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Windows predated OS/2 by a bunch. I was around early enough to see it happen. Microsoft was an OS/2 development partner if not the lead until there was a parting of the ways with IBM. Early Windows ran MS-DOS/PC-DOS command line programs (with command.com shell). It is unsurprising that OS/2 command line operation was comparable-to/compatible-with that of Windows. I was at an event in NYC in the late 80s where there was an IBM-Microsoft Kumbaya event around Windows 2.03, celebrating that Windows would continue along with OS/2 (which was yet to ship). But Windows NT was the definitive visible break and then there was alignment of consumer Windows at Windows XP as I recall, with full x64 at Windows 7 (or maybe Vista) and the NT designation vanished. There's a pretty reliable account at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows Underlying the break was the connection between OS/2 and IBM's effort to close the hardware with the introduction of the PS/2 and MCA architecture. Of course they would have a way to run Windows programs. Thanks to the efforts of Compaq, Microsoft, Intel, and others, the open PC/AT architecture was extended to meet that challenge. This Wintel arrangement also assured a platform for Linux, something even IBM now supports on some of their systems. There were some significant miss-steps when some software providers were incentivized to develop for one of OS/2 or Windows first. Lotus 1-2-3 got burned going for OS/2 and they never recovered against Excel (and for a time, Quadro Pro). It's unclear where WordPerfect dropped a stitch although it might have had to do with an Apple-IBM attack on Microsoft Office. Borland got caught somewhere in the middle around getting quickly into Windows although I saw no evidence they were distracted by OS/2. There was a Borland-Microsoft Kumbaya at the 1992 Windows NT and Win32-APIs announcement event in San Francisco. Looking back, all of those moves seem rather medieval. A technological age of empires :).

That's not exactly a good way to satisfy investors and the owners, and the opportunity costs are pretty high for such a deviation of resources (along with the management distraction).

This may be an accessibility problem for the Cakewalk Discuss. The 3 dots have tool-tip "More options ..." and are in the upper-right border of the individual post, such as the one I am replying to. It is just past the button labelled "Author." Oh, sorry, that button isn't shown on posts of your own. But the dots are there. The options that are listed are Report, Share, and Edit. Edit appears only to the author. I don't know how voice assistants interact and cannot be more helpful than that. There's no indication of keyboard shortcuts. I can tab to the "More options..." but I don't know how you work through the pop-up list of options.

I had to smile when I saw this. When I was involved with Apache OpenOffice, we had this never-ending unresolved issue from Word Perfect folks who wanted the WP feature for controlling things like spans of bold, italic, etc. They kept explaining what it was like on the WP UI and how simple it should be. But of course the kind of styling (not unlike HTML CSS) in ODF ODF and all OpenOffice.org clones just doesn't have that conceptual model, although Microsoft Word sort of does. Oddly, Microsoft FrontPage did have a nice way of making hierarchical controls visible to the user and editable. (I should say does have it, since I am still running it. But then I also have a Toshiba laptop running Windows XP Tablet Edition.) I remember the Amiga advocacy. I smile about that, and am proud of having built my Heathkit CP/M machines. I don't miss them though. Perhaps the strangest case, though, were the folks whose first programming language was Postscript.

I messaged you here. Did you get it, not check for it"

John, I sent you an invite to the Cakewalk Next Discord server.

I've been watching these comments, but CbB had never asked me to sign in, until it did tonight. In the Help | Sign in to Bandlab, it all worked just fine as Noel said. I can't say whether or not there is a defect in this process, since it doesn't reproduce for me. I agree that "works for me" is not a demonstration. Makes it difficult though.

Me too. My C Drive is a too-small SSD. I do much better with my 2TB HDD and best of all, a 1TB SSD that I install large things to. In the old days, there were installers that contained drive dependencies. It seems that nowadays, if you tell an installer to put something elsewhere, it will work great. Also, the Cakewalk Product Center recognizes my installation of CbB on that larger SSD. (It's peculiar that CPC shows up as a synth instrument in CbB and SPLAT though.) A number of default folders can actually be moved to a different drive. I do that with Documents and Pictures. Unfortunately, no such luck with AppData, I suppose because it is per user. Hmm, maybe user can be moved. That would be interesting. (No dice. )

Seeing this topic and the complaints, I opened Network Access and let it update. Afterwards I did the two updates that were available. The updates, including for Kontakt 7, worked fine. My list of 171 items (?!) comes up near-instantly. There were no difficulties on my pretty standard Windows 10 desktop system. Scrolling through the EULA, it was fascinating to see all of the 3rd party license notifications. So my own anecdotal experience is of a mature, stable product. Much different than the Cakewalk Product Center which doesn't seem to do much so far and appears in my SPLAT (2017.10) and CbB (2024.02) as a plug-in under Instruments/Synth [;<: ).

It's also easier than waiting for an SMS (or an e-mail) to arrive and then type in a code. With a 2FA app on a phone, its Soundcloud tab will automatically produce the number that needs to be entered. No waiting. And if you take too long, just enter the next number that comes up on the App. The single 2FA app will also work with any number of accounts that offer it. I have 14 on mine and it works for a number of accounts that are important to me, including Ubisoft, GitHub, Discord, etc. Also, each account provides a list of backup codes that you can keep somewhere (off your phone or wherever you have the 2FA app). This helps if your phone fails or you lose it. Another advantage for me is that I don't have to keep lots of passwords around, although I do have a password safe on my desktop PC. And I use a password generator there, so the passwords are a bit long and not memorable. I have memorized very few passwords.

I looked around all over here and I could not find that statement. I do understand that 2023.09 was the last planned update of Cakewalk by BandLab. But I could find nothing about downloads going unavailable. There was a short time when it was a bit difficult to find them, but they are still available. I don't think Cakewalk.next is a replacement and I have no idea where Sonar.next is on the horizon. I also don't understand comments about time limits on CwB. Mine is activated and there's no indication that a re-activation is required at any time in the future. The `Help | About Cakewalk...` just provides a "CBCO-1.00-..." serial and says "Activated by Cakewalk." I did sign in to BandLab as part of first-run. (I still have my original Cakewalk account, but I don't think that has anything to do with this.)

What's the authority of that statement?

I'm betting (not much) that Cakewalk for Bandlab will not expire. It may not receive any further updates, but it will sit there nicely being room-mates with lagacy.SONAR and then Sonar.next. I don't think Cakewalk.next getting to a full-up stable release will impact that.

Yes, when I finally replace my ancient (in audio years) Komplete Audio 6, I have my eye on this one.

Oh, sorry. I took the challenge as applying here.