy way out and just touch the surface. But how deeply should I dig? Cakewalk is almost bottomless! I feel I’m getting better at this and then because of that I will probably redo the 6 videos I just did. No problem. It’s part of the plan to post these, get feedback. Back to editing and update. I figured it would take all Winter. I just had shoulder replacement surgery so it’s a 6 month excuse to work on this. I can’t even play my guitar or keyboards right now and I’ll be selling my drum kit as I’m told no way ever by the surgeon

Just looking at your screen shot again what is impossible to duplicate is the Browser has the double sideways arrows. It normally would have an up arrow. Yesterday I’m was typing out my narrative for the next tutorial which just happens to be about the Browser view. I proceeded to explore every docking option. It’s sort of a View I’ve never bothered with as I always have the Synth Rack at the top and the browser below. I’ll drag either one bigger or smaller if needed. And I’ll use B to get it out of my way. I learned a few things by poking around. You can undock by dragging any of the 3 views Browser, Synth Rack and Help Module to the Track View area . The Right side docking space disappeared and there are no arrows to pull it out. It’s gone. You can remove the 3 views by clicking the x or using their hide /show keys B, alt9 and Y. They return to where you left them. If you grab any of the 3 views and move it right the Blue “ you can dock here” appears and you can dock the view on the right again. The browser and synth rack can also be dragged to the multi dock but not Help. I didn’t realize that the Right hand space was just that, a space to dock those 3 views. Same as the space at the top of the track view which seems exclusive for the Multi Dock only. Conclusion is the skylight interface has 4 docking locations at each edge of the Track View. But only certain views are legal for each location? I think I now discovered all docking scenarios and your view is definitely not one of those.

As time wears on here in Cakeland the developers seem to be listening and fixing lots of stuff requested along the way. Just now while exploring options in the Browser for next tutorial I discovered a few new things I thought worth sharing The notes tab in Browser: First I added a picture and sure enough after saving it now shows in the start screen cool. Didn’t know that. In the past I new about entering a Song name here but never tested the rest. If you export using the simple ( original) dialogue the name you put in notes will be what the wave file is named. But not any of the other info. The new advanced dialogue uses the project name by default. I then went to export as an MP3 and was surprised by a new dialogue that allows you to change the bit rate and stuff. Also you can check a box and the info you included in notes will be embedded in the file. So we now have a very advanced MP3 export dialogue Good stuff Cakewalk team.

Goodness Bob that's a new one even for me ⁉️ and a challenge. I would think that all you need to do is draw a volume envelope going up but I do believe there's a limitation on how much gain you'll get which I just checked and its only +6db from 0. So the CD track is already maxed out. A solution to this would be to apply gain to the whole song and reduce it down to a level that gives you enough headroom. This might be like -25db. Once you've leveled out the ending you could then normalize the track back to something like -1.0 db Other idea I might try is splitting it into a zillion chunks and applying Gain to each chunk to get them all the same level.. I would not want that task!

I'll be making a tutorial eventually but I think that one is #20 and I'm just working on #7

Everybody's different but if I recorded that low I'd then have more work to do to get levels where I need them for the Master. If my goal is a -1.0 12 LUFS master then I need to feed it a good healthy signal. If all my tracks were recorded at -18 I'm WAY off the mark. -8 is very safe as far as I'm concerned. -2 is a bit to close as example but not over the top yet. Insert a Soft synth and feed it a midi track with the velocity at around 100. It will probably output closer to -2.0 db by default. It's probably not clipping the meter either. There's plenty of articles and Tutorials about mixing and level and its all over the map so take it all with a grain of salt. A lot of these ideas are coming from different situations and systems. I just know what work for me coming from Analog equipment both recording and Live Sound mixing. My masters are nice and loud at -12 LUFS and they are totally safe from clipping @ -1.0 db true peak level. None of my tracks or busses are clipping or even close at -4 db even. You can actually hit 0 without a clip but that's not a good idea. It's not "wrong" to have to turn up the Gain on the Master Buss but it's not how most people would deal with a quiet song. It all boils down to healthy track output levels, effects in the correct place in the signal chain, sub busses for adjusting sections and a good limiter and analyzers on that Master buss.

I took my conclusion from the screen shot. He shows the gain at 12 o clock and it is reading -8.9. which is correct. It is true that experienced audio engineers don't touch Master bus Gain or Faders. You use your sub busses. This is why sub busses are important for normal complexed mixes. If your song is quiet it's no wonder as to me -18 is way to low. I use between -10 and -6 with -8 being perfect. I use the the track gain control to achieve this. I play the song and adjust buy analyzing the peak and LUFS is averaging for each track. I also use Span and the You Lean loudness meter for accuracy using LUFS or RMS as all it take is one little spike to make you "think" a track is peaking at -2 when in fact there was only one little peak and the average level was really -12. It's a bit time consuming but a properly gained project will almost mix itself. First step is before I use compression to tame peaks I will find the peaks and pull them down with a volume envelope or clip gain. It really depends on what the track is. Vocals take the most work. Bass, keyboards and rhythm guitar are usually a steady level. Drums are a problem child and usually need lots of compression to keep them up there without peaks. But the goal is 20 tracks that all are steady at -8db. Then I use the sub busses to mix the parts usually with the Vocals at unity and a little pull down on the rest. On the master I now use the free LoudMax limiter. Then the You Lean loudness meter to tell me my true peak level and LUFS which I go for 1.0 peak and - 12 LUFS. So easy to dial this in with the Loud Max.

