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Installed Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio ( checking it out for Neice ) .. no 7500 loops, even though it says so at the HB page on this bundle

Very nice track x2

So this seems to have A current version of MIXCRAFT ( 9 ). 2 versions: - Mixcraft 8 Home Studio - Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio I note at the site they have 2 versions for sale - - Mixcraft 9 PRO Studio - Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio Just curious, it looks like they dumped the HOME STUDIO? So as a matter of interest ( judging by comparison tween PRO and RECORDING at the mixcraft site: https://acoustica.com/mixcraft/compare-chart Which would be better to try in the HB - Mixcraft 8 Home Studio or Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio - feature wise? ( This is more a curious Q as i most likely wont be trying them for a good while, too much otherstuff going on music software wise .. but my niece is showing an interest so I was thinking for her )

@ZincT Have you tried the built in 8 track yet, auditioning samples together to build a track .. Chop & Slice them, effect them, pitch shift etc while picking up the tempo from CW. Then drag drop to CW. Really nice. This vid from that Beatport remix competition I entered last night really shows this in action:

It also has AAX plugin version. The loopcloud app installs as a standalone program. The VSTs / AAX plugins are the bridge connecting your DAW to the loopcloud app which in turn is connected to the cloud

Indeed .. but loopmasters have been around for as long as I remember. There is nothing to stop you from downloading all your samples either. In the loopcloud app just go to your cloud library and right click on the folders of your sample libraries there, in the drop menu is download samples to your puter.

The plugins and app will work in any DAW via regular vsts.

And @Dzilizzi .. it may seem Im drifting away from this threads topic I started with but in fact its part of the solution which I sort of now have answered for myself via my cheering on of Loopcloud No need to clutter your local drive with samples in fact, use the cloud storage and features of Loopcloud as a solution in that regard so to speak. I took out the 10 quid a month sub because I could see all that plus alot more as described above. What I didnt realise also was any past or new sample packs you might have bought or for free if you had an account with Loopmasters will auto appear in your loopcloud library tab, and the point here is YOU DO NOT need to download these packs, just use them from your cloud account when you need them.

The organiser as you call it is the Loopcloud app thats installed on your computer, but its much more than an organiser. It is also an online 8 track DAW where you can mix/match and audition samples together before committing to purchase if they are not free. You also can chop, pitch shift, effect and stretch samples there all before dragging and dropping to CW. The app with the loopcloud VST inside CW also takes the tempo of the project you are running in CW. It gives you access to all the samples at loopmasters which you can buy individually or as packs ( paid for by points that you get if you run with a monthly sub ). HOWEVER you have 30 days trial FREE. After that do not pay another dime and just keep the Loopcloud app and vsts installed which as I said will work away with the large amount of free content you get left in the cloud while you do the 30 day trial. You also get a few hundred free points during your 30 day trial to "buy" some samples. You really have to try the app, the vsts and the integration with Cakewalk to get the idea properly. As i also said the app indexes your local samples on your harddrive as an option, up to you.

@Dzilizzi As I said on page one .. I will say it again. Where organisation of loops and samples is concerned go try LOOPCLOUD. It has a free 30 day trial and the app / plugins that come with it work on even if you dont opt for a sub. The loopcloud app optionally indexes all your sample packs that you may have on your local harddrive. The apps filtering system I find is great and works seamlessly with your local samples + your purchased loopcloud samples + your purchased loopmasters samples ( latter 2 in the cloud ). The loopcloud app is also an online 8 track DAW that works with your DAW via plugins. So if you have a project going in CW with tracks in already from vsts etc but want a sample loop for one of the tracks, load up the loopcloud vst, switch over to loopcloud app and start loading samples live audition from the cloud to play along with your project until you find THE sample that suits your project. At that point you can drag / drop it into CW track. If you opt for a sub .. each month you mount up points to buy individual samples or packs .. most samples are pretty much 1 point. The other thing you also have with a sub is that in each 24 hour period you can download up to 25 FREE samples ( depends on plan you pick ) .. literally every day. Thats alot of samples. I cannot stress the ease of this, the organising features and tbh the creativity it brings to the table. I dont think you will ever need to buy a sample pack elsewhere ever again. AND if you do buy anything from Loopmasters website ( who own loopcloud ) .. it automatically appears in your loopcloud app, so you dont have to download these purchases either.

Of course .. another possible way of doing this is instead of using ext usb drives to store the sample packs etc one could put them all on an older unused PC and centraly store there .. accessing over a peer to peer network? Would that be quick enough vs USB Drive?

Over the years I have simply amassed 1000s of samples in sample packs, bought them, kept free ones I liked and all that. Up to now I have kept them all on my harddrives in System but now I am going to move them all to ext USB Drive because I will not be using all of them all of the time. I would like to audition them from the USB drive and only use the ones I want to rather than cluttering my HD with GBs of stuff not used regularly. Of course I AM NOT talking of Kontakt and the like here, its literally just the sample packs with loops and one shots and the like

Then without fail @Magic Russ I highly recommend you give LOOPCLOUD a go. You get 30 days free and then if you continue its about a tenner a month or less. Even if you dont sub after the month you get to keep and can use all the welcome sample packs, GBs of, in your loopcloud account. You can also set the loopcloud app to "document"/ Index all your sample folders on your local harddrive. Then you use the loopcloud app to find samples of a particular kind, filtering by KEY, Tempo, type etc. Its brilliant. Seemlessly ties together your cloud and local samples all accessible then via loopcloud plugin inside CW. AND you can audition samples without commiting, trying them live with your CW track and at the correct tempo/pitched until you find the right one.

