Bill Phillips

Post moved to Feadback Loop. Sorry, thought it might be related to early release version.

See GIF. The track expand drag tool seems to be more difficult to use and I believe that it's a new problem with this version but haven't verified by rolling back. When I try to drag down to expose more tracks controls getting the tool to pop up seems more difficult and then once I start dragging it seems very likely to drop out while I'm holding down left click.

Wow, what a thorough response (or more accurately tutorial). Thank you very much. I was recalling from the distant past when there were separate MIDI and Synth tracks. I think at some point the Make Instrument Track option came along. It looks like the option to insert a Soft Synth track without a MIDI track is gone, but that 's not a problem. As you pointed out, the Split Instrument Track option separates the Synth and MIDI tracks. In hind site, all I needed to do was turn the page to 856. Given that I'd been stewing over that problem for quite a while basically using the search box and entering different phrases, it's disappointing that I didn't turn the page.

Have Synth Tracks been eliminated? I tried to add a Synth Track which exist according to the 26.11.00. See screenshot below. But I don't see a "Insert Synth Track" option on the Track Pane dropdown menu. See gif below. I wanted separate MIDI and Synth Tracks so that I could hopefully record the arpeggiated MIDI output so that I could better understand and edit MIDI track arpeggiator patterns.

Thanks. Is there a pattern editor for the ARP files that would allow editing existing files or creating new ones? I know where the patterns are stored and some pattern names (Ebm9) explain the pattern but most (like ElGtr 07) don't. Also the pattern that many ARPs play depends on the number of keys in the chord and to me they are unpredictable. Auditioning each one seems to be the only way to determine what they will do.

Do arpeggiator preset names (1a, 1-Note 3c, etc.) mean anything? The names don't seem to indicate much of anything about the pattern. Also how are they created or edited? I looked at one with Notepad which couldn't display many of the characters in the file. Is the arpeggiator intended to work only with triads? The patterns they play varies depending on the number of keys depressed but not necessarily in any specific ways. Any information or guidance appreciated.

Thanks again. I hope to get around to those additional distractions, but for right now, my distraction bin is full.

I didn't know that Thanks.

I've disabled and uninstalled mine for my $X 580 HDMI Audio and it returns on every reboot. I can't seem to get rid of it. I've looked in the Radeon software and can't find a way there either. Any suggestions?

Ok, I did that and got carried away and completely distracted. I bought issue #261 for $3.99 which has a really dense article on music theory that I'm going to try to work through plus about 12GB of downloads including about 30 instruments and 55 effects, plus additional instruments and effects in the getting started folders. I only installed the pitch shifter plugin you mentioned and a harmony instrument. I'll probably install more for completing the music theory tutorial. Thanks, I think. ?

If measures were removed, that should be obvious in the waveform. Show take lanes and it may show the original clip as take 1 and the melodyne edited clip as take 2. I say "may" because it doesn't seem to always seem to happen and I haven't dug in to find the reason. Also if you open the audio folder and change select Name, Length, Bit rate, Size, Date last saved, Date modified and Type Columns for display, you'll probably be able to better understand what melodyne is doing. Again, I haven't completely verified this, but, AFAIK, there will be at least 3 versions of the clip you edited: The version you recorded, the version Melodyne "imported/created" and the version Melodyne "rendered." The first two (recorded & imported) should be identical. I use quotation marks for the Melodyne clip descriptions because I don't know what they are called in Cakewalk and Melodyne documentation. Also if you select a portion of a clip for Melodyne editing, two or three clips will be created by rendering. But still if you look at and play the before and after clips you should be able to understand what happened. I don't think Melodyne is "wonky." Hopefully you don't edit clips that are currently "Melodyne Region Effect" before they are closed or rendered. Not sure what would happen if you did. If you removed measures in Melodyne and you want to close the gap, move the portion of the clip after the measures that were removed to the left to line up with the measure where you want them to play. Not sure what the problem is here. As long as your computer can handle it, having multiple instances of Melodyne region FX is not a problem unless they are on the same clip if that's even possible. You just need to render or close any Melodyne region FX before you edit a clip containing a region FX. I'm not saying that can't be done. I'm saying it's probably not a good idea.

