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Thanks. Your reply came in as I was typing the last line in the UPDATE to my post. I can live with the malformed installer box now that I know the process isn't hanging.

Thanks for this tidbit. I believe it helps explain a CbB installation I had yesterday which I have never had before. The installation seemed to hang for several minutes (far more than the usual installation time) while the installation/extraction box was malformed (so I couldn't tell if there was any progress happening): Eventually I looked at my go-to diagnostic tool of first resort (Task Manager) and saw these: My internet connection is not slow, so I suspect maybe what you describe (re: Webview component) prompted my approx.-24-hours-old Win10 update to need MS Edge to be installed/updated. Maybe a component was needed so the installation/extraction box will display properly next time. Not sure if this was coincidental, but your behind-the-scenes tidbit seems to help explain my atypical experience with the CbB installer yesterday. The CbB notification/toaster popup asking me if I wanted to install the EA update caused no issues for me. That part of it (including asking me to shut down CbB and retry) was flawless. UPDATE: I rolled back to 2020-11 and went through the update procedures twice. Each time I had the malformed installer/progress box: However, this time (presumably because I had already updated Edge), the installation only took 3-4 minutes (from the time I shut down CbB and said Retry to the time CbB started launching). There were typical processes running (cryptograhic services, COM surrogate, MS shadow services, Volume services, etc.) that seemed to be reflected in the Windows Task Bar progress meter. I made one more attempt to get the normal installation box after downloading the WebView2 *.cab for my PC and then running the Edge Update Link Jesse posted. Again, I got the malformed box but the update happened in 3-4 minutes.

I use customized Workspaces, but haven't tested mine yet in this release. What do you mean by "save the workspace in perspective?" Thanks. UPDATE: I just changed one of my personal Workspaces ["Console on Monitor 2"] by changing the widths of the 3 panes/sections (tracks, buses, and hardware). After saving it, I switched to some other Workspaces. When I reloaded the newly changed Workspace, it had the width changes. Of course, each personal/customized Workspace depends on the the options to be saved/restored. You probably have different options selected. Below are the ones I used. You probably have different options selected. There are too many possibilities to test them all, but I am interested in figuring out if I have the same problem you had.

Odd that it didn't work. I used *.chm and got over 11,000 hits, including some from MS (9-2020) and Magix (10-2020) as well as Win98SE (4-1999). I spot checked about 50 and approx. 3-4% cannot be opened. In my case it looks like a few HDD recovery disk backups from years ago were not successfully copied.

Glad you mentioned this (re: Korg's USB driver). I will be getting back to setting up a new-to-me PC with Win10 20H2 as a replacement as my main audio productivity PC. I have not yet moved either of my nanoKontrol[1]s or the Korg driver/setup utility to the new PC. For that reason, I have some related questions: After you upgraded to 20H2, did you reinstall/setup the Korg driver/utility without any issues and if so does your Korg nanoK work properly? If so, did you have to do anything special to get it to work? What kind of a removal of the drivers did you do (total/complete removal, device properties uninstall, simple disable, etc.)? I ask because sometimes just disabling a device driver has worked for me to solve other compatibility issues until I have done some more fine tuning. Thanks.

Could you create a second Workspace based on the one that you normally use that has all screens on only your main monitor?

Just a guess, but you wanted the request-new-features/improvements section. From what I have seen this thread is for reporting successes and problems specifically with the current Early Access release.

There are at least three ways to insert a software synth [aka Instrument] that I have used. (1) from the menu [Insert > Soft Synth], (2) from the Browser, (3) by right clicking in the track header area, (4) using the + button in the Synth Rack. Some of the methods have been updated quite a bit fairly recently, including new options in the Insert wizard accessible via insertion method three. The old insertions dialog [the one with the check boxes - synth properties] has been updated, too. I know there are discussions in the forum. Maybe look at some of the New/Updated Features from the past 6-8 months, too. But if you try the three methods above, I think you'll find it to be rather "intuitive" from past versions of SONAR/Cakewalk. There may be other ways, but I like these: (1) (2) (3) (4) For this, I usually use the Split Instrument Track option once the combined track has been made. (See below.) IIRC there are also ways to get separate tracks using the Insert Soft Synth Track wizard [Advanced Options button] and the old check-box dialog method. Those are some of the newer features I had in mind, but I am a slow learner and gravitate towards methods I've used for ages. Splitting tracks using the Advanced button options in the Insert Instrument / Add Track Wizard (method 3 above)--see below. For me, I tend not to do it this way (1) because it is a fairly recent method that (2) has changed a few times over the past year, (3) because different soft synths have differences which produce different track results that boggle my old school mind, and (4) I am so used to just splitting the track it is "intuitive." Not knocking the new methods at all--if I had the mind I had a couple of decades ago, I'd struggle with the newer methods until they became second nature. Hope this helps. BTW, the Enable MIDI Output (if available) checkbox option in the synth properties/ insert soft synth options dialog is relatively new (or had been missing)--from UI change list to a late 2020 update: "Enable MIDI Output check box was missing from Insert Synth Options dialog when opened from the Synth Rack."