Ok .. but you could audition from the USB drive via CW MEDIA over the right ??? Once auditioned from the USB drive in MEDIA, what does the action of dragging the sample from there to a track do then? Say in a new project? Is it in memory or temp folder somewhere until you save the project?

However this is what I am finding great about LOOPCLOUD. All my purchased sample packs and one shots from Loopcloud and Loopmasters are in my account and displayed in my Library inside Loopcloud app. Loopcloud app comes with a sort of 8 track DAW functionality where you drag one shot loops / samples too listen too or even compile a loop based track in the 8 tracks, slice and dice etc. Everything up to now is in the cloud, not cluttering your harddrive. So next you drag/drop each of the 8 tracks into CAKEWALK, Now they are on your drive in CW Audio folder when you save. You can also add samples and one shots to those loopcloud 8 tracks and audition them as part of your track in CW before committing them to CW .. playing from the cloud through the loopcloud plugin inside CW. This is the way forward me thinks ..

Thanks guys, What i am talking about is sample packs like from loopmasters and all that .. So 1000's of sample files that you might occasionally use only. Dumping those to an external USB Drive would be fine? and then just drag across the samples you want for a project rather than opening from within CW live?

The amount of space taken up by sample packs on my system harddrives is immense. Larry and others keep adding more and more such things that are just very hard to ignore, especially if free So where do you guys store your samples and sample packs at this stage? On your system drive, a second sample only drive in a system OR on a USB Drive?

https://remix.beatport.com/ This remix challenge has been going for last few weeks. The deadline was 12 midnight last night - PT The stems were given for DJ Harveys track from 2013: I managed to do a remix ALL DONE IN CAKEWALK and using LOOPCLOUD plugins inside CW ( the stems were provided through a Loopcloud sub which is free for a while once you register ( I pay a monthly sub ). I wont add it here yet, I have it on soundcloud PRIVATE, not sure of the copyright on making it public. However i will add here once I clear that up. Anyway after a timeline pressure warts and all I uploded it a few hours before that deadline. I like doing these remix challenges, got for your craft!!

And remember with REASON 11 any flavour you have the rack Plugin that will work inside CW so you never need actually use Reason itself but have access to all the reason instruments/efx in Cakewalk ..

For a few months now I subscribe to Loopcloud monthly and love it too be honest. The loopcloud main app with its DAW type facility and its VST plugins inside CW are great Yesterday i posted here about a sale at Loopclouds parent site LOOPMASTERS: https://www.loopmasters.com/labels/81-HY2ROGEN I got curious because I noticed no drop in Points Amounts to buy these on sale packs via loopcloud vs from the loopmasters link above. SO I emailed Loopmasters wondering do these sales happen across the board at Loopmasters and Loopcloud. I got my reply - The answer is NO. the sales at the moment ONLY happen at the Loopmasters site where you buy the packs with Cash. However on Loopcloud the equivalent pack is not reduced in points value, its the same as it always is. SO for the moment its best to buy these packs at the sale prices at loopmasters instead of using up your Loopcloud points me thinks. The reply did say they are looking at sales type thing inside the Loopcloud environment going forward. At the mo "they cannot reduce the price in points of any products in the Loopcloud Store currently" .. "This is something that is certainly possible for the future, but not currently possible in Loopcloud." I also asked what a POINT in Loopcloud is worth. Here is the answer: "The price of a point is generally ST£0.03 "

@Abhijit Singh Any news? Get your EVO 4 yet?

https://www.loopmasters.com/labels/81-HY2ROGEN# Some nice stuff for cheap here to build up your sample library. Also available in Loopcloud if you have a sub for it. Just bought this with points in loopcloud ( 166 ) https://www.loopmasters.com/genres/25-House/products/11273-1000-Vocal-Shots-Vol-3 ( @Xel Ohh )

@Matthew Sorrels To be honest I have looked at the videos for both here - https://8dio.com/instrument/agitato-sordino-strings-for-kontakt-vst-au-aax/ https://8dio.com/instrument/adagietto-vst-au-aax-kontakt-instruments-samples/ Ok, subtle sound differences maybe, but for a more general user like myself one OR the other is enough .. as in the one I have is the Agitato Sordino Strings and is enough? The UI in both is pretty much the same actually. I also have the Claire Clarinet. But no Flute. On voice / choral front I have Realivox - Blue, Soundiron mercury elements and Olympus elements. If thats enough to cover the choral front OR is it worthh waiting for a sale on an 8DIO choral instrument?

@Matthew Sorrels Turns out in fact that I previously got Agitato Sordino Strings. SO that vs Adagietto Instrument, do I really need Adagietto Instrument also? Will Agitato Sordino Strings cover it? Yes I do fall into the "If you need a string section, especially for non-orchestral stuff -- pop/rock" ..

SO .. the Adagietto Instrument OR Alto Flute Virtuoso ? OR Both