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It works just fine on my system. ?

No, god, no, please, anything but that.

Congratulations on your MCompleteness. Over 100 plug-ins that you'll feel like you barely scratch the surface of. ? That is not an "issue." Those are the terms of purchase. It's similar to most other software companies' policies on upgrade deals: upgrading doesn't grant you the right to sell your previous license(s). You usually retain only the right to use the product(s) that were upgraded. Also, you're usually not permitted to sell individual licenses from a bundle. From the MComplete bundle, there are over a dozen individual plug-ins that at this point, I don't think I'll ever touch aside from just test driving them. It would be great if I could sell or give away those licenses, but it just doesn't work that way. I think some of the mystery big purchases I've seen drop credits into my account are from when I put my referral code into a couple of threads (I got hand-slapped by a moderator, but the code is still in older threads) at VI-Control about MeldaProduction. The userbase over there seems to include some high-roller pro types whose idea of checking out a manufacturer's line of goods is to just buy a complete bundle. No "upgrade the FreeFX bundle" for them. The moral is to get it out there when you can. I always tried to be cool about it and actually type something helpful, like the recipe for getting the FreeFX bundle/pro upgrade for $5 or whatever. No "Use this code for 20% off at MeldaProduction!" followed by nothing else. ? I wonder how much cash I've spent with them over the years. I decided at one point that I had all of their products that I wanted, but the credits kept rolling in and a couple of lowball introductory offers (MTurboAmp, MSoundfactoryLE) on big-ticket items (normally $108 each) came along and....here we are. Those deep discounts really add up. And it usually comes as a surprise during these 50% off all bundles, 50% off all products, 65% off all bundles sales just how much those little $9-25 purchases and Pluginboutique freebies are really worth in Meldaville.

This. Horses for courses. Linux is great at what it does best, which is hosting servers, enabling people to get extra life out of older hardware, and provide a viable productivity desktop for people and organizations who wish to save money on OS licenses. It also provides an alternative for users who don't care for Microsoft's and Apple's policies and behavior. The primary function of a company is to make money. If they can't make enough profit from some activity (even indirectly), they will either not engage in that activity or cease to engage in it. Witness the impending freeze of freeware CbB and advent of payware Cakewalk Sonar. The "building brand awareness" era was great, but about to come to an end. The 5-year introductory offer. ? It's difficult for audio software companies to make money on Linux because A, there are so very few people using it for audio, and B, frankly, Linux users are used to getting most of their software for free. The potential customers are LOUD, but few.

I believe you meant to say: ? Really, folks, look at this guy's content (as well has his change of handle). The only places he's "contributed" to are the "Delusional Linux" topic in Coffee House and here. The "is that all you got," the change of handle, the repeated assertions that he's "out of here" yet always coming back, it's obvious. He's a skillful troll, and it's been fun to play Poke The Troll with him, but he's just getting a kick out of the attention and how much he can bait us. And sincerely, Mr. Linux Advocates Are The Worst, my (red) hat is off to you. You played the 90's "Linux Loony" to a T. It was fun to revisit my younger days. ?

C'mon, now I know you're roleplaying. That's another one from the Linux moonie playbook: make an unsupported claim that, even if true, would have no bearing on the "discussion." Sure, the fact that NASA uses Linux for some things proves that it's good for audio work! Speaking of NASA, do you know what audio software they used when studying and cleaning up the audio from Neil Armstrong's "One small step" speech? GoldWave for Windows. Apparently when NASA has audio work to do, they use systems other than their Linux ones. But really, who gives a crap what NASA or anyone else uses? So someone warned you away from posting a Linux beg on this forum and you did it anyway? Are most other Linux users as smart as you? I am about 75% convinced that your schtick is a put-on. Is this for a class you're taking or just your own amusement?

