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My favorite (at least for a little while--enough to send the link to friends and relatives) was "Bored, Tubby, Mild."  

1 hour ago, Wibbles said:

Where is ... everyone?

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On 7/8/2025 at 8:46 PM, kitekrazy1 said:

Your price should indeed be $44. This is a special case which is not
handled correctly by our website which we will correct shortly.

In the meantime, I can offer you the $44 pricing. Let me know if you
are interested and I will send you a Paypal invoice.  [emphasis added]

So, I stopping checking to see if the website had been updated a couple of weeks ago. Then today (8/8), I get a email notice of the Summer Sale emphasizing  a CV-3 25% upgrade discount offer.  But for me, it's still $49 to upgrade my CV-1 and CV-2 to CV-3, still $49 to upgrade my EP-4 to EP-5, and still $98 to upgrade both.

Since I already upgraded to the full professional series previously, I still don't get the the $44 Professional Series Offer (nor do I get it using any other of the upgrade / offer buttons.  Guess I should have written them a month ago.  Maybe they fixed the website and I missed it?  Oh well.

6 hours ago, Salvatore Sorice said:

Thanks . . . but this seems counterintuitive to me . . . .

Sorry; I started to write something, decided not to, and hit submit by mistake.

51 minutes ago, bmarlowe said:

Note that there is Roland Sound Canvas VA . . . .

Mentioning that reminded me of the Edirol Sound Canvas VA which I picked up early on as part of my TTS / Cakewalk software. Maybe some people still have that? I got a lot of mileage out of the Breathy Tenor Patch.  Not sure which version of Cakewalk it came with, but I seem to recall it was before TTS-1.

Have you checked the cassettes for the tape-against-the playback-head pressure pads that used the spongy foam material that melted/disintegrated over time (as opposed the the thin metal bar spring mechanism)? It's been quite a while since I opened up some cassettes, but IIRC the less expensive ones used the pad mounted on the foam method to provide the tape-to-tape head pressure.  IIRC those cases also tended to be glued closed rather than held together by screws. 

6 minutes ago, OPunWide said:

To clarify, the single .ins file I created just had my own instruments, then I imported it. . . . 

Thanks for the clarification.  It makes sense to me. 

3 hours ago, OPunWide said:

Warning to others: all the midi routing information will be gone. (example: I use channel 7 for my  D-50 in projects where I use it). Once the ins imports are done, do that routing in preferences / MIDI to be able to see the project patch names, etc.

Is it safe to assume by "all the midi routing information will be gone," you are not talking about the routings that had been saved with your old project files but rather the per channel instrument definition assignments?

If so, I'd be interest to know (1) where those assignments were stored and (2a) if there's a way we can pull them off of older PCs so be can (2b) port them over to a current PC. **

**Nevermind. I looked at an old INSTRMAP file from when I had gear set up with various instrument maps for the several bank-switched preset configurations I used, and it says,

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; Cakewalk Instrument Assignments.
; We recommend that you do not edit this file by hand.

 Looking at the file, I can see that making changes might be inadvisable.  What follows are a sampling of the channel 1 entries for my assignments.  After taking a look, I'd say it would take considerable time (and space) to set up all the gear just to try to match the INSTRMAP. 😛  

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; Cakewalk Instrument Assignments.
; We recommend that you do not edit this file by hand.
0=E-MU Proteus 2500 . . .

256=VZ-8m #3 + PST2 Op-Mem . . .

768=VZ-8m 2004 # 1 + PST1 Op-Mem . . .

1024=E-Mu Proteus 1 . . .

1536=VZ-8m #3 + PST2 Op-Mem . . .

1792=Roland M-GS64 . . .

2560=E-Mu Proteus/1 # 2 - RAM 2 . . .

3072=E5000 Flash RAM . . .

3328=Roland CM-32P+Sax/TBone . . .

3584=Roland U-220 # 2 Timbres . . .

4608=VZ-8m 2004 # 1 + PST1 Op-Mem . . .

3 hours ago, OPunWide said:

I dug up my old ins files and combined them into a single file, and the import was fine. 

To me, this ^^^ is the best thing to do.  In fact, you jogged my memory.  I seem to remember back in the day creating my own Master.ins file that only had the preset / bank variations for my own gear, including visual spaces to better find what I was looking for and notes [as comments]. 

