user905133

4 hours ago, DeeringAmps said:

Go to Help>Legal . . .

If you do NOT see Activated by Cakewalk, go back to the help menu, 

and Sign In to Bandlab.

Good advice for those forum members that missed it.

22 minutes ago, pwal³ said:

Have bandlab bothered to email all the users to let them know this? Could avoid some hoo har

I got notified on the forum 2 or 3 years ago.  However, before that no one from Cakewalk ever sent me an e-mail that SONAR was going out of business back in 2017, and no one from Bandlab ever sent me an e-mail in 2018 that they had resurrected the software.  It wasn't until after I had wasted money on another company's useless software (2019) that someone I knew online mentioned that Cakewalk was now being offered by Bandlab.

I could have save $150 and a whole lot of time trying to get the other DAW to work.  

Sorry, no pity from me that users of Cakewalk by Bandlab didn't know that Bandlab Assistant stopped being used for CbB years ago. 

4 minutes ago, User 905133 said:

. . . I suppose there are some that would say "Everyone is entitled to their opinion" to which we can add "even if they are factually wrong."

In college I met someone who claimed that Father Sarducci (an occasional character on the US TV Show Saturday Night Live played by Don Novello) was actually Frank Zappa.  I accepted his right to cling to that opinion.

2 minutes ago, paulo said:

I didn't say that I believed it, I said that the evidence you presented to make your case did nothing to prove that it's not true.?

My bad.  My main intent in posting the link to the original Mr No Name thread was not to prove that he lied, but that (1) I have a history of trying to help people, (2) I have a history of asking clarifying questions, and (3) to point to the background for some of my statements to Starship Krupa above. 

I should have been more clear as to my reasons for including the link, even if the enumeration of reasons like that is something I learned in academia and could be considered pedantic. ?

3 minutes ago, paulo said:

That doesn't really prove anything. There used to be a guy in the songs forum that argued with himself all the time.?

If you want to believe Mr No Name's false accusation against me, I suppose there are some that would say "Everyone is entitled to their opinion" to which we can add "even if they are factually wrong."

3 minutes ago, paulo said:

13 hours ago, Starship Krupa said:

You can always recognize me by the long-winded pedantic style anyway. ?

TLDR.

Oh wait......

Sorry, force of habit.?

@Starship Krupa After re-reading the original "Mr No Name" thread and seeing the length and pedantry in some of my posts, I think we should pretend we were separated at birth.  Otherwise some people will jump to the false conclusion that you and I are the same person.  ?

7 hours ago, Mr No Name said:

I have a confession to make. I am a second user account of  User 905133,

I'm sorry I shouldn't have done it, please forgive me.

If you think this is funny, you are an *****.

In case anyone is inclined to believe Mr No Name's blatant, malicious, and malevolent lie, you might want to read this thread. 

1 hour ago, Starship Krupa said:

I can't tell if you're being deliberately obtuse here or if you really think I believe that Cakewalk's entire history began in April of 2018.

I (and I think the other person as well) was talking about Cakewalk by BandLab.

I had a SONAR license in 2002. Here's an article I authored about CbB that includes some of its history:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cakewalk_by_BandLab

Well, I was confused by your answering a question as if you were the person the question was addressed to.  One other option was that you have (at least) two accounts and for some reason you were using Mr No Name so you could post things you didn't want people to associate with Starship Krupa.  I thought that would be too ridiculous (though not impossible), which was why I expressed surprised.

I mean if I quote person X and ask directly "what did you mean when you said Y?" and you know I know the history, but person X presents himself as someone new to the community who doesn't read manuals, why would you answer a question as if you are someone else?

I suppose if you wanted to answer on behalf of Mr No Name (assuming you are two different people)

On 4/1/2024 at 3:37 AM, Mr No Name said:

it was designed as a free daw to attract people to the bandlab platform,

On 4/2/2024 at 12:32 PM, User 905133 said:

What do you mean when you say Cakewalk was designed to attract people to the bandlab platform? 

