John Vere

I lost track of this thread a few pages ago. But was it ever mentioned o make sure to use MME midi mode with most legacy devices?

Can you solo the instrument track? You say you’re soloing midi tracks. Normally when you solo a midi track it will also solo the instrument it was assigned to automatically.

And you didn’t make backups of all your goodies? All of your Old Sonar effects are individual programs with serials etc. Most can be used with out the server if you made copies and wrote down the numbers. Some of the companies like Overloud were nice enough to give us codes if you sent a screenshot of your Sonar serial number. The only thing you actually need the server for is to install Sonar itself which you actually don’t need if you don’t use those included effects Anyhow when you get your account working again. Back it up.

Don’t give up on them yet. Remember the guy who replied after 3 months. Lately If someone has answered a question I wait until the op replies before tossing in my 2 cents

Even though this sounds rude I have to agree with mr Dickens. If your pitch is that far off might be a good idea to do some voice training. We all started somewhere and singing is all about control of your voice. That only comes with practice, just like a basketball shot. I haven’t looked but I would imagine that there are many good tutorials on singing now. That said there’s definitely a way to use midi to control vocals. I think the hardware to do that was originally made here in BC in the 80’s. Possibly better versions of Melodyne can do this? Anyways glad you’re finally using it properly and you can move forward from there.

Melodyn is not normally used in an effects bin. It is a Regional Effect. Is that why you are freezing? The preferred way to work with Melodyne editor is first make a copy of the track and archive it as a back up.. You highlight a preferably short audio clip, right click to open the dialog shown in my screen shot. Then choose as shown to Create a regional effect. This will open Melodyne editor . When your finished editing then open the same dialog and choose "Render Regional effect" This prints the editing to the audio file permanently. and frees up CPU and Memory usage. If you found you need to re do something it's easy to use the back up copy of the track.

In preferences/midi/devices- make sure to check input is checked for your keyboard controller if you are using one. In output best to uncheck all boxes unless you are using hardware synths. The output of all midi tracks needs to be sent to a VST instrument. Use the add track + icon to insert an instrument

Bottom line is there’s always more than one way to do the same things in Cakewalk. And the choice of what view you use too. We have as above found you can use the PVR, Event list and Track View. I would imagine you can also use the Notation view as well ?

If your end goal is mixing for games then you would want a few of those commonly used systems to proof on. No point proofing a gaming soundtrack on a car stereo ? As it is a set of gaming headphones might be perfect. And might as well turn those awful enhancements on because guess what they were made for!

Most of us have invested in good studio monitors that we "learn" how they sound. I have a set of Yamaha NSM10's that you used to find in every studio in the world almost. They are arguably the most used "proofing the mix" monitors ever. But they are actually not very interesting speakers to listen to recorded music on because they are a bit boring. Go figure. They are a fluke I guess. But I have use these for 25 years so I can listen and know within 98% of how my music will sound in the real world on all sorts of systems. This is called Translating to other systems and they certainly do this well. So you will have to invest in the same type of system if you can. Otherwise you are faced with the option of listening to your music on as many systems as possible and taking notes. This is a HUGE task but it can work. I still proof my mixes on a kitchen getto blaster and my Trucks CD player driving at 110 K. I also now upload the songs to Sound/click/cloud and listen on my iPhone's speaker- this is probably 90% of where it will go. But because I have "learned" my monitors I rarely need to re mix for balance and quality. Bass can be the biggest issue for new comers. Use Span so "look" at your spectrum. Enhancers most often boost bass and if there's already too much you just get distortion.

I don't think I've used a recovery version but I will assume it will have saved the exact state of the project at the time of the crash. Probably not the last edit you did and if you haven't been rendering the Melodyne tracks then all of it would be lost. What happens is you can overload your computers memory I do do believe. If your saying it "looks" different then possibly you have a different workspace loaded? The good news is the original is still just fine and if you only lost the work you did in that session then as I said, lesson learned. We only do that once( hopefully

Lesson learned. It's been talked about a lot here and most of use have learned that when working with Melodyne your need to do 3 things. 1- Work with a copy of the original vocal track so you can always go back. 2- Work with short clips, no more than 2 measures. The shorter the better. 3- Always render the clip when you are finished editing. If you change your mind latter you can copy from the original back up. I break mine into lines between breaths where there's always a visible break. This also serves to clean up the noises between as well. And Always save as you work after you have spent any amount of time you don't want to loose with any editing or recording. And you can always activate auto save but myself that creates clutter in my project folder I don't want. As far as your missing back up. Did you look in the project folder? It will be there and be marked as such.