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; ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
.Patch Names

; ===========================================================================
;               PATCH NAMES:     E-Mu
;            --->    P2500 RAM: Electronica in User Bank 0
; ===========================================================================

; ------------------- E-MU P2k: Composer: Bank ROM --------------------------

[E-MU P2k: Electronica: Bank 0 (0)]
0=000^0: rwt:EtherVox
1=001^0: rwt:Movie Magic2
2=002^0: rwt:OBX Brass
3=003^0: rwt:VoxWerks

 

Thanks for bring this issue up thereby jogging my memory.  I have been thinking about setting up some ancient gear.

7 hours ago, Infinitum said:

Of course not!
That link was an old link. I just fixed it. Thanks for noticing. 

Here is the current one for the Free version: https://gigperformer.com/gig-performer-vs-gig-performer-free-comparison 

And this one is for Essentials: https://gigperformer.com/gig-performer-vs-gig-performer-essentials 

Plus, a blog article: https://gigperformer.com/gig-performer-essentials-overview 

The free version is currently only available through the partners channels (i.e. bundled with the partner products). If it becomes available as a separate download, then yes, it will make sense to include all three products.

(1) I am glad you were able to fix the old link.

(2) Is telling you about the old link worth a complimentary upgrade/crossgrade/wantevergrade from GP Free ?  🙂 

Thanks for clarifying that. In the meantime, I loaded a project but with my limited experience using the Track Manager, I didn't notice anything unusual.  Tracks show up as expected in the Track View and the Console View according to my settings. Not doubting your results at all, but maybe others who use the track manager regularly can take a look and see what's going on.   

You seem to have started two topics essentially saying/asking the same thing.  Maybe you are not aware you can edit posts?  So, if you want to reword a post, you don't need to start a new topic; you can just edit the first one..

8 minutes ago, charles kasler said:

I have some instruments in a track folder but they don't show up in console view. I see in the track manager that it is unchecked so I recheck it and they show up until I try to insert a plug-in and they disappear again. It's a bug? Is there a workaround? Thank you

14 minutes ago, charles kasler said:

I have some instruments in a track folder but when I switch from track to console view, they don't show. I go to the track manager and see that it's unchecked, I check it and then they show up. I try to insert a plug-in and they disappear again. Is this a bug? Is there a workaround? Thank you.

  Although I have used the track manager, I don't have as much experience with it as others do; so, as far as how it works (or might have a bug), I defer to others.

56 minutes ago, Scott said:

How do you get the  "Insert Soft Synth Options" screen to pop up?

I think you are asking something like, "If I have the Ask This Every Time button unchecked, how do I get the window to show up so I can check it?"

There may be other ways, but I tend to use the button in the synth rack: 

RE: Synthmaster Player: It has occasionally been available for free, and in fact Synthmaster 2 Player ("normally" $9) is currently free from KV331 (and possibly third party vendors).  Although it might not be specially built for GP Essentials, for some synth players that don't have it (or SM3), it is still a freebie/deal! TBH before taking advantage of an APD deal for SM2 full, I picked up SM2 Player to get a hands-on feel for it.

5 hours ago, Infinitum said:

With Essentials, people can create functional and non demanding setups. For example, for my use case, Essentials is OK. I don't use scripting, OSC, or advanced MIDI processing. Sounds are included (Overloud TH-U and Synth Master Player, built specially for Gig Performer).

1 hour ago, MusicMan said:

. . . for some use cases I can see it making sense. . . .

On 8/1/2025 at 9:39 AM, User 905133 said:

I tried Gig Performer Free and found it unsuitable for my needs (not knocking it for others' needs), so I might give GP another chance. Maybe Essentials will be better suited for my needs.  I just wish the comparison chart also included the GP Free limitations to do a side-by-side comparison.

If the Essentials v Full comparison chart had also included all of the items on the [evidently now removed] Free v. Full comparison chart OR, if the latter chart were still available so I could have compared them myself, I could have seen at a glance that for me looking into Essentials  (such as through the trial) would cost time spent that I could never get back. 

I found the "GP not available through PA anymore . . . " discussion very insightful.  (See link to the thread below.)

@Infinitum Thanks for the comments about your use case scenario, and for mentioning "Sounds are included (Overloud TH-U and Synth Master Player, built specially for Gig Performer)." While that might be one difference between GP Essentials and GP Free, if I have Overloud (or comparable) software and SynthMaster 3, I'd need a whole lot of other uses cases to supplant the usefulness of the full three-column comparison chart.

Perhaps such a chart is in progress and that explains why the GP Free v. GP Full is no longer available? And perhaps since you are part of the Gig Performer Team you can help make it happen sooner rather than later?

3 hours ago, Infinitum said:

The Free version is currently available for partners, such as Octave or Cherry Audio. Its purpose is really to get some insights about how Gig Performer works. No sounds are included.