On 4/2/2024 at 12:59 PM, Starship Krupa said:

That seemed to be its function at first. Re-release this classic program to be used at no cost, but it requires creating a BandLab account.

So for years, it acted as a promotional loss-leader.

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I can't tell if you're being deliberately obtuse here or if you really think I believe that Cakewalk's entire history began in April of 2018.

Based on the posts I have seen made under the name of Mr No Name, I had no reason to assume he didn't mean what he actually said.  So I did the responsible thing and asked a direct question to get clarification. 

So I was quite surprised that you told me something that I have every reason to believe you know I knew. 

Your insinuation that I might have been "deliberately obtuse" is very problematic.  As I stated, based on previous posts I have read from the Mr No Name account, I would have been wrong to assume that Mr No Name meant

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it [Cakewalk] was designed purchased by Bandlab so they could use it as a free daw to attract people to the bandlab platform,

So far as I have seen from his posts Mr No Name could very well have thought that Cakewalk was designed as a free DAW so Bandlab [the company] could attract people to Bandlab [the software / app / ecosystem].

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I can't tell if you're being deliberately obtuse here or if you really think I believe that Cakewalk's entire history began in April of 2018.

This is an false dichotomy.

In case it's not clear, I asked for clarification about what "Mr No Name" meant by what he said. It was clear that I was asking a direct question for the purpose of getting a clarification of what he meant.  

I don't understand at all how that was not clear to you from my post. 

On 4/1/2024 at 3:37 AM, Mr No Name said:

If they end use of Cakewalk DAW, that will be a very daft move imo.

it was designed as a free daw to attract people to the bandlab platform,

On 4/2/2024 at 12:32 PM, User 905133 said:

What do you mean when you say Cakewalk was designed to attract people to the bandlab platform? 

On 4/2/2024 at 12:59 PM, Starship Krupa said:

That seemed to be its function at first. Re-release this classic program to be used at no cost, but it requires creating a BandLab account.

So for years, it acted as a promotional loss-leader.

I hate to tell you because I thought you knew, but Cakewalk was around long before Bandlab acquired the Intellectual Property that became CbB.

2 minutes ago, Quinellipe Zorn said:

I think it's suitable for people to complain here.  If the complaints here are not heard, that's not on the consumers, that's on the company.  

There are many ways of expressing dissatisfaction with the status quo.  

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status quo = the existing state of affairs

IMO, it's on the complainers not the company (to borrow your wording) for distorting the current state of affairs. I would rather the Bakers spend their time continuing to make daily improvements in the new products instead of paying attention to all the noise.

https://www.roland.com/uk/blog/rd-stage-pianos-history/#:~:text=In 2001%2C the next big,the JV and XV Series.

https://cdn.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/RD-500_OM.pdf

https://www.roland.com/global/products/hp700_series/#:~:text=Roland's HP700 series supports your,instrument that grows with you.

https://static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/HP704_702_eng02_W.pdf

On 4/1/2024 at 2:20 PM, User 905133 said:

So, last night I tried to get rid of (exclude) the grooveplayer in the Menu-based Cakewalk plug-in manager.  It was excluded (or so it said), I rescanned plug-ins, and I even restarted CbB, but I couldn't make the Metronome fail to sound. [emphasis added]

In another thread on a different issue, David Baay wrote something that explains what I wrote (see above):

8 minutes ago, David Baay said:

Excluding plugins just hides them from the menus so they can't be added to a new project; it won't stop the plugin from being loaded in an existing project that uses it.

  This makes sense!!  Thanks.

Instrument files (*.ins) shouldn't affect whether or not CbB (Cakewalk by Bandlab) sees your interface.  Years ago I borrowed a Mio usb to midi interface cable to test drive and it worked very well, but that was on an XP SP3 PC.

