Andrew Rhodes 30 Posted January 11 (edited) Hello Cakewalk people New song. Few little issues with it I think, but I spent enough time on it now! Not many people you can trust in this world! EDIT 30/1/23 Ok, after your very enlightening comments, I've remixed the track. Hopefully this one will address the points everyone has mentioned. Let me know if this improves things. Thanks all! Edited February 3 by Andrew Rhodes 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhonoBrainer 2,000 Posted January 12 It's got rock writing chops, I liked the guitar, and the smooth and nicely intune doubled vocals! I'm missing bass guitar in the mix, is there one? For the genre, that's mandatory, I believe? the drums have excellent fills, love the hi hats and fast cymbals. The snare and barely-there kick drum need to be put through the biggerizer a few times. Guitar tones and performances were killer! And with those excellent vocals, you've got something to build better low drums and bass around. Very. Cool. Song. cheers, -Tom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bajan Blue 1,389 Posted January 12 6 hours ago, PhonoBrainer said: It's got rock writing chops, I liked the guitar, and the smooth and nicely intune doubled vocals! I'm missing bass guitar in the mix, is there one? For the genre, that's mandatory, I believe? the drums have excellent fills, love the hi hats and fast cymbals. The snare and barely-there kick drum need to be put through the biggerizer a few times. Guitar tones and performances were killer! And with those excellent vocals, you've got something to build better low drums and bass around. Very. Cool. Song. cheers, -Tom what Tom said!! Definitely needs Bass and some work on the drums, then I think you've got a really good track here Cool Nigel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark skinner 849 Posted January 12 Andrew , Nice start on a killer song ! I also agree with Tom. You've a smooth mix here , but I think you are being a little conservitive and I think it needs to be a little more "edgy". I really like the "loose skins" snare but think a little crack in them would help also. For me , besides the kick/bass I think it would be improved with some gain and highs. Just my 2 cents on this one. Enjoyed it .. mark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freddy j 714 Posted January 17 Great start. You have some good lyrics and the timing of the vocals matches the instrumentation well. I have to agree with the comments above -- a driving bass and a bit more edge would really give this song a great edge to it. Nice one!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSband 431 Posted January 17 Agree with everyone, great sounding song but the bass is missing. Guitars sound really good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesse Screed 920 Posted January 18 It is a great time to be alive! sipping on your your fever tree? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeeringAmps 2,055 Posted January 18 On 1/11/2023 at 8:23 PM, PhonoBrainer said: rock writing chops, Without a doubt! But (there's always a but), that lead guitar is a little (a lot) "toppy" (fizzy) to my ear. I'd look at what you're using as the amp sim. What cab emulation are you using? Pretty much the vast majority of "holy grail" speakers roll off sharply at around 5k; my guess is this is not. Just my nickel98, take it with a grain of salt; free advice is worth exactly what you've paid for it... t and please don't take that as I did not enjoy your work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Rhodes 30 Posted January 23 (edited) Thank you for all the comments guys, much appreciated! It's always good to get other thoughts - after a while listening to a song over and over makes you miss things. So, I'd like your comments on the following. @PhonoBrainer @Bajan Blue The drums - I'm using AD2 drums, all one track, and common effects. Are we saying it might be better to separate the bass drum and snare and process them individually? The bass - it follows the guitar riff and so merges with it. When I was listening, I did think where is the bass? So I muted the bass and played the track, and found it did add quite a bit to the overall sound. However, looks like I might need to eq the bass more, maybe add some distortion to make it stand out a bit more? Alternatively, re- do the bass line so it doesn't follow the guitar riff - would that be better? @freddy j mentions a bit more "edge" - how would you do that? @DeeringAmps Guitar solo - I used my trusty Behringer Vamp3 for it, cheap but I really do like it. Ill try to add some additional eq or even cab sim. I'm on hols at moment, but will have another go when I return. Look forward to your further insights and infinite wisdom! Thank you! Edited January 24 by Andrew Rhodes 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhonoBrainer 2,000 Posted January 24 Hey Andrew, great Q's! Could you share what you are mixing and monitoring this baby on? What speakers or headphones are you using? And the wisdom is so very finite . . . 😩 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Rhodes 30 Posted January 25 Hi @PhonoBrainer For final mixing I use PreSonus Eris E5 monitors. Eq is mostly done using blindfold EQ and Soundspot Paradox. By no means top stuff, but suits my needs at the moment. I am knocking on a bit 🙂 so my HF hearing is probably limited! Might explain my "toppy" guitar solo @DeeringAmps 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyB01 529 Posted January 25 Great rock chops - I can hear the bass but seems a little lost in the mix - not much I can add to what others have said above. All the makings of a great track but - if I'd done this - I'd be pretty pleased with where it's already at. Great job and enjoyed the listen. Andy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Wilby 200 Posted January 25 I too can hear the bass and the kick ... but only just. Great rock song and cool guitar sound though 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freddy j 714 Posted January 29 Please take my comments as only suggestions. It is your song - you know what you were looking for and besides it is a good rock song as is. In agreement with some of the comments above, I had a wee bit of trouble hearing the bass guitar. Bringing this up a bit more would add more of a bottom to the song. The guitars (good playing BTW) might add to the edgy-ness, with a bit more of a driven bass sound. If that is not what you were looking for --- then I was wrong. I enjoyed the listen!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Rhodes 30 Posted January 30 Thanks for all the suggestions @PhonoBrainer @Bajan Blue @mark skinner @freddy j @DeeringAmps and others! It has been very helpful. I have re-mixed the track - now V2 (edited the first post). See what you think. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Bush 344 Posted January 31 Great guitar tone , bass is a little too low ... but a super rock song great vocals liked the delay efects on the guitar ..nice one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve@baselines.com 399 Posted February 1 You can hear the upgrade in the new mix. Cheers! Good work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