"Is that all I got (sic)?" I was merely agreeing with your statement. Be careful what you wish for. I've been following Linux' fortunes since early 1992. I downloaded it from a BBS on floppies and gave it to one of my company's programmers because we had chattedf about him using UNIX at university and I thought he would be interested in this thing. I have a Linux box in my home right now, a retired 32-bit iMac. I've lost track of how many Linux systems I've built. I find the OS fun to tinker with and useful for lightweight productivity things like web browsing, email and word processing. Libre Office runs great on it, so does Chrome, and for the vast bulk of people, that's most of what they do on a desktop computer. I use my computer for those things, but I'm also an enthusiast of audio production and games, two areas Linux is terrible for. For audio production work, where it absolutely falls on its a55 is when I try to set up audio on it for anything more complex than an onboard Realtek chip. For games, nobody makes decent games for Linux. The usual Linux apologist answer to this is something along the lines of "it's the fault of the hardware companies for not supporting it." "If they would only make games for Linux, people would buy them." Followed by a list of software that actually does support Linux. I've heard the pitch a hundred times, it never changes. Like Sakini said, I haven't seen a Linux weenie like you in decades. If this is some kind of 90's roleplaying or an elaborate troll, I have to hand it to you, you sound just like they did back then. Participating in this topic reminds me of my younger days, when the Linux-smitten would loudly proclaim how Linux was going to take over the market "real soon now" and that Windows was doomed. I haven't seen one of you boys (and you're always boys) around in a long old time. Here in the Bay Area the younger ones tended to be into facial hair, polyamory and sword collecting and the older ones kinda looked like Hollywood serial killers. The market has had a very long time to speak, and it has and continues to speak clearly: the demand for audio production software on Linux is tiny. Do not mistake LOUD for large. I imagine that the notable commercial DAW software companies that do support Linux, Cockos and Tracktion, did it mostly to shut the Linux whiners up. "Linux is no longer an underdog in music creation circles and is much much better than the current Windows offerings, which are terrible." The first part of that statement is not quite true, Linux, while indeed being a dog for music production, is not an underdog, because to be an underdog, the dog must be in the fight, which it isn't. You think Linux is The Answer. You are convinced that it's going to take over the world real soon now, and that you're smarter about the software market than the people who run Adobe, BandLab, Presonus, Acoustica, Steinberg, Avid, Magix, iZotope, MeldaProduction, Waves, UAD, IK Multimedia and Image Line who are going to be left behind as the Linux platform assumes its rightful supremacy. You're that market-savvy, yet somehow you got the idea that coming to a forum for a Windows-only commercial product and whining and picking fights would be a good way to drum up support for your favorite computing platform. The current Windows offerings are "terrible?" Cakewalk is a "Windows offering" that you're begging to be ported to Linux. You went on about how great Cakewalk is, you do realize that what you're asking for is a DAW on Linux that works as well as Cakewalk does on Windows. You had to run Windows to know that Cakewalk was so great. And that's pretty much how it is in the world of audio production. The software runs on Windows and MacOS/OSX/whatever Apple's term for it is (funny that when Apple finally realized that MacOS 9 was crap and needed a full rewrite, they had the sense to base its successor on FreeBSD). Why not just go download a copy of REAPER and use that? Support a company that supports your platform! Boycott the rest into submission. REAPER used to have kind of a Linux-y loudmouth would-you-please-just-STFU culture around it and if you're lucky, you might find some of those people in their user community to hang with.

Not sure I'd care for that. I've never used a DAW that operates that way. Something you get used to, I guess. I'm still on v 4, so it took me a bit of flailing until I twigged their philosophy, and that drag and drop was usually the first thing to try in S1. Which in Cakewalk requires the extra step of depressing the Ctrl key after you select the tracks. I never said it didn't. Don't all DAW's have them? I'm not trying to diminish Studio One, I'm comparing the strengths (and weaknesses) of the two programs. I think Studio One is a great program, lots of good ideas there that I would love to have in Cakewalk. This might not be a popular opinion, but it seems to me that feature-wise, CbB (as it is today) is comparable to Studio One Artist. The big missing feature in Artist is the Chord Track from what I can tell. Compared to Artist, Cakewalk also lacks the integrated samplers, and its other bundled instruments are kinda dire. Studio One Artist 4 added the samplers a few months after CbB first shipped. A couple of years later, Presonus added support for 3rd-party VST's to Artist 5, which is when it became a viable option, IMO. BandLab pushed the meme that "Cakewalk by BandLab is the formerly $499 SONAR Platinum for free," but it never was. Feature-wise, CbB (when it was first issued) was pretty much the formerly $199 SONAR Professional, which was Cakewalk's 2nd-tier option. Cakewalk Sonar when it ships will be competing with the $99 Studio One Artist, and Studio One Artist is stiffer competition these days, as is the $149 (but frequently discounted) Mixcraft Pro Studio. It will be interesting to see what the pricing looks like. Cakewalk has obviously been the best bang for the buck for the past 5 years, but that may change. This is something that I too would like to see addressed.