I have tried reading a couple of *.ARP files with a Hex Editor--without success. There was nothing obvious to my eye (except the file/arp name) and my file structure mining days are over. For me, I have hardware and software that meets my needs if I can't use the Inspector-based Arpeggiator. It does what it does rather well and seems to me to be consistent in what it does. Sometimes I have found the MFX Arpeggiator useful for some tasks. A thread in a previous forum: FYI.

I have been where you are, too--missing the tools within the Staff View window itself. I do not find the multi-purpose Control Bar Tool Module as handy when I am doing stuff with notes on lines. However, I found out from others here that it used to be worse and some of the Staff View tools were returned. There are several discussions/thread related to newer methods of editing notes. I have been slowly getting used to some of the newer mouse/keypress methods. I suggest looking in the forum index for discussions on the "Staff View."

The Inspector-based Arpeggiator came along (for the most part), while I was doing pattern and song stuff (including arpeggiation) with hardware sound modules (OS-based arpeggiators) and a hardware sequencer/sound module. Maybe some veterans who know about the inner workings of the SONAR/Cakewalk Arpeggiator know. My guess is that to find out how each pattern works you wouldn't have to audition each one, but the logic behind the arpeggiation would emerge by testing a carefully selected sample of the existing patterns. Of course, if there is a guide or someone who can explain it, that would be very handy!!! I don't know if there is a way to edit the *.ARP files themselves to change them. To me it seemed that they were designed to be used by tweaking the parameters in the Inspector section. I'd be interested in answers to the questions you raised, too.

Many older programs and plug-ins that still work under Windows 10 have *.chm help files. For example:

I always assumed they were given abbreviations, descriptive, or made up (e.g., "arpesque") names and plain old sequential numbers.

For printed output (staff view), Cakewalk grabs the information from Notes, which can now be found as a tab in the Browser. Not sure if the export picks it up from there, too. UPDATE: Just did a quick test. Looks like the info comes from Notes, but can be overwritten by checking the Encode ID3 Info box.

Anyone know if the Session plug-ins will work in any DAW (unlike the SONAR Editions)?

It opens up on my PC. I didn't assign a soft synth or route it to a sound module, but in Staff View it looks like music. The transport scrolls and my usb midi interface led flashes on and off indicating note data is being sent out based on the notes. I can try turning on a sound module--what instruments should I try? BTW: starting at 1:01:000, it plays and then loops endlessly from 5:01:000 to 20:04:119. That's the way it was when I opened it. If that were your issue, I'd say turn loop off. But that doesn't sound like its the original issue you had. So I am not sure. Update: It defaulted to a hardware orchestral sound module I have. The three tracks that show me data played.

Thanks for the clarification. I found a picture of AC online "Aaron Copland under umbrella, University of Kansas, 1973." Maybe there are others, too.

nod to little umbrellas, maybe?

Not sure this is the best solution or if it fits with your workflow, but I just clicked on a few non-consecutive notes on the same pitch using Ctrl+Left Click and then changed them in the Event Inspector Module on the Control Bar.

Whitebird (It's A Beautiful Day), Hot Summer Day, too

Just to clarify my previous comments, my second SONAR Essentials 2 code/serial number came from the cash purchase of a second version of SONAR X3 (I bought the second SONAR X3 for a computer my children used thinking they might get into using it.) At no point did I get two Melodyne Essentials codes/serial numbers from the purchase of only one SONAR product or a second code from an upgrade to SONAR Platinum. Thanks for giving me an opportunity to clarify what might have been misinterpreted. Well, I am not sure it explains how/why Celemony detected an installation of Melodyne Studio Demo 4.x version 4.2.4. I did not download it as part of CbB or separately. It does not explain why my first update from Essentials 2 to Essential 4 from 10-2019 couldn't be updated to Essentials 5 but an unused Essentials 2 license was allowed to be updated on 12-07-2020. Maybe it was because I did the updates on the same day as opposed to more than 12 months apart? I read all of the instructions and followed them. In any case, I now have the ability again to do audio-to-midi conversions in CbB. My gut feeling is that something changed sometime between 10-2019 and 12-2020. One of many mysteries!!! ? Who knows? Maybe it was a Windows 10 update that wiped out or reset something. That has been known to happen.

nahhh--its from December 2020--yes, last year, but only last month [December 28, 2020]. Didn't realize the thread had outdated info even though it was less than a month old. I have removed the link. Thanks.

link to outdated information removed

Regarding my Melodyne account and update: On December 7th, 2020, I tried to update my existing Melodyne Essentials 4 which used to work with CbB. It had been one of two Melodyne Essentials 2 I had through SONAR purchases. One had been previously updated to 4 from 2 (I'm not sure when). However, on 12/7/2020, when I tried to update it to Melodyne Essential 5, Celemony wouldn't let me update. At no point did I install CbB's trial version of Melodyne Studio, but somehow Celemony reported this: At that point Celemony only gave me options to purchase a new license. I have no idea why it didn't pick up my existing Melodyne Essentials 4 license that used to work in CbB. So I ended up using my second SONAR Melodyne Essentials 2 code to update first to Melodyne Essentials 4 and then to trade that in for Melodyne Essentials 5.