aidan o driscoll

BTW - MAGIX MUSIC MAKER 2022 PREMIUM is also included. I will have to fess up and say I have never used it and have not heard of anyone else using/trying it. Anyone here had a go at it? I realise its starter type thing, but even at that, any good??

A few thoughts @PavlovsCat .. this bundle has the relatively latest versions of the excellent Soundforge Pro + Vegas Pro 19 ( newest is 21 ).

For €23 it would be a thing of nothing and a sound biz investment to at least buy these licenses which means:

1. You can use them at a future stage if not now
2. You will always then have the ability to upgrade cheaper going forward rather than buying new
3. €23 will not break your businesses bank, still can buy other more expensive software if you like. To find one that suits YOU means you will still need to try out the various software apps, no way around that. Everyone has different tastes

Sound Forge is a Pro audacity and really has been around the longest of most Audio editors. As others said Vegas started as an Audio DAW back in the 90s and them mushroomed into a full fledged Video editing app but has that DAW feel to it that most of us here come from. I dont gthink it would take you too long to get a handle on this & from a biz perspective €23 for what uaually would be a far more expensive app is not a bad decision

1 hour ago, Zoukiman said:

Anyone who knows the upgrade price from Vegas Pro 19 Edit to the latest 21 then? 🙂

The BF Sale prices still there so Vegas Pro edit 21 ( which is just Vegas pro w/o extras ) is €149 to buy out right

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/ie/sale/

Looks like the upgr prices are the same as full price at mo for BF period

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/ie/upgrades-for-vegas-pro-and-vegas-movie-studio/

32 minutes ago, PavlovsCat said:

I'm looking at video editing software right now. Any opinions on the various options for Windows. I'm looking at CyberLink PowerDirector Ultimate. 

@PavlovsCat Vegas pro in this bundle IS a video editing package, a pro one at that

6 minutes ago, Sistine said:

I would prefer the pints to the updates, really! 😄 

There are so many updates that give more trouble and pain than joy IMHO. But YMMV! 😉

I use and have been using Soundforge and Vegas pro from the 90s I would say. So good deal for me .. def better than 4 pints which I get from the offy any way rather than pub .. craft beers and IPAs etc

Excellent .. waiting patiently for this. I have SF Pro 13 and Vegas Pro 18 Edit .. so a decent upgrade on both for price of about 3-4 pints

Musk on AGI - artificial general intelligence  - video at link below

https://twitter.com/krassenstein/status/1730001789137633281

Elon Musk has just stated at the DealBook summit that artificial general intelligence (AGI) is only about three years away. He also stated that he thinks that Open AI discovered something possibly dangerous or alarming and that is why Sam Altman was fired.

Maybe THIS is the reason we NEED AI? Up to now I was thinking AI would make us this way taking away our faculties but maybe not, maybe AI is needed to support us because idiocracy is already here ..

3 minutes ago, craigb said:

Definitely.

Our world IS turning into this 
 

1 minute ago, craigb said:

Time for everyone to wake up and start questioning EVERYTHING!

Net result of that is you can never believe in anything going forward, even your own beliefs should be questioned and potentially unbelieved / a lie in that case?

19 hours ago, craigb said:

The programmed sheep won't believe any of this, but that will be their problem later.

https://rumble.com/v3vxswk-david-icke-predicts-whats-coming-next....html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke

Interesting read - BIG BROTHER made real

"Facial recognition firm Clearview AI says it will soon have 100 BILLION photos in its database to ensure 'almost everyone in the world will be identifiable' and wants to expand beyond law enforcement"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10523739/Clearview-AI-seeking-100-billion-photos-facial-recognition-database.html

This is where the problems start:

"Clearview fills its database by scouring sources like Facebook, YouTube, Venmo and millions of other sites, according to the company."

Further down article they go into the privacy issues in all this and many countries / agencies not at all happy with this. BUT my first thought is even if demands are made at Clearview AI to remove these images who knows if they would, the database of 100 billion images is already created it seems, just go under ground.

I know the saying where social media is concerned - "YOU ARE THE PRODUCT" - but i dont think legally that extends to companies scraping data from soc media to use without any form of permission

Nothing and proud of it .. biggest BF savings I ever had 

55 minutes ago, BTP said:

I forgot about this. There's a demo with 21 presets available:

https://www.polychromedsp.com/mcrocklin-suite/#section-1432-18

Yes, been noodling with demo, nice

More in depth review of this:
 

So here is McRocklin Suite: Is it an alt replacement for likes of GUITAR RIG etc? TBH I had never heard of this ( as a guitarist )  .. ( @ZincT @craigb )

https://www.polychromedsp.com

And here is a review vid:

He plays a piece about 6 mins in with a real JOURNEY Neil Schon type solo sound

Im seeing mention that this is a SOOTH alt ...