The new feature blurbs for S1 v6 indicate that they just introduced that kind of UI customization. I only have S1 Artist v4, so I don't have a way to compare them.

That much is quite obvious.

I think the drag and drop workflow things he demonstrated were pretty slick, although you can already drag an instrument from Cakewalk's Browser onto the Track Header pane and have it create the instrument track of your choice without popping that dialog. All you have to do is set the choices in the dialog the way you like and then untick the box that asks if you wish to see the dialog every time. It's a thing about Cakewalk: it's packed with slick little features that nobody knows about. If you're not Smart Swiping and Quick Grouping, I use those all the time. I mentioned Quick Groups to Mike in the comments of the video and he said that S1 does something similar to quick groups. I've read some of S1's marketing hype, and it seems like they have an overall philosophy that focuses the workflow on dragging and dropping. That shows in the end product. Cakewalk's UX suffers somewhat from having been created by so many different teams under different product management. There doesn't seem to be a unifying design philosophy applied to it. Maybe there are/were multiple design philosophies? Cakewalk was around before drag and drop was even a thing on the PC. Dragging and dropping FX onto the headers to create audio tracks....nice enough, but kind of a novelty (unless you are aiming for every operation to be able to be triggered by a drag and drop). The ability to select and drag two FX onto the FX bin would be a nice thing, though. Dragging FX onto the Sends bin and it automatically creates a Send track? I think I actually thought about that for Cakewalk at one point but didn't bring it up. I'd use the heck out of that. I typically don't use drag and drop from the Browser much because it doesn't offer anything special, but if it automatically created send tracks, and you could drag multiple plug-ins at the same time, that would change my attitude toward it. People have been mentioning templates as how they avoid the repetitive chores of setting up projects, and perhaps S1 lends itself more readily to a "blank slate" approach, starting from an empty or minimal project. When you aren't so sure ahead of time where things are going to go. The more deviation from the template, the more the workflow exposes itself. Anyway, I'm sure the devs are paying attention to these videos and the resulting threads. This drag and drop track and bus creation is probably not all that difficult to implement as it doesn't ask the program do anything it can't already do, it's just another way to tell it what to do. Drag and drop to the Send bin to create a bus, hold Alt to create an aux track. P.S. He also showed (but didn't talk much about) how you can resize the modules in S1's mixer, which I have wished for since I started using Cakewalk. There can be a LOT of wasted real estate in the Console depending on how many FX and Sends you're working with, whether you need the gain knob visible, etc.

That's why there's such great synergy in the merge with iZotope.

I'd probably like Seventh Heaven too. They say it's a Bricasti M7 clone and my favorite MTurbo device is called "Brichamber." I assume from the name that it's supposed to imitate a Bricasti. I've heard that about Vintage Verb. I guess it's designed to do similar things to Exponential R2/R4/Symphony, which I have and are great. I loved the sounds Robin Guthrie got with Cocteau Twins and those are supposed to emulate those 70's/80's rack 'verbs. Neoverb sounds great; it's got the Expo algos. iZotope had to go and add their patented CPUGobbler® technology, though, so I haven't explored it so much. I am surprised about Raum. Like most of us I got it because it was free. I tried it and it didn't knock me out. Are you using it as a general purpose 'verb or sound design-y character effect?

I'm no authority, so I'm curious which reverb(s) you consider to be equal or superior.