Does the interface show up as a midi device in Preferences > MIDI > Devices?  A screenshot might help to figure out what's going on. Also, under MIDI > Playback and Recording, does it say MME or UWP?  

Update: For the Roland Instrument file which contains the definition for the RD-700GX, see the links on this page . However, the manual I found for the Digital Piano RD-700 is copyrighted 2001, which is not quite 30 years old.  What model do you have? If yours is really from 1994, there might not be an *.ins file for your model. The earliest Roland.ins file I have is from 1998.

I sometimes have good luck searching for *.ins files on the internet, so I will look to see if there is an instrument definition for your model.

On 4/1/2024 at 3:37 AM, Mr No Name said:

If they end use of Cakewalk DAW, that will be a very daft move imo.

it was designed as a free daw to attract people to the bandlab platform,

What do you mean when you say Cakewalk was designed to attract people to the bandlab platform? 

 Message I started:

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Oh.  I think I would have tried using the Cakewalk plugin manager to exclude them first to see if that worked (in case I needed/wanted them somewhere down the road).

but when I came back to finish up, John Vere had written:

29 minutes ago, John Vere said:

First no need to uninstall plug ins. Just exclude all the plug ins you don’t need in plug in manager.
But it’s not the problem. 

But there seems to be a new problem (or a manifestation of the original problem that didn't get fixed):

23 minutes ago, tdehan said:

Now I am trying to delete the 2 tracks with the 32bit plugin.  However, each time I try to delete them Cakewalk just hour glasses and freezes requiring and End Task to get out of it.  I've tried this now multiple times.  I get the following error in Event Viewer.

First of all, are you using the same file or did you make a "Save As" copy of it to try to repair? That might or might not be necessary; that's just what I have done.

Second, are you loading the project in CbB's Safe Mode?  Not sure it will help, but it might be worth trying.

NOTE: There are plenty of people trying to help you with this one and I am hesitant to interfere, but since no one else mentioned these two points, here's my "two-cents worth" just in case they help.

or   .

5 minutes ago, tdehan said:

I have no idea what Project 5 is.

SOS article (for Cakewalk Project 5)

SOS article (for Cakewalk Project 5 v. 2)

The only time I lose the metronome is when I accidentally change it to MIDI.  So, last night I tried to get rid of (exclude) the grooveplayer in the Menu-based Cakewalk plug-in manager.  It was excluded (or so it said), I rescanned plug-ins, and I even restarted CbB, but I couldn't make the Metronome fail to sound.

I still have the metronome today.

So I renamed this: to  GroovePlayer.pulled & rebooted CbB.

That gave me tht Missing plug-in error warning box which included this:  GroovePlayer (Track: 'LRS track bus'). 

And that's how I got rid of the Metronome.

So I shut down CbB, renamed it back to GroovePlayer.dll, rebooted CbB, and viola--I had the metronome back.

Note: I have some older Grooveplayer.dll files in storage areas of an external BU HDD, but I don't think those are being picked up by CbB.  They are older than the one from 4/24/2018 (9/12/2013 and 8/10/2011) and are smaller (the 9/12/2013 file is either 795 KB, or 659 KB for the x86 version;  the 8/10/2011 is 682 KB). 

Perhaps these details can be helpful in determining if you have the correct dll and if it's in the right place.  As for editing the registry, I don't mess with that. 

3 hours ago, msmcleod said:

IIRC... MAGIX had a product called Movie Maker... they then rebadged it as Movie Studio.  Then they bought Vegas, and released a "lite" version and called it Movie Studio, and renamed the previous Movie Studio back to Movie Maker. 

I also had a version of some audio software Magix did that was geared towards kids.  I think it was in the Win 98 SE era and might have had the word Jam in the title.  I might still have the manual somewhere. Maybe it was called Music Maker; I'll have to look.  I used Cakewalk and I got the Magix thing because one of my kids was interested in making music and I thought Cakewalk was a bit too advanced. Anyhow, maybe Magix had Music Maker and Movie Maker as an audio-video product line.