You can use the event list. That's always been my Go to. Under Views uncheck the Notes and that should only leave weird stuff you might not want and delete it.

Good to know, There's a few threads scattered about on this topic.

The TH3 has a lot of very clean sounds for Jazz and Country, I even use it for Folk stuff on acoustic guitar. . They give you standard amps that have been used in Country music for decades. Try one of the Fenders like the Bass Face or , Dark Face or Tweed with the 12' Tweed Cabinet and adjust it just like you would for a real amp. I actually often don't bother with the amps and just use the pedals. That's even cleaner that way. I have already recorded using an amp. But sometimes I use my Tone Bone DI box. The Compressor, Phasor and Chorus I use a lot. I think the Overload TH3 is all I'll ever need. That and I like to use the Sonitus Delay.

You should watch the tutorials as what you’re trying to do has many new features that will improve your workflow. Like take lanes and the arranger as well as ripple editing.

This might be the current issue with SI instruments not installing there’s at least a couple of threads about this

You should start your own thread. Your issues are totally different than the topic of this thread.

It’s nice to have more than one computer, audio interface etc when troubleshooting. I often fire up my laptop to see what people who never had Sonar see with CbC . It is Fresh install W10 OS and only free music software. I still have that old 2008 Sony laptop with windows 7 and it must have a pretty old version of CbB by now. Still working fine.

None of my VST2 go to the Program file/common folder. Only VST3 I only ever check the 64 bit VST and or VST 3 options. The VST 2 either go to Program files VST folder or I have Steinberg VST folder . Pay attention during install to the pathway offered. Most free VST’s are dead simple and you just open the zip file and drag and drop the .dll into the VST folder. VST’s with samples use an installer and usually give you options for where they go If you purchase a license they either use an on line manager like the band lab assistant or you enter the serial numbers on first use Only VST I’ve ever had issues with installation is Air products.

I do a lot of editing and mixing on my office computer which is in a spare bedroom right of the main living area. I have a nice small set of Mackie CR4 powered monitors and I’m certainly not bothering my family even with the door open. I shut the door and I’m making less noise than the fridge. I put the headphones on for loud. It’s an age old engineering trick to turn down as low as possible and see what you are still hearing. Good monitoring both speakers and phones are paramount to mixing. Room treatment is also critical but is not as important at lower levels. You can also use your eyes to analyze a mix. I use Span, You lean loudness meter and the pro channels fly out of the Quadcurve EQ. You can “see” which frequencies are miss behaving Drop a reference track into a project and solo it. Compare what it “looks” like to your music. But regardless a audio interface is a good investment for audio playback as it will give you the proper connectivity for your audio devices. And level control of headphones and speakers if you get some.

Copy the lower level track to a new audio track and see if it now sounds correct. Might be you have toggled pro channel or ? Lots of things come to mind but a fresh audio track should be normal sound by default.

I drag and drop my entire folders which may contain 10 to 25 projects into backup drives both internal and external. I date them as such. “ Originals October 2021 backup “. Those are albums I’m working on for myself or clients. I also copy those to my second computer. There is a minimum of 4 copies available and often many more dates. Storage is cheap . My favourite method is for my backing tracks which I have slowly eliminated all audio tracks by converting them to midi. Those I save to one drive as CWP files. I have over 200 of them but if there’s no audio the files are small. They are then stored in multi locations at once. I also saved them as midi files. Midi is future proof and definitely what I have spent the majority of my time on. So I think everyone should save their projects as midi if they contain a lot of midi tracks

Best Acoustic bass I've found is Dim Pro. You would need to have Sonar to have Dim Pro. Free and included with Cakewalk is the patch in the TTS_1 which can be tweaked with pro channel to work too.

I’d be curious too. My workflow for recording live bands was to create a template with all the inputs, busses, pro channel set up, colours, effects etc and the use save as and name each project using the provided set list. I would open the whole set and minimize to the bottom. So there’s 12-15 projects open. This was on a laptop with 8 GB of ram. Always worked smoothly for me.