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Have you tried the "Show Desktop" function in the Windows taskbar (at the bottom right)? Just toggle it back and forth two or three times. That way, I was able to outsmart the Sonar hang sometimes and came back into the program without taskmanager shutdown.

Hello...? Is there a trick that will make Sonar open the project notes (Project Information --> Notes - Sonar Browser) at the same time as the project? Maybe I just don't know how. Why do I want that? Often, it's helpful to immediately receive certain information (warnings/special features) when opening a project that I didn't think about or had forgotten about...

Have you checked what the Windows Task Manager shows about Sonar? Is it a crash (which is displayed as such) or is the program there without an error message? I'm asking because I've experienced Sonar "hanging" in the past, but it wasn't reported as a crash in the Task Manager. That would definitely indicate graphics problems related to Sonar. This picture was made when Sonar hung, but there is no error reported by windows. When Sonar really crashes, you usually see an error message here as well.

As I mentioned in my post above, this one is not half as comfortable like the global- funktion in MenuBar. If you have 20 MIDI Tracks it takes about 20 secounds to turn them all on or off. For my workflow, it wouldn't be important to activate them all, only to deactivate them. I work with "no echo on when track is activated" ( --> preferences) and for large projects, it would be great if I didn't always have to check which echo is currently activated. It would be senceful if I could simply turn all echoes off using one-hit shortcut. Thats the reason why I'm asking for...

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@Promidi - It was some time ago, and I can't remember exactly, but there were a few assignments that were only accessible via the Shortcut Editor and didn't appear in the shortcut list... It could have been there (?). I don't really understand why "Echo global on/off" wasn't linked to a shortcut (like Mute or Solo), but there must have been a reason... For example, show/hide Pro Channel (Ctrl+I) – you can't find the Pro command in the search, either in Global or in the Track View. It's only listed as an Assignment in the text area below. (see picture) and this of course means that you can't assign any other shortcut to the command Ctrl+I...

Hi there, Is there a shortcut for this function (all echoes off - globaly) in the control bar (see photo)? I don't think so, but I might be mistaken... There is an echo shortcut for "all selected echoes on/off", but that's a slightly different function and takes about 1 second per echo to turn it on or off. This one is very fast and happens immidiately for all echoes in the actual project. Hm, there are also shortcuts for global solo and global mute, which work directly for all buttons...

Ahhh, I remember this scene, this happend when Chus Chandler destroyed Jimi Hendrix...

@Will.Are you on Sonar or CbBL?

So what if I tell you it (SubLab XL) works flawlessly in my CbBL SetUp? But it doesn't in actual Sonar - where is the logic? This company charges me 16* every month and doesn't give a damn about my problems. I think the other companies are the same. "All we are is dust in the wind..." but we like your money

So what if I tell you it (SubLab XL) works flawlessly in my CbBL SetUp? But it doesn't in actual Sonar - where is the logic? Also works in my FL Studio SetUp - what knowldge do I miss here? "Too old for Rock 'n Roll but too young to die" (Jethro Tull)

you're right, bro, it seems like I'm wasting my time with this stuff - thx for inspiration

🤡 that's shurly true, who could know better than me? 💯🤡 The DAW is the circus, plugins are the attractions, audio and MIDI are the audience, and the clown makes fun of all this crap.

If the SubLab GUI is inactive, even recording is going on and the playback bar works without problems - only then you can no longer operate the synth... strange Mein Video-1.mp4

As I mentioned before, this problem only occurs with SubLab... If I use "Show Desktop" in the taskbar at the bottom right and then bring up Sonar again, I get the controls back. Very strange - it has something to do with the graphics... I'm sure and I'll find out. Just wait aother few days

I had to reset my PC a few weeks ago. All my personal data remained intact, but I had to reinstall all my programs. It wasn't a fun experience...

See, full edition to SubLab XL until I hit the Spacebar... Bildschirmaufnahme 2025-04-25 130131.mp4

I thought so, it seems to have something to do with the Nvidia graphics issue. So, next I'll uninstall that Nvidia app—I think that'll fix it... If sonar really freezes, then this is usually also commented in the Task Manager - but this is not the case here - that is strange

Thx for inspiration!! So, this is what I did: - uninstalled Sublab - deleted all *.dlls (VST2 and VST3) - deleted all SubLab registry entries (there were many) - then restarted PC - new installation of SubLab XL You know what! Still the same problem! I can start a project with SubLab and edit everything until I press the play button - then only the play bar runs, and Sonar crashes (freeze...?). There's no error message, and I can only close the program via the task manager. Hmm, the task manager doesn't say that Sonar has crashed either. This is just really annoying - I've been experiencing this for 20 years - always something new like this. Ha, ha great show... but in the end it will turn out, I have done something "wrong" again.

Cool, I had no problems with it a few weeks ago either - bad luck, it'll probably take days until I get it working again... Good to know, thx for your comment

No Asio4All - Focusrite 2|2 - strange, as far as I've observed, it only occurs with SubLab; otherwise, no problems, and I use about 100 VSTs... All is running on a Z2 HP Workstation 32 GB Ram. Thx anyway for respond 💯

Hi and Hello 🧑‍🚀 There are strange problems with Win Sublab VST2/3 and Win Sublab XL VST2/3 in my Sonar DAW. Everything works fine until I press the DAW’s start/play button – then Sonar freezes, and I can only close it via the Windows Task Manager. I’m using ASIO drivers and have tried a lot of things to solve the problem. Hmm, I didn’t have this problem with Sublab before. Does anyone have any ideas? This only happens with Sublab Synth. Does anybody work with this PlugIn too?

Thanks, Amberwolf, for the comment. Yes, at some point you know what this and that is and how it works, but after a few years everything gets mixed up in the brain again. I don't know if a modern fighter jet requires more software knowledge than these DAWs? 🫡 Of course, it's unsattisfing the VST envelopes and parameter assignments aren't preserved in the template. Over the past few weeks, I've created a "Total VST-Control" for the Z3TA+2 Synth. This preset requires about 250 VST parameter envelopes, all of which have remote assignments. I use three MIDI channels (5/6/7 per 128 CCs). I would have liked to use it as a template, but... niente. Controlling it with Touch Portal is so awesome—I'm totally impressed by how stable it works and Sonar actually does a good job. 😁 See my YT-Clip about Touch Portal as a MIDI Controller: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3VzIHqiIho&t=174s

Oh, what a mess.... So I tried a few of my older *.cwx (template) files, and tadaa! They worked perfectly. The Z3TA Synth Template doesn't seem to work, hmm, weird. In any case, I've now realized the difference between Track and Project Templates and Clip and Track Automation. The fact is, however, that VST-Synth Parameters, Envelopes, and associated Remote Settings aren't carried over into a Track Template. Thx for helping

ha, ha what we are talking about...? -- insert the template into an existing project -- I thought thats what template is all about 🧐 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Okay, I see it - a softsynth with assigned parameters (envelopes) and remote settings cannot be exported from one project to another -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------