Automation not working in newest SW releas(es)?

[jarcity 0]

I just upgraded to the latest version and suddenly all my automations are not working (for both the built-in Sonitus and my Nexus2 VSTs).

The automation graph shows as before, but when I play back, the output is constant between two automation points (i.e. the output jumps between the points, there is no linear or slow/fast increase/decrease between the points). 

How to fix this, or is it a known bug?

Looking forward to your response.

[Promidi 462]

As a test, just loaded a track with Sonitus reverb in the effect bin.  I added automation lanes for a couple of Sonitus reverb's parameters.  The parameters mapped responded to the automation I entered when played back.

Working fine here.

Are you sure you have not occidentally bypassed all read automation in the Mix Module?

[jarcity 0]

Thanks, but I checked: Read automation is enabled. Did some more testing: Automation is somewhat working as the automation points are read, but the transition from one point to another is not (linear, fast, slow curved line ). It is like it jumps no matter what line is selected.. Any help is appreciated as this issue has stopped me from finishing my work. 

Edit:

And it gets more strange: It might work the first time you play a clip with automation, but not the second time.. It is very strange. Just tested with sonitus EQ and this is an issue when automating the frequency. 

Edited December 18, 2019 by jarcity

[Promidi 462]

Sorry, I can't say I have ever encountered that issue.

Maybe drop a note to Cakewalk support

https://help.cakewalk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360000025633

[jarcity 0]

Thanks for your help. Sure will do! 

[pwalpwal 1,100]

do you have the GUI Throttle thing enabled? that causes the visual timeline indicator to "jump" to save CPU, could it be related?

[jarcity 0]

@pwalpwal thanks but don't think so:

Cakewalk has a CPU conservation mode that reduces the number of GUI updates with no effect on actual playback quality and rendering. 

[jarcity 0]

So no one has experienced this?

Simple stuff like volume automation seems to work, but automating the parameters of (some) VST plugins seems not to work. An easy test is to automate the freq parameter of Sonitus Equlizer: For me, the envelope (linear, fast curve, slow curve) is never read when playing back, it always jumps from parameter to parameter..

Any help or suggestions is welcome!

[Promidi 462]

I've never had this issue.

I know you said you've "upgraded to the latest version". 

However, just to confirm, are you using Cakewalk by Bandlab 2019.11 Build 63 ?

Has Cakewalk support got back to you? (other than the automated response)

[jarcity 0]

@Promidi Yes I am using 2019.11 build 63.

Cakewalk support has got back to me, but it takes time so I have to try to find a workaround.

[Promidi 462]

2 hours ago, jarcity said:

I have to try to find a workaround.

Hopefully someone who is also experiencing the same issue can respond.

In the meantime, does every plugin experience this behaviour or just a select few?

Maybe a workaround is to try plugins that do not exhibit this behaviour...

[David Baay 507]

I can't replicate this, either. All automation curve types are honored as expected with Sonitus EQ.

The only idea I have is that this might be O/S specific. Are you on Windows 10?

[jarcity 0]

@David Baay yes win 10..

Thanks all for you help guys. I think I will run Windows System Restore to a date prior to the Cakewalk update and see if that 'solves' it.

[scook 2,741]

Automation problems make me wonder if CW130Auto.dll somehow got out of sync with CbB.

Right-click then open properties and compare the file version  under the details tab for both

C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Cakewalk Core\Cakewalk.exe

and

C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared Utilities\CW130Auto.dll

they should be the same.

 

 

[jarcity 0]

@scook thanks, but the file version is the same.

I have also tried to delete and re-install the application. Still not working for me. I think maybe I will purchase another DAW. I just need to continue working on my projects.

[msmcleod 2,181]

Have you perhaps accidentally disabled automation on the plugin?

[jarcity 0]

Thanks for sharing this @msmcleod but Read automation is enabled..

[Alastair Cardwell 2]

I am having the  same issue with automation and am also using Windows 10.

I have found that if I  click in the time  ruler and move the now time  so that  it is not  on a beat or half way between two beats then click play the  automation  works. If the  now time is  on the beat or  half way between the two beats  when I click play  the automation  does not work correctly.  

 

[Alastair Cardwell 2]

It is not mentioned in the release notes but todays update (2019.12 build 26) appears to have  fixed  this.

[jarcity 0]

@Alastair Cardwell Thanks so much for sharing this. I will check it asap

[Leandro 4]

I have the same problem.... I record the automation, but when I playback, nothing moves... and of course... read automation is enabled. I'm getting so annoyed by this. I can't understand how 15 years ago the Cubase release I was using NEVER failed on automation and Cakewalk 2020 can't handle automation properly...

The automation track in the image, there's no way I can't make it to be read...