With Essentials, people can create functional and non demanding setups. For example, for my use case, Essentials is OK. I don't use scripting, OSC, or advanced MIDI processing. Sounds are included (Overloud TH-U and Synth Master Player, built specially for Gig Performer).

The full version is for people that want all the features out there, ranging from sophisticated automation, extensions (e.g. Stream Deck extension) to advanced MIDI processing.  

Thanks for the summary of your intended audiences for the three products, but when I wrote:

On 8/1/2025 at 9:39 AM, User 905133 said:

 I just wish the comparison chart also included the GP Free limitations to do a side-by-side comparison.

I meant a comparison chart which includes not only Gig Performer [full] and Gig Performer Essentials, but a third column that shows a side-by=side comparison with all the features as shown on the Gig Performer [full] and Gig Performer Free comparison chart.**

***Hmmmmmmm. There used to be a Full v. Free feature-by-feature comparison chart, but based on the link in  this post, it seems to be missing:  

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No Results Found

The page you requested could not be found. Try refining your search, or use the navigation above to locate the post.

Is it possible that GP Essentials has the exact same features as GP Free? and that the comparison chart that seems to be missing just got rebranded? If that's the case, why not just come out and say that the features of GP Free and GP Essentials are the same?

36 minutes ago, GTsongwriter said:

When they switched from thier old style installer from version 16 to version 17 it started triggering virus total. I'm wondering if they fixed that issue.

You can test it by downloading it, submitting it, and not running it if you don't like what virus total reports.

59 minutes ago, GTsongwriter said:

Does thier installation still trigger virus total?

Do you mean with a single hit (but none from any other AV) when the installer is submitted? If so, you can test it by downloading it, submitting it, and not running it if you don't like what virus total reports.

For some posts related to recently added Instruments to MSoundFactory, see this thread:

I tried Gig Performer Free and found it unsuitable for my needs (not knocking it for others' needs), so I might give GP another chance. Maybe Essentials will be better suited for my needs.  I just wish the comparison chart also included the GP Free limitations to do a side-by-side comparison.

Thanks for mentioning the new version.

2 hours ago, Jim Stamper said:

The biggest UI item on my wish list BY FAR is please do something to make Folder tracks appear differently than midi & audio tracks . . . .

While you are waiting for some possible visual changes, maybe it would help if you left part of the folder open so the folder details show?

Glad to hear it will meet your needs as a workaround.

FWIW, yesterday I created a custom FX Rack Track Control Preset that had only the FX Rack Track Control checked (for all types). I don't have any of the plugins or audio for the project, but it seems to me the track headers should have FX Bins.  They don't.

I looked to see if there was something in the strip options and some other places that would cause the FX Bins not to show. I couldn't find anything.

I switched to Console View, and that had FX Bins with placeholders for the plugins.

Next I tried the Advanced Workspace, and the FX Bins showed up.**

If you want to try that on a copy (not the original in case it changes something you don't want changed), feel free to see if that will give you a copy with the FX Bibs showing. I'd also want to preserve the original in case someone else wants to figure out what might be going on.

BTW, when I went to close the project (without saving it), I got an "Are you sure?" warning with something about drum maps having been changed would be lost. Not sure if that's because I don't have any of your plugins so it seems like I changed a lot.

I was going to let others try to help solve this, but with the repeated suggestion that the problem is the check boxes in the Track Control Preset, I thought maybe my observations might be helpful. 

**ADDENDUM: I just redid this and then switched to Workspaces = "None." The FX Bins showed up.

Apologies--I am not a baker, but I just checked this because I thought I remembered scrolling while being in the vicinity of the FX Racks.  So, if you hover over the area between the FX Bins and then start scrolling, does the strip scroll? 

14 hours ago, bmarlowe said:

Single key shortcuts can be scary though, you have to be careful. I remember panicking over things like a disappearing control bar (I must have inadvertently pressed "c"). 

Since I almost always use a floating Control Bar. I changed C to Show the Console, not the Control Bar.**  

5 hours ago, onlyinitforthemoney said:

My favorite shortcut was Q for Mute

it was great at the far left of the keyboard wit S, E, D for select erase and draw in piano roll

but they changed it somewhere between Sonar6 and X1

Roland did this i guess

Until a programmer gets bored and change it again

To me customizability has long been the software's best general feature.  In this case even if at some point "a programmer" changes some default you like, you might be able to change them back!!!

**PS: I like the way the Menu Bar items reflect my choices. For example:

Interesting.  Maybe the Reference Guide needs to be revised?