@tonemangler thanks for the clarification and insights.

Thanks, the filter toggles work for me but the right-click drag moves don't work with the smart tool. Did you mean to say left-click drag to select and left-click drag up/down to adjust volume?

Thanks. That's it. I should have read more carefully. I was looking for "Bus Compressor" syntax used in the Master Bus instance.

See the screenshot below. I'm trying to add a send in a vocal track to the PC4K-S compressor in an acoustic guitar track. As the Send target list shows the Bus Compressor in the Master Bus is available but the AccGtr MF50 and Mix track Bus Compressors are not available. Any suggestions on a way to resolve this? I've read through a couple of earlier threads. In one case a driver update solved the problem. My Focusrite 18i8 1st gen drivers are up to date. In the other the project was forwarded to Cakewalk support but the results of that effort are not in the thread. Thanks.

When selecting multiple nodes or all nodes on an envelope, Ctrl + Click-Dragging with the Smart Tool seems to move all selected nodes reliably, but, I didn't find that option in the documentation. Did I miss it? Is that expected behavior or a bug? Should it be documented? OTOH, the documented method (as described by text in the red box in screenshot below), Click-Dragging Up/Dn in the top center, does not always move all selected nodes Up/Dn. Sometimes it will create a node below the mouse pointer or highlight the envelope segment between the nodes on either side of the mouse pointer.

Thanks for the clarification. I was using SHIFT + Right-Click and Drag which was doing strange things like changing the edit filter.

I can't get lasso (SHIFT + RIGNT-CLICK) works with the edit filter but drag select does and DELETE does work. I just know that I've tried that before and it didn't work but looks like I was wrong.

I agree and am using it.

That works. This one works too and I don't need to make a tool change. Thanks to all. I'll be using these suggestions to speed up my automation envelope development. After reviewing these responses I went back and reviewed Creating and editing automation envelopes in the online help document and found much of it misleading. I wasn't able to identify either @Nigel Mackay 's or @Lord Tim's suggestions on that page. Also since there are multiple ways to do the same thing, I find the documentation confusing. Also, one thing I'd really like but can't find is a way to delete a group of selected nodes. I often accidentally create a number of nodes and have to delete them one at a time because anything I try deletes all nodes not just the selected ones.

Do you have an easier/faster way of doing the operation shown in the GIF below? I do this a lot for clip gain and other automation envelopes like the PC EQ HMF Gain envelope shown in the GIF and my way of adding sloped transitions is time consuming. One issue that might not be obvious is setting the envelope level since for things like this unmasking operation I like to make the cut level consistent. But, dragging it down in each instance is tedious and the level increments easily hit vary depending on vertical zoom. One thing that would be helpful for my workflow is eliminating the duplicate nodes created by the envelope drag up/down operation.

My daughter has one with only a USB interface. Is that what you have? I haven't had to deal with it yet, but will. So I'll be following this thread. She likes the mic but the USB interface and the 16 bit depth are a concern for me. If there is an ASIO driver for it and I can record her vocals solo, then I'll probably use that. Otherwise, I'm hoping I can use WSAPI. Then I'll just have to remember to switch back to 24 bit depth when I switch back to my audio interface, something I've forgotten to do before.

I'm no expert but this seems to work for me. I use Melodyne 5 or iZotope RX for any plosives that I can't handle with clip automation. For everything else associated with normalization I use clip gain automation which is time consuming but tames lumps while maintaining dynamic range. I've been using clip gain automation for a long time.

So true. Thank you Bakers!

Thanks for sharing the 30 year old video. I moved from Colorado to Florida 35 years ago and have been really enjoying the snow (lack of) in Florida ever since. Once in a while I do miss snow this time of the year and your video cured me.?