On AI subject 

"Aitana, an exuberant 25-year-old pink-haired woman from Barcelona, receives weekly private messages from celebrities asking her out. But this model is not real, she was created by her designers using AI."

https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/11/22/meet-the-first-spanish-ai-model-earning-up-to-10000-per-month

I know we can be glib about this BUT do any of ye REALLY KNOW whats going on with AI development? When a while back many top scientists got together to warn the world of AI dev inc Musk & many others.

When i read this part:

"Several staff researchers sent the board of directors a letter warning of a powerful artificial intelligence discovery that they said could threaten humanity"

When i saw this I felt real scared, as if I was watching a scifi movie but this time its real. I even checked in my head was it april 1st.

The big thing for me is who has, will get there hands on tech like this and do what with it? It will not be restricted to Governments and countries. To me it sounds very dystopian IN REALITY.

Its the first I heard of Q * ( Star ) AND artificial general intelligence (AGI). The latter being a next level above AI, the ultimate frontier it seems

Elon Musk today tweeted 2 words  "Extremely concerning!" and then THIS REUTERS ARTICLE

https://www.reuters.com/technology/sam-altmans-ouster-openai-was-precipitated-by-letter-board-about-ai-breakthrough-2023-11-22/

I tend to agree .. when I read it, I had to read it again thinking was this for real. Here are 3 paragraphs that should scare you:

Ahead of OpenAI CEO Sam Altman’s four days in exile, several staff researchers sent the board of directors a letter warning of a powerful artificial intelligence discovery that they said could threaten humanity, two people familiar with the matter told Reuters.

.. a letter about the AI breakthrough called Q* (pronounced Q-Star), precipitated the board's actions.

The maker of ChatGPT had made progress on Q*, which some internally believe could be a breakthrough in the startup's search for superintelligence, also known as artificial general intelligence (AGI), one of the people told Reuters. OpenAI defines AGI as AI systems that are smarter than humans.

I know we all have made jokes about AI and likes of dystopian Terminator type future, but this is no joke. How far have we gone with this thing even now? How much do we not know?  What if this gets into the wrong hands .. what if it is already in the wrong hands? This is very serious

1 hour ago, MrFigg said:

Yep. First the price is on £s (which is more in €s) and then the VAT on top of that.

That said there's a whole load of sites that don't mention the VAT on top of the advertised price until you get to checkout.

@MrFigg Compared to IK MULTIMEDIA SAMPLETRON 2 over at JRRSHOP in $$$$, no VAT mentioned ... $39.99 ... use GROUP Coupon and its $33.59 OR €30.87 

IK MULTIMEDIA SYNTRONIK MAX V2 is available at JRRSHOP for $39.99 vs $199. Add the GROUP coupon and its $33.59 

https://www.jrrshop.com/ik-multimedia-syntronik-2-max

Over at IK, more detail - https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/syntronik2/?pkey=syntronik-2-max-v2

Syntronik 2 has 22 synths. Syntronik 2 MAX V2 has 34 synths. Check link above under VERSIONS and then Compare for lists

On 11/21/2023 at 11:30 AM, MusicMan said:

A time-limited upgrade offer to M-Tron Pro IV.

For a limited time, you can upgrade to M-Tron Pro IV for just £29.99 (+VAT). An automatic discount is applied in your Basket in our shop ( Once logged in and already own MTron LE/Select. )

https://www.gforcesoftware.com/products/m-tron-pro-iv/

FYI, inc VAT in EURO thats €42.30 .. still good value vs full price though  ( the 29.99 figure looks nice but no with VAT and exchange rate  ) 

2 hours ago, Patrick Wichrowski said:

Too late. I've got IK Multimedia SampleTron 2 yesterday. 

Yip .. its €39

https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/sampletron2/

Jam points my end dont seem to work, but probably as its on sale

6 minutes ago, MrFigg said:

I have LE registered. I can get M-Tron for £29.99. I don't see an offer for Dust-o-Tron

Yeah - Dust-o-Tron is a seperate paid for expansion pack:

https://www.gforcesoftware.com/products/dust-o-tron/