John Vere

Sounds like you are using one screen and haven’t opened the multi dock full screen see video #8 for all the tips on using your multi dock. Video #3 also has lots of info on using Cakewalks skylight interface

Did you demo of Melodyne expire? Or did you purchase a license?

Yes people get confused because a TRS cable is both an unbalanced stereo cable and a balanced mono cable. Pretty rare to use it for stereo other than in a headphones rig. The effects send you are referring to was not from auxiliary send jacks but is common for insert jacks. You then need a TRS to Y cable. But most pro quality mixers will use TRS outputs for Aux sends and sometimes the returns. Because Aux are mostly used for monitoring systems not effects. And an effects rack will be a short distance from the board but the monitor amp might be at the other end of a 300’ snake. Thank goodness those days are almost over and we can now use CAT5 or wireless It’s important to read the manual for all audio equipment and know what the connection jacks are as it can make a difference to how much noise you might get in the mains or monitoring. I’ve owned power amps that used only TRS inputs and 1/4” speaker outs, you most certainly can’t go by looking at a jack to know what they are. That’s why combo jacks rule now. You can assume they will be balanced.

Because my voice seems to sound the best on a Beta 58 after trying dozens and dozens of mike over the last 50 years I was thinking of the SM7b as well. They bash it on Gearsnobs site but I have a feeling it will sound at least better than my 58. My Joe Meek pre amp was very reasonable price and I like it a lot but I still would like to have something else too. I have one of those old Art tube pre amps with a tube in it. I even upgrade the tube. But I can’t really hear anything exciting about it. I used it mostly as a DI box when I do live sound. I totally avoid using phantom power in any of my audio systems. I’ve blown up way too much stuff with it over the years. That’s the other reason I don’t want any mikes that need it. I have a few small condensers that take batteries

When you connect them Windows downloads and installs that codex driver so it different than others. You don't need to install asio4all. As I said I have a very similar interface made by them. I guess downloading asio4all is an option but people are pretty used to never reading instructions and just plug stuff in and go. You can see this is exactly what the OP has done. My guess is asio4all would have even more latency than WASAPI shared. I'm not sure what exactly happens when you use the USB Codex driver input but the Realtek output? I would try using just the USB codex output to see if that works and plug your computer speakers into the headphone jack of the interface. Out of curiosity I just plugged mine in and it works fine. I even played a very dense mix with a lot of plug ins. I used WASAPI shared mode like the OP. It also ran fine in WASAPI exclusive so both are supported. But It defiantly stalled when I tried to record a loopback test. Very sluggish. They are therefore a small step above using Realtek on board audio. You just get some proper jacks to use. One can do the loopback and adjust the timing offset in sync and caching if you choose to put up with work arounds. Top track, Yellow, is original audio drum track Middle track , Green, is the loopback using WASAPI exclusive which is 1/64 note late at 120 BPM Bottom track Blue is WASAPI shared which is 1/32 note late @ 120 BPM If you don't understand what this means it is to demonstrate what your guitars and vocals will be like if you try recording audio in WASAPI modes as apposed to ASIO. ( asio4all is WDM mode as said above, not ASIO. It would be even later.

I’m not sure what those devices are for? I was talking about a proper mike preamp like Joe Meek, Focusrite,Dangerous or Warm audio etc. and therefore bypass audio interfaces pre amps. Example I connect theJoe meek to my rear panel line level inputs so it is more or less direct to the A/D Haven’t had a chance to do any recording for a few weeks as I’m in live gig mode right now so focused on that. But I was going to try this and see if it’s better. Of great interest to me is your observations on transients of vocals. This is sort of opposite of my issue because I have to turn down to a average level of -18 db to avoid clipping with the Motu. In other words it’s hyper sensitive to transients. The Focusrite is a little better but it’s disappointing sound was why I bought the Joe Meek. The Tascam is more like what I’m used to from old school analog mixing consoles I can hit it much harder @ -8 db and it never clips. But it was made in 2008 and drivers last updated in 2015 I’m basically not happy these days with vocals and there’s probably a zillion reasons why so I’ll be working through the ones I can afford to fix starting with experimenting with what I have on hand. I’m thinking a better mike pre is in the future before waisting more cash on yet another interface or mike. I guess you can’t expect a $600 pre amp to be built in to a $400 interface.

To correct what people are saying the Behringer actually uses a USB generic codex as you can clearly see in the screen shots. Asio4all is not involved here. It is a plug and play driver. I have an older Behringer interface that uses that same driver. It is just fine for playback and for working with midi only recording. You just can’t use it for recording audio without sync issues and what not. It may not support WASAPI modes. It will work just fine using the codex driver but with limitations of use as stated above

I believe you! But am also amazed that there could be THAT much difference in the pre amps? Most of the gear snobs will argue on sites like Gearspace for pages and pages on this topic. Probably a zillion posts about pre amps and how they do or don't vary that much anymore. But pre amps to me are the most critical part of the recording signal chain. I'm about to toss my Motu M4 in the trash for this and other reasons. I'm sorry Motu, but your pre amps and drivers suck compared to my Focusrite and Tascam units. But both of those are on the edge of driver support being 10 years and older. I need to have a modern interface and the funny thing is I was going to hold out to raise enough cash for the RME baby face. In the mean time I dusted off my Joe Meek 3Q ( stand alone Preamp) to see if that will solve the Motu pre amp weirdness I'm getting. Possibly owning a dedicated top quality pre amp is a better investment than upgrading an interface?