For me, there is not, nor will there likely ever be any functional difference between MTurboReverb and MTurboReverble. They both have the same devices and presets. MTurboReverb allows you to get under the hood more deeply and edit the reverb algorithms. Here's a screenshot of my favorite reverb in MTurboReverb(le): As you can see, this one single device has 27 different parameters for the user to adjust if the user wishes. That selector that says "Bella" is one of the 9 different algorithms you may select for the "Brichamber" device. There are about 100 different reverb "devices." 100 different reverbs where you can choose your favorite of 9 different algorithms per reverb. So the non-LE version is for people for whom 900 different flavors of reverb with 26 parameters each isn't quite versatile enough. IMO, pretty much nobody needs the non-LE version. Without touching a knob other than Dry/Wet, it already sounds as good as anything I've heard (I haven't heard every reverb but I have licenses for the Exponential line and have checked out multiple reverb shootouts on YouTube). And, confession: I've only ever used the Brichamber device, and only with the "Bella" algorithm, because I stop when I don't think I can make a mix sound any better. It's the first bus reverb I try and inevitably sounds so good that I've never felt the need to switch to another preset. It feels weird to have that many options and stick with only one, but what can I say? I'm a "too many reverbs unfocuses the mix" guy. Only other thing I use is either PhoeNimbuStratus or something extreme like Valhalla Supermassive. MTurboReverble and MTurboDelay by themselves make any of the 2nd and 3rd tier bundles that includes them a bargain if you don't already have them. Just one great reverb is worth the hundy that MEssentials is going for right now.

I posted the news on VI-Control in the wee hours and there are already a few newly-anointed MComplete licensees over there. One is convinced it's a glitch. 65% is a BIG discount, though.... I'm wondering if maybe the site's code is giving you 70% of retail in credit even for each individual plug-in in a bundle. That might explain the small cost of MCompleteness. Whatever, MPowerSynth was the unexpected prize of the bunch for me. I already had all of the MP products I wanted before I became MComplete. I wouldn't want to try programming it, and the front-facing UI is plain as can be, but there are some fine sounds in MPowerSynth.

Yes, oddness abounds with their upgrade offers. For instance, I could have upgraded to MTotalFX for more than the cost of MComplete. It makes sense because while all my previous licenses counted toward MComplete, not all of them counted toward MTotalFX because I had a (purchased at deep discount) license for MSoundFactoryLE. So if your licenses include MDrummer, MSoundFactory, and MPowerSynth, none of them apply to FX bundles. Also, I swear that I've seen that "refresh the page and the price drops" thing happen too. Or I checked the prices, then went away and came back a day or so later and they were lower. It's the MeldaFairy waving her wand, I guess. And dude, c'mon really, if it said $11 for MComplete earlier, it should now say "you already own MComplete." ? Unless you're waiting for referral credits to come in....I had that happen during a big sale, so I always waited until the day before the sale was over to make any purchases.

Not long ago, I had some credits in my account due to someone I didn't even know having bought something pricey using my ref. code (likely posted on VI Control). 50% off everything sale came up, I was all poised to spend my credits on MTransformer and looked and saw that in addition to my credits, I needed $19 to level up to MComplete. I really didn't see that one coming. It's such a huge collection of stuff, and I will be getting licenses for anything they ever come out with as long as we both shall live. MeldaProduction's credits and prior purchases and "% off" sales have a way of building up and combining to make bundles way cheaper than one expects, so if you own any license, always check your bundle offers when they have a sale. This happens partly because if you already have a license for a plug-in that's part of a bundle, 70% of that plug-in's list price is applied to the bundle price. This drops to 50% if you bought it from a dealer. This is why snagging $10 MeldaProduction odds and ends from dealers pays off: it's a coupon for 50% of the list price of the thing when applied to a bundle. There's also overlap in the bundles, and the license prices from one bundle apply to another bundle. So let's say you already have MEssentialsFX, half of the plug-ins in MEssentialsFX are also in MMixingFX, etc. so you don't have to pay again for those. Wouldn't it be wonderful if iZotope did it that way? Anyway, if you're new to buying anything from them, use the newsletter sign-up and use a referral code and you'll get the cost of the MFreeFX "pro" upgrade down to about $8. Pretty good for 37 plug-ins. If you want to go fancier, my recommendation is for MEssentialsFX. 10 plug-ins including MTurboReverble, MTurboDelay, MAutoAlign, and MAutodynamicEQ. Use the first-timer deals and get both bundles for about $80. And no, we can't post referral codes in public, so hit up a Melda customer (it's ralfroberts' topic, so reward him) in private.

