Tom B

I've also observed the ThreadScheduling is Processor/OS dependent. On my  i7-12700K Win10 system, I experienced dropouts, late buffers, etc.  Changing the "ThreadSchedulingModel = 3" fixed the issues. On my old i7-950 system, ThreadSchedulingModel 3  causes dropouts, and Model 2 works the best.

1 hour ago, jesse g said:

Focusrite explained to me the following,  "Note that the OctoPre only has ADAT OUT ports on it, so it won't be able to receive any incoming signal from the 18i20. The line outputs of the Scarlett OctoPre are designed to mirror whatever is connected to the front panel respectively. I'd recommend looking into the Scarlett OctoPre Dynamic since this will offer more I/O expansion for your setup"  

 I understand the OctoPre doesn't have an ADAT input.  I didn't realize that the OctoPre actually has analog outputs. Thanks for the clarification. One would think the interface would  have digital access to those outputs using an ADAT input! 

 When I saw your post about the odd sounds heard when connecting external HW to the OctoPre, it reminded me of clocking issues that can occur when using analog I/O between two digitally connected interfaces via ADAT optical.  My post about this topic may not be relevant to what you described.

It will be interesting to hear what solution you choose for the expansion. 

On 3/21/2024 at 1:01 PM, jesse g said:

I was using a Samson S Patch patchbay and had everything connected and working using my Scarlett 18i20.   I then switch a few hardware pieces to my  Scarlett Octopre I/O's that were connected  via ADAT and I started to receive noises like someone was gargling.   However,  when I connect my microphones to use the inputs, no problem at all.  When I connect hardware to the I/O's  then strange noises  are heard and my audio is not being sent or received from the OctoPre. 

It seems like there's a clock synchronization issue when connecting your external HW components.  Wanted to make sure I understand your setup:  Are the HW components receiving analog signals from the 18i20 and returning signals to the OctoPre inputs?  Does your 18i20 have a word clock output BNC connector (that may depend on the 18i20 version).

I'm using an RME UFX as my primary interface and have an older MOTU interface connected via ADAT light-pipe to receive 8 extra inputs. I believe this similar to what you're doing too.  In addition, I have the clocks between the interfaces synchronized using the word clock BNC connectors on the units. I see the OctoPre has external clock synchronization, but it's unclear to me which 18i20 generations have that feature.  If your 18i20 has that feature, I can elaborate a bit more.

The ADAT optical connections are somewhat self-synchronizing, but can be problematic in some scenarios. This  might explain your success with microphone inputs vis-à-vis the analog HW effects loops.
 

9 hours ago, TheSteven said:

The problem is that Cakewalk's VST scanner doesn't detect that anything has changed with this update because the new folder name is same as the plugin name so it doesn't update the registry listings.  When Cakewalk later goes to access the plugin it hits the folder not the plugin and it fails to load. 

This is a timely post.  When I tried to insert a TONEX plugin, CbB displayed the  "... plug-in failed to load (80004002)..." error.  The path for TONEX is:  
C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\TONEX.vst3\Contents\x86_64-win\TONEX.vst3 . 
"TONEX.vst3" is the DLL name and is part of the file path too.   

I used the registry trick to clear things out. Then did a VST rescan, and it fixed the problem. 

I updated my Eventide H9 plugin bundle.  Of course, it has the same error others have encountered.  I'll try your temporary move suggestion to fix this these plugins.

Hopefully  the Cakewalk Bakers are aware of this issue.

Thanks for the tip!     

There are a couple of free captures of a Trainwreck Express M25  by Tone Junkie.  Search for:  TJ Twreck Express   on ToneNet.

One of the captures uses a 4X12 Greenback cab. The tone leans toward a Marshall  with Greenbacks.  Haven't played a real Trainwreck and don't know if the sound is authentic. 

Edit: I listened to TJ YouTube video for this amp.  For my needs, I found the capture sounded a bit better with a slightly lowered input signal (using humbuckers).  It still has a nice grind.

Received an e-mail from Arturia with an "exclusive" offer to upgrade from  V8 to VX for $299.  That will  exclude me from upgrading anytime soon!