I notice your Workspaces seems to be set to none? Not sure if this would cause that. Becuase I do use a few pre sets I made my screen is always exactly correct the way I want it, But-- I opened a blank template, I set my workspace to none and the whole browser view disappeared completely and there was no double arrow. So there were no views to see. So I inserted the Browser by pressing B and then added the synth rack. You are correct that I can minimize the Browser but there's no arrows to do that with the synth rack. Weird for sure. So are you using Screensets? If there's a bug then I'll assume it's something got messed up in a screen set.

Buss Gain are set different than Tracks. The unity is at 3 o'clock instead of 12 o'clock, Why? I guess because you don't normally need that +18 db of headroom that a track has on a buss because it is being fed by a track that should be in the ballpark and not that far out. You'll notice track gain is either + or - 18db. The Buss gain is from - inf to + 6.

Fanboy? Hardly. I could careless what OS you use. I still have XP on my netbook. I also have W7 on a laptop and these are both because I have hardware such as a printer, scanner and a very cool PCI audio interface that need those OS. So there’s people who run old OS versions for compatibility issues but then there are what I call holdouts who have it in their heads that the new OS is evil. ? We seem to get this with every new version of Windows.

FYI. I have a 250 GB SSD system drive on my main Daw computer. I have probably 30 different software suites all on C drive. it’s a little more than 1/2 full most of the time. I don’t store any data like pictures, music or movies on the C drive. Most of my VST libraries are on the 1 TB drive. But all of Cakewalks stuff is still on C drive. I store all my data on my 1 TB data drives. For Cakewalk I installed a second 250 GB SSD drive just for projects and Wave files. I found using the 1TB HHD was bogging things down. Doesn’t matter for samples as they load into RAM.

@scook That's one way I never would have figured out. Excellent. But guess what? I did find a way too. Append instrument track. There was a thread the other day and the OP was having trouble using append instrument track, I had never heard of this feature. So if you choose Append Instrument track with the instrument in focus it creates a new instrument track. I had to change the channels but it gave me 2 outputs for the TTS_1. I then inserted using Append again and the 3rd instrument track automatically was set to Channel 3. So that's pretty easy.

Try to take an existing instrument track with one stereo output and change it to multiple stereo outputs. I’m unaware of a way that can be done. ? If there is it must be complicated.

Mr Fra is a Windows 7 hold out. To me if you have decided there’s something evil about W10 then you better be prepared for the day that you can’t install anything anymore.

When you insert an instrument there is an option to choose to use all available outputs in either stereo or mono. You have to do it then, not afterwards.

In the latest update they seem to have fixed this issue and it works great. In the past these tracks would all have been 31 sec. Now they are correct. This is a export using Tracks Through entire mix. So they have all passed through my limiter on the master buss etc. This was just simple narration dialogue but this can now be used to master an entire album of songs. For me this will change an important workflow and I can almost kiss Wave Lab and it's stupid dongle good bye.

100% agree that we should try to use the correct name for features on this forum. My go to is the help module. So my bad for using that label when I actually do know its correct title. The help module is never wrong. I thought it was the other day when looking for the correct name for the right hand view in PVR. I was surprised that it called it the "Track Pane"? But the info in the help module is different than what you see for the Track Pane found in Track View. So I concluded there is a Track View Track Pane and a PVR Track Pane. Of note is the Add track dialogue also appears when you use the menu found by right clicking a blank space of the Track Pane. But the insert Audio Track found there doesn't. I have a feeling the Insert Instrument was added to this menu at the time they added the Add Track feature.

Yes it would seem easy to add a few more options. Im not exactly sure when the newer dialogue appeared in Cakewalk or Sonar. I ignored it’s existence up until I started making the tutorials. I always had used the synth rack exclusively as well as split instrument track set to single synth output.The only 2 synths I use that have multiple outputs are AD2 and Xpand I use the built in mixer and effects. So I rarely even used the old one. Now I’m liking using simple instrument tracks so the new dialogue works better because of the input/output options. But then it would be perfect if I could set those as my default and it was saved as a preference for all projects. Then I would always use drag and drop. I guess the other option is they could add the input/output option to the old dialogue and I could return to my old habit with 2 more things set up for me now.