Um, MComplete includes everything in MTotalFX, so buy MComplete first. ?

Check PM for a possible alternative. ? Another benefit you'll appreciate from updating to a later processor is the presence of the higher levels of extended multimedia instructions. I started to have some IK Multimedia plug-ins refuse to run on my old notebook, which had a 2nd-generation i7. They said they needed the multimedia instruction set to run and that was that. I'm not sure how the presence of those extensions affects Vegas NLE's and video rendering, but it sure can't hurt.

Unfortunately, no, which is why I sourced you the Optiplex. Modern graphics cards require the computer to boot from the UEFI BIOS, which loads from the system drive rather than motherboard ROM. A Dell Optiplex 7010 with an i7-3770 was my main DAW/NLE rig until about a year ago, and would still be working fine had I not found a killer deal on a motherboard. It has a GTX550Ti in it, which was a pretty powerful GPU in its day (and still holds up), but it wasn't unusable when using the onboard graphics. Dells are known for being very well-built. As for being upgradeable, the only thing to watch out for is whether the graphics card you want doesn't have power requirements that exceed the power supply's capacity. Dells, like HP's, use power supplies with proprietary connectors, which makes them more difficult to swap for beefier components. The GT 1030 has very low power requirements, but as I said, the onboard graphics of a newer i5 or i7 will knock the sox off your current GT 520 anyway. BTW, if you haven't taken an air blaster can to the inside of the HP lately, that can help with noisy fan syndrome and may help the computer run faster. Just be sure to take it outside first! You may be able to find a Canadian source of refurbished Dells. I think Best Buy also sells them. Just Google "refurbished Optiplex" and see what comes up. I can help vet whatever you find. I recently helped Larry Jones take the refurbished Dell path and he's very happy with the results.

Let's say my song is in 4/4 and I have my grid set to 1/4 notes (or 1/8 or whatever subdivision). Is there a way for me to have Cakewalk's playhead move ahead by 1/4 note (or 1/8 or whatever) each time I strike a certain key (or click the mouse in a certain place)? The purpose for this is transcribing songs. Right now, I'm trying to figure out a song's beat, so I have it loaded as an audio track, I have the tempo matched, and I'm putting the notes that the drummer is playing into the PRV. It just popped into my head that it would be great if I could make Cakewalk play just 1/4 or 1/8 or 1/16 each time I tapped the key. Otherwise I hear the next note I want, but also a few after that before I can hit the spacebar and rewind. So to be able to set the grid and play just the next beat would be handy. Having a command to back the playhead up by a beat division would be cool, too. This seems like something Cakewalk would be able to do, and if it's not already, a feature request is on its way.

A HP Pavilion i7 2600 is a desktop/tower.

Your Pavilion doesn't support UEFI BIOS, so upgrading the video card ain't happening. Really, though, it's actually a good thing that it didn't work, because this is a much better card for less money, and also passively cooled: https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-GeForce-GDDR5-Graphics-GT1030-2G-CSM/dp/B0716ZH99K There's no longer any reason to struggle with systems this old when there are deals like this around: https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Latitude-Business-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B07K6YG7YY That makes it about $200 total (including the GT 1030) for a computer that would be a video editing powerhouse compared to your current setup. And if you get a brand new system (which I would never do, I shop used and refurbished), the GT 1030 is a worthy card. (even without the card, using the onboard graphics on the Dell would be better than what you have now) I use Vegas Pro and my GT 1030 flies with that, I also game with it and it's run every title I've thrown at it with aplomb. Here's a comparison. Note how the GT 1030's column uses the words "hugely faster" and "hugely better" for every spec. https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GT-1030-vs-Nvidia-GeForce-GT-730/m283726vsm12582 Turn the Pavilion into a network server.

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