Oops! Meant to post in the other thread about  the VX release.
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If you're running on an Intel 12th or 13th generation processor,  this post by @Jim Roseberry discusses why migrating from Win10  to Win11 can be beneficial:

Same here yesterday and today (early afternoon California).  It's really slow.  I'm seeing a lot of  "error 500" notifications (time-out) and other connection errors.   

Edit: Interestingly, I've seen the speed return to normal for a while during the same time of day.  

51 minutes ago, kevin H said:

Not sure if it’s because I bought UAD Manley VoxBox yesterday but for me from UAD site Manley Tube shows up for $49 without needing any discount codes.

https://www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/channel-strips/manley-tube-preamp.html

I'm seeing the Manley Tube Preamp on the UAD site for $74. I don't own any UAD Manley plugins. Guessing your right about getting a discount for buying both during the deal on the VoxBox .  

Same here ... after upgrading to 2022.11 (gear specs in my signature), I also experienced some dropouts, late buffers, etc.  Changing the "ThreadSchedulingModel = 3" fixed the issues.  I had it set to 2 for the 2022.06 release, and it ran fine. 

1 hour ago, Starship Krupa said:

BTW, here's a picture of a square wave, generated by MOscilllator and read by MOscilloscope, both in the same FX bin in Cakewalk. MOscillator is set (internally) to 4X oversampling:

Anyone care to enlighten me as to why I see what looks like ringing?

Haven't thought about DSP theory in a while.  However, this looks like Gibb's Phenomenon.  In this case, it seems like an artifact of FIR filtering around transients in the square wave.  I would guess there is a steep filter being applied to the waveform somewhere in the digital signal path. There are other possibilities too (e.g. windowing functions, etc).  Gibb's can also be seen when summing harmonics of the Fourier Series -- especially around transients.

BTW ...  FIR filters are based on Fourier Transforms, Convolution, IRs, etc. This is the subject of chapters in DSP books.

Edit: Just saw the replies from Bruno de Souza Lino and  OutrageProductions.   Good info from both.

1 hour ago, Sidney Earl Goodroe said:

I'm having a brain fart!! Where is the IKM download folder? I use to back it up but have neglected to do so for a while. 

I  believe the IKM installation files are here:  C:\Users\<your user name>\Documents\IK Multimedia\IK Product Manager\    
I navigated to that location using the File Explorer starting in the "Documents" folder.  There are subfolders for each product. 

8 hours ago, John Bradley said:

I'm positive that in earlier versions of Nectar 3 when you adjusted the per-module wet-dry mix sliders, it would temporarily (during the drag) replace the word "Mix" with a numeric value (0-100) showing you precisely what the wet-dry mix was set at.

It no longer does that - at least on my machine - with whatever the most recent update was, and I can find no mention of this anywhere.

Running v3.8.0.1126.WIN64.VST3

Have I gone mad, or has this dubious bit of 'progress' been foisted on everybody?

I'm running a prior version:  Nectar 3 Plus 3.7.0.  It replaces the word "Mix" with  a numeric value (0-100) while dragging -- just as you wrote above.  Assuming you're running "Nectar 3 Plus" too.  Seems like a regression in the newer version.  

3 hours ago, Esteban Villanova said:

1, 3, 2, IMO.

1, 3, 2  is what I chose too.  I haven't looked at the results yet.  I'm not much of a keyboardist, but appreciate the variety of types and sounds.

Is the TONEX Capture "Line Input" balanced -or- unbalanced?  I tried looking for documentation for the TONEX Capture box on the IK site, but couldn't find technical specifications.

20 hours ago, Max Arwood said:

I have been using WLM+ for years. I have auto save enabled and I do not have the problem you are talking about. I use it on every project. That is strange to me. I’m pretty sure it is the VST3 version. Which waves version do you have 12? 13?

In the past, WLM+ worked fine for me on Cakewalk with 'auto-save' enabled.  At that time, Waves V12 or V13  was installed.  A couple of weeks ago, I installed Waves V14 on both my DAWs. I hadn't used WLM+ for a while.  It was El Diablo's post which prompted me to try WLM+ (VST3) and that's when I saw the issue too. 

Confirmed the Wave's WLM Loudness Meter auto-save problem on Cakewalk -and- confirmed  @Starship Krupa 's work-around!   

