Keni

Ahhh... Now I found my solution. My Thanks to you once again Mark! My problem was that selecting both tracks (I had tried this previously) must be done after selecting the clip(s) to be moved/copied. Selecting the tracks first selects all clips on both tracks and trying to change that selection within the time frame causes only one track to remain selected. The obvious (though not to old man me) was to first select the clips, then add the additional track selection afterwards. Then it worked fine! Whew! Edit: BTW... An oddity I've found. If I select ALL tracks and execute a move, the envelopes do not move with the tracks. My workaround is to deselect the MIDI/Audio track(s) in question and move them in a separate operation. It seems that the track selection is not including the audio track automation envelopes. An easy workaround, but curious as to why this happens. It appears that the volume envelope on the audio track moves, but not the instrument-related midi controller envelope on that track. Obviously I can work around these items, but I guess it's good to make common some of this into for others to find solutions. If I move the instrument pair as a separate operation, both envelopes move together... ...a note though. After a successful move, there are remnants of some of the envelopes left behind. As there are no midi activities in those locations (in this instance) I can easily ignore them if I'm in a hurry but need to remember if more midi events are added in that location... Edit 2: And I am also finding that all envelopes are not responding correctly. When I move Farther awy into time(right) they move correctly leaving remnants. When I move earlier, they did not move all the way???

Thanks Mark! Much appreciated. I think I understand. I will experiment with this info and hopefully learn! ?

First, let me apologize for de-railing this thread. It was unintentional. I thought I was posting in the EA forum. I have no idea what moved me here? Either I did somethng weird or maybe a forum manager? OK... I tried it out of curiosity and as we suspected, it works as expected. Missed a node but that may have been my quickie edit... If I unfreeze, the MIDI is unchanged from it's pre-frozen stuff... So it is that the envelopes are not relating to the midi clips on the related MIDI feed.. I don't remember this dilemma before. OK... I did just find where I can do the MIDI controller on the midi track as I would any other controller (assigned to mod wheel) and I expect moving/copying would work fine there as it becomes part of the clip. The problem exists when assigning midi controllers to envelopes as the envelopes don't record from my kybd's controller there. It does on the audio track. I also just tested that Other than recording the midi event from my keyboard as midi events, I can manually create a proper envelope on the midi track. So it comes down to I can record the performance action only as midi events. I can manually create/edit the envelope on that track but it will not record as an envelope. I can easily adjust to using the midi events for the mod wheel so I can record it on the midi track but it still leaves the problem of the volume envelope on the related audio track. There is no such creature on the midi track, so how to get the envelopes on the audio track to realize that they are connected to the clips on the related midi track? This one's difficult. It means I must manually repeat every edit manually. When the track is frozen they must already be in place and I freeze after a track is complete. So how to get those volume changes to know they are related to the midi clips on the associated track is the problem...

Thanks Jonesey... I thought of that too as a workaround, but I felt so sure this used to work. I haven’t tried it but even that gets complicated if I must repeatedly freeze/un as I shuffle things around. I'm having a bit of a bewildering day myself...

A few things have come to mind. The envelopes not getting copied are on the audio track of a VST instrument. Until it is frown, there are no clipcs on it. The clips being copied are on the associated MIDI track. One envelope is a volume envelope so it's obvious to be on the audio track, but the other is an instrument specific envelope (leslie speed on b3). I cannot get it to record it on the MIDI track and must record it on the audio track... Difficult situation. Especially thinking I now may have to r-do all those changes yet again if I'm not happy with the new arrangement... <sigh>...

Thanks... Yes... I mentioned so... This made my morning session painful. I had to manually re-build a number of envelopes repeatedly as my arrangement was changing...

once again, the PRV Assigned Note names are not sticking. I must reset them every time I open the PRV This was somewhat recently fixed... Reversion?

I just ran into this? Seems EA related as I do this often and this is the first time it's not performing as expected... I have a few virtual instruments and one audio track. I have selected the copy all track envelopes with clips When I drag a group of clips, the envelopes are not being moved with them? I will explore more...

What am I missing? This seems like the Matrix util we've had in Cake dating back to what? Pro Audio or Sonar days. Maybe with some additional talent? I don’t know as I didn’t use Matrix more than cursory exploration...

I use my DAW to get into my HOUWS!

Yeah... I remember being confused about this long ago. I always have loved The Fantastiks.... I even played a role (Mortimer, the British Indian) in a summerstock version of it waaaay back...

Gotcha! No problem !

Thanks, but I disable that monitor in my initial install. So it couldn’t be the problem here which as you read above, has been solved.

All too often.

Yup! That was it... I haven't had a hang all day! Relief at last! ? Thanks everybody!

I can’t yet say it’s resolved but it's back to what has been "normal" here lately. I've found my most important 32 bit hangover suffering with a registration that wouldn’t hold. So it often left a hidden window open awaiting attention. Running out of ideas I thought to open cake as administrator then applied the registration. Early experiments indicate it is now holding the registration and closing has been fine. A little more time with a reboot or two and opening various projects containing this plugin. One day I hope to be rich enough to own a paid copy of Komplete so I could load my favorite Will Lee Gigastudio Bass collection in a 64 bit app. The stuff dreams are made of...

YUP. That’s all there is. Not that he isn’t a lot all by himself, but without "the guys" it’s feeling awful lean. Worst part of this age group!

Thanks. I’ll check it out. Out of interest. I never saw him as a bad guy though I did wish he hadn’t been so set on disbanding The Band.

That was my thought, but it was happening even After simply opening Cake with no project open. Just the empty program. we'll see what it looks like today in a few hours

Thanks. I always have that midi monitor turned off (taskbar tray) and I’m not seeing any ghost drivers..

Ouch! I felt that too! I’m still reading his daily twitter posts. I had no idea. Do you know what he died from ?

Thanks, but check my reply above.

Thanks for the thought, but... Ouch! Way too involved for my nerves right now. I’m using an unusual driver fir my interface. But it's been running fine for months with no changes. My system is shut down right now, but I’m hoping to find things well on next bootup . It closed clean at last before I shut down. just to note. I’m using a Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL and a problem arose with win10 dealing with signed drivers, so important portions of the interface couldn’t work. Fortunately, they came up with a workaround and it requires applying a manual set of edits to accomplish. I’m not ready to open that can of worms at the moment.

I don't know what's going on with this.It has been occasional recently and today it's unceasing! When I close Cakewalk, it's left in memory and I must close it using task manager. Previously, it was just very slow to completely close. Now it's not closing at all remaining in background services... This is happening without even opening any projects. Simply opening Cakewalk.

Sadly, The Cluster isn't showing the sale price...