Please don’t double post

I agree with above. Sadly those interfaces are no better than using your on board audio system. They probably work fine with a Mac. If you can still exchange it get something like a Focusrite. These videos will help you learn more about what you are trying to accomplish. #1- Audio Set up- Try everything here and see if it helps first #20- How to set up an Audio Interface. # 103 for info on the purchase of a interface, kinda late now. #106- Why ASIO is important

You can do it Richard. I know you can!! My secret weapon when it’s not working is the best Scotch I can afford ?

I can see that track is probably toast. When you see a waveform with flat tops and bottoms that is a sure sign that track is well past 0db. But- Most importantly is what does that part sound like? If it sounds nasty there’s no point carrying on because with digital audio if it clipping it’s toast. That’s why lesson #1 is always set you inputs well below where clipping is even remotely possible. Super easy to turn up tracks but if it clips it basically garbage. You need to re record any part that clips. There’s nothing else can be done.

As I said if you want this fixed submit a crash report to Cakewalk. The developers don’t always see posts here.

You can never have too many synths!

The standard practice has always been to create a midi track for each channel. Or you use a Simple Instrument track which I do. You can view multiple tracks as an overlay in PVR by holding Ctrl and selecting them. Tutorials #12, 13&14 explain using midi tracks and instruments

Just a few pointers on how to ask questions on user Forums. First it is always best to start your own thread rather than dig up old threads where the OP has 2 posts count and has not visited this forum since. Even the people who replied have not returned to this forum for more than a year with the exception of @Freddie see how I tagged him by adding @. To his user name? That’s how we get the attention of other forum members. But only if they are active members which out of the few who replied he’s the only one you can see is still active here. You can click on any members name to see this info and you can also send them a PM from there. They might get that if they agreed to email notifications. But asking a question to none active members is like picking up your phone and asking a question to the dial tone. Sorry for the long winded reply but I’m putting this here so other new members understand how user forums work.

Audio is recorded directly from your interfaces which is 100% in control of input gain. From there the signal is converted to digital and “recorded “ as data to your hard drive as a wave file Example 48/24 or 44.1/24 wav. That file becomes your audio track in Cakewalk and from there it feeds the channel strip from top to bottom. Cakewalks channel strip only processes audio after it is recorded. You can “Monitor “ the processing in real time by engaging input echo but that just monitoring. You need to be aware that monitoring input echo is subject to your system latency.

Yes it’s not anything you would need unless you did use it in the past. It’s certainly falls in the obsolete category. What I do with unwanted plug ins is use the plug in manager and the Exclude option. Go through the different types and exclude the ones I’ll never use. That way the plug in is still installed and harmless but it won’t clutter up your lists in Cakewalk. This gives me the option to re try a plug in again down the road.

As said above always export your stems or rough mix using the “Entire Project “ time setting so tracks are always starting at zero. With the fast speed of the internet these day you can certainly upload and download stereo 44.1/16 wave files easily. You friend should send back the stem the same way, starting at zero , but I would be using at least 44.1/24 or better.

I get a similar issue with Ample P bass lite. Randomly you hear what I determined is a slap sample when you press the transport to stop playback. It’s very annoying but it’s a free version so I won’t complain. There is absolutely no midi data to generate the note which is way up above C7. So it will be the plug ins involved not Cakewalk. Obviously Scaler from what you say. If you output the VST to Midi Ox it will possibly show you what the midi data is.

You even spelt their name wrong. But @Reinaldo Farías only posted here those 2 times exactly 2 years ago, and unless they get email notifications you’re talking to the wind.

Good to know, thanks. Cakewalk‘s info on the internet is mostly outdated. The best info is actually found here on this forum but you need to pay attention to the posting dates. Sad thing is the majority of Cakewalk users now post on Facebook and not this Forum. Facebook is useless for gathering the correct answers and info.

I know exactly the videos that recommend Asio4all and they have millions of views. They are the most highly recommended too. So it's not the OP's fault for taking advice from a source like that. Here's the Videos with correct information, the first few are the most important.

I thought you had to leave the Assistant installed to activate Cakewalk every 6 months? I know you don’t need to ever open it or use it, but my understanding was it is the “ manager” for Cakewalk just like XLN and Izotope use. I googled the question “Do you need the Bandlab Assistant installed to use Cakewalk?” And as usual there’s a zillion different outdated answers.

Watch video #1 for proper settings for audio with Cakewalk