OOOPS.  I guess no one suggested to @DNnX to add  - SOLVED to the Topic.  

1 hour ago, Mr No Name said:

I have just read in another thread that it is now on a "free subscription" where you have to renew it on a monthly basis, have the people at bandlab nothing better to do than carrot and sticking people into subscription modelling?   why don't they just charge an amount of money and let people have it as it is with no more updates as they want to make it obsolete.

what will happen when people maybe are travelling or doing some other thing where they forget about daws or laptops for more than a month.

not a great strategy imo.

Would you be kind enough to post the link to the specific post where this is stated?  Thanks.  

1 hour ago, Steven Gerard said:

Even if you can save it, if it's going to require online activation, you're sol.  

What are you basing this assertion on?  If its from a reputable source, please post the link.  If it's just someone's opinion, does the source say it's a fact or identify it as speculation?

If it originates from you, what facts did you put together to come up with this conclusion?

Gearspace has a thread "Is this site a fake? - pluginboutique.SHOP" from mid March 2022!!!!

1 minute ago, John Vere said:

Sorry it’s called Movie Studio. 
The installer is dreadful and will install a ton of bloatware if you let it.
For the cheap price it costs you get the Movie editor as well as full version of Sound Forge and then a DAW I forget it’s name. But there’s way too much weird other stuff too. And then it nags you to install it later! 

Thanks for the clarification. I have the manual for Sony's Screenblast Movie Studio (2003).  I am sure I test drove the software when I first got it, but I have no files on my current computers.  There might be some tests I did on an XP SP3 PC.  For a few years I played around with Nero software, even tested editing some OBS captures with it.

1 hour ago, Sander Verstraten said:

would be great if the damn  Productmanager was working properly.
Most of the time it doesn't show if it's downloading.
But you can't close the program because it thinks it's downloading

I get these things:  

I just checked with Everything (Void Tools) and the zip files for the Sound Libraries I have been updating are definitely eating up my drive space.

I have also been taking screenshots of My PC to keep an eye on the free space on my HDD.

Not sure if the Sound Libraries will install properly (assuming I don't run out of GBs).  But the last IK Product Manager update I did has the % meter.

Looks like Tonex CS has also been updated:

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• What's new in version 1.6.1:
  • Embedded TONEX Pedal firmware 1.2.3
    • New tuner function: press and hold the active preset switch to access the tuner.
  • TONEX Player
    • 2 new and 2 redesigned skins for support of the Metal Gems Signature Collection.
    • Improved compatibility with some DAWs during the plug-in scan process.
  • TONEX Librarian
    • Fixed not working ToneModel drag from ToneNET to librarian if card view is selected.
    • Fixed not working search on ToneNET (mid bar) if librarian is opened.
  • General reliability improvements.

1 hour ago, John Vere said:

I bought Movie makers 14 Pro for about $30 on sale. It came with a full version of Sony Sound Forge which clued me in to the fact that Movie Maker was a re branded Sony Vegas. Cool. All the tutorials were for Vegas. A few year later I was offered to up grade to 17 which I still use. It will crash after 5 edit moves if you don’t save it! 

My recollection is that Sonic Foundry sold both Sound Forge and Vegas to Sony (both of which Magix later acquired). I didn't follow the products closely, but I believe Sony tweaked / rebranded these products (both had Sony Screenblast versions at one point and there was evidently a Sony Screenblast version of Acid, also acquired from Sonic Foundry).  As I understand it Magix took the Sony versions and tweaked / rebranded them. 

I thought Movie Maker was a Windows Product. 

1999 SOS Article on Sonic Foundry's Vegas Pro.

I don't really know the complete history; so maybe somewhere in there Sony also acquired software from Windows and merged it into their version of Vegas?  In 2003 Sony called a version of their video editing software, "Screenblast Movie Studio." In my admittedly limited experience, "Screenblast" referred to the non-Pro versions of various products Sony acquired.