I added the "WLM Plus (stereo) Loudness Meter" to two separate projects on separate DAWS.  At first, I didn't see the issue. Then, I added the WLM plugin to a different project on my old DAW, and the auto-save occurred at a high-rate and virtually froze Cakewalk. The difference between the two:  On the Cakewalk DAW without the problem (new computer), I had not enabled Auto-Save (i.e.  minutes =0 and changes = 0) .  The problem immediately appeared when I set Auto-save changes = 30.

@El Diablo  please try Starship Krupa's suggestion.  BTW, I'm still on Cakewalk revision 2022.02.  All my Waves plugins are at Rev 14. 

I hadn't encountered this type auto-update issue with Waves or any other plug-in. 

14 minutes ago, jesse g said:

Still waiting on the Fall Windows delivery.

Me too!  Hopefully, now that UAD has released Spark for native Apple M1, the focus will shift to the Windows version.

1 hour ago, abacab said:

I saw a discussion of the GS-V issues over on the KVR forums. It appears that the issue is related to not all of the zip files are installed. But since I passed on GS-V, I have no details to share on the fix here...

I was considered skipping the GS-V too given it's appx 30GB, but decided to try it out. I'm going to manually install the missing files per Jacques' suggestion. Hopefully, there isn't something else missing that would require downloading it again!

6 minutes ago, Jacques Boileau said:

Ok, found the problem. For some reason one of the part files does not get automatically installed. The file is 'SYN2_GS-V_Part_4.zip'. It is the one containing the needed samples. I copied the samples from that zip file to the 'Samples/Syntronik GS-V' and the preset you mentioned loads. All the samples from that zip where missing.

@Peter - IK Multimedia This info is also pertinent to communicate to the devs. Thanks!

Thanks!  I now see those missing "pak" files in "SYN2_GS-V_Part_4.zip" (installation file).   I'm going to try copying over too.   

Thanks for confirming Jacques     ( @Jacques Boileau ).

All three of the GS-V "Funky Wah ..." instruments generate the error.  I found a couple others which also reference the missing "GS-V Funk Piano.pak."

The "GS-V Harpischord I.pak"   is missing too.

I've been trying out the GS-V.  Unfortunately,  a handful of instrument presets generate the dreaded "Instrument ST4 Error.  Cannot locate Tank ..."  message.

For example, when I select "Funky Amped Wha E piano 1" ,  this error message pops up:

"Instrument ST4 Error. Cannot locate Tank at path 'G:/AudioSamples/Syntronik 2/Samples/Syntronik GS-V/GS-V Funk Piano/GS-V Funk Piano.pak'.
    ''G:/AudioSamples/Syntronik 2" is where the Syntronik 2 synths are located on my DAW.

I thought it was the same installation problem as "Syner V".  However, I can't find the missing 'GS-V Funk Piano.pak' in any of the usual suspect locations.

If someone has installed the (massive) GS-V,  would you verify the "GS-V Funk Piano.pak" will load.  I'm using the Syntronik 2 stand-alone app.

Additional missing files:
GS-V Harpischord I.pak   used by the "FM Harpsichord"  instrument presets.

7 minutes ago, Kurre said:

Ok. My fault.

I associate spdif with toslink.

Coaxial is  just digital signal for me without further clasification.

With that difference i never have the kind of misunderstanding we have here.

It can be really confusing since there's so much nomenclature and conflicting use of terminology. I (and certainly others) have experienced this at various times during our gear quests.  😀     It's all good! 

10 hours ago, Kurre said:

S/PDIF and coaxial are two different connectors for digital signals.

Coaxial uses digital signals thru metal threads. Even if it can use the same cables as analog audio the signal could not be used by analog gear.

S/PDIF uses digitals signals converted to laserlight thru fiberoptics. No likeness to analog gear.

Posts above was unclear about the difference and use.

You can NOT connect a coaxial output to a S/PDIF input.

S/PDIF is defined to use either fiber optic or coaxial cable (with RCA connectors) to transmit the digital signal. This is part of the S/PDIF specification.
It's a design choice by the manufacturer.  

This Wikipedia article  S/PDIF description has more information.   

The good news is the OP is getting  proper coaxial cables (with RCA connectors) to connect the gear. 🙂 I hope to hear back about on how it went.