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No, it shouldn't if the synth is disconnected (or archived).

Yes, I agree, I can only speak for myself. We have freezing and bounce through a dialog, I was asking for a third option - say I have a synth loaded and record some ideas in MIDI, have PRV open in multidock if I want to edit some notes, then I'd like to select fragment of MIDI that I like and just drag it onto an audio track to get audio clip instantly with bounce executed in the background on the fly. That way I could collect some audio clips for my project, from an opened synth, while experimenting with different presets and melodies and without closing the synth or loosing MIDI. Not having to go through a pop-up dialog every time would be an alleviation. Typically synths have their own effects so the tail would have to be added, or make it an option. EDIT: to sum up, the freeze is for taking the load off CPU and RAM, bounce to tracks is useful if the MIDI track (or multiple tracks) is ready for bouncing to audio, but in that particular scenario bounce the selection on-the-fly (and what-you-hear) would be best for collecting single audio blocks from synth plugins, sometimes it's just as much as hitting one note or a chord and then skipping to the next preset .

Will, I'm not sure I understand you correctly, my basic English might be getting in the way. What I tried to say in my short post above was that Cakewalk is missing that simplified feature: select some MIDI then just drag it onto audio track, perhaps with the ALT key or another if that's necessary, and receive an audio clip, with bouncing in the background. The two options whether you like to have the FX and tail backed-in or not are welcome too. Right now we can't do this without a bounce dialog pop-up or unless we freeze the whole track. That's essentially the same what you are asking for, if I understand you right, with the main difference that dragging is just one click-operation, as opposed to two clicks if you're going for right-click menu. Plus with dragging you have the freedom to place it wherever you like, just as it is now when working with clips. There could be a third way to drag with the right mouseclick and once we drop the 'ghost clip', at the mouse button release, we could get the a pop-up menu with the choice for bouncing to audio but that's, again, two clicks. Converting a MIDI clip to audio in-place to keep it in the same MIDI or Instrument track is not a good option, especially if it's a MIDI track where you can't process it further with audio effects. In my scenario you would want to: drag MIDI clip onto audio track to move the MIDI clip and bounce to audio on-the-fly or CTRL+drag to copy and bounce-to-audio, but keep the MIDI clip and of course be able to use SHIFT to keep the relative position on the Time Bar That's basically how working with clips is now. Then once it is dropped as audio, in the audio track you can do all your splits and edits freely, and apply effects as you like.

I'm guessing with the send/return faders

At the beginning of second episode he says "and in the end of the series I'm gonna show you how you can do it inside your DAW"

conclusion

just select MIDI, drag onto audio track and get audio clip... very simple, very efficient, very missing in Cakewalk

something like Transform Tool for tempo view could be handy at times

Maybe it's got something in common with CLA's online mixing course that's on waves website? The second episode is live now. Then the new plugin could have a name: The returns of CLA

Dry audio output and then just copy the content of fx bin over to the new track? Could work... and there's nothing like that in Cakewalk iirc. The tail would have to be added anyway because of the synth's internal effects.

That's why, in addition to what we have already, I proposed *A NEW OPTION* to move or copy a MIDI clip or it's portion to a new place in the project with MIDI-to-audio bounce on the fly (no bounce dialog window pop-up, just pure WYHIWYG - effects and the tail applied, same as to what does freezing output) without any change to the other two - freeze and Bounce to Tracks - methods. Then each of us could use his preferred method. The new method could speed up the workflow considerably in some cases during music production... EDIT: repeating myself but sometimes just all I need is open a synth and produce several audio clips with it without closing of freezing the synth.

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Just wondered how a dry reverb could sound...?

Since we're on that subject... there's no way that any, I mean any, kind of sampler could integrate with the DAW at the level of a sampler track, no matter how simple or sophisticated it is, it will always need to be loaded first before we can proceed with working on the sample, taking extra resources and getting somehow in the way every time we reach for the next sample. Here's perfect opportunity for the DAW to reach out to the user.

@Will_Kaydo this has been already answered here:

Mark, the next update will be an update to the 2020.11 release or you mean the whole next release? Thx

... and there's sampler tracks

I'm sure soon or later they will be emulated

Could it be somehow related to this another person's issue reported here?

The only thing I consider dated here is when I have Cakewalk open using always dark skin (Tungsten), then they are hurting my eyes while working with them. Didn't expect making an alternative dark skin for them would be so troublesome.

You're better off to mention it in the 2020.11 feedback thread so that they could see it now and take into consideration while they're still red-hot from working on it.

I actually like it, it's like WYHIWYG (what you hear is what you get) @ 32bit floating point (in default setting) meaning most seamless MIDI-to-audio.

No it wouldn't require to convert it to wave track, that's what freeze is already. If you see my previous post above, I specifically said about another, or new, audio track: "drag a clip or selection of MIDI to another audio track (or empty space to create a new track) - with a key modifier - to bounce MIDI to audio clip on the fly". So there is freeze for instant MIDI-to-audio where no additional settings are involved (but you loose further access to MIDI unless you unfreeze back again) and it's best if you want to turn the whole midi track to audio and only work in audio from now on. The other two methods I know for bouncing MIDI to audio are Bounce to Tracks where a few additional steps are required on a settings page meaning no on-the-fly in practice, and export to audio file and then drag it from browser or explorer into project afterwards but that's even more steps. What I suggested is something between freezing and bounce to tracks, an instant MIDI-to-audio but leaving MIDI untouched and placing audio clip on another track with automatically tail being added. Like I said, useful for example if you want to keep your synth open and just make different melodic ideas in a MIDI track using different synth presets and immediately drag them directly into your audio part of the project with a single step. Hard to believe only me and Will see that useful... EDIT: actually I see that Will has another use for it but the idea stays the same We're nearly 2021 in digital era, we'd love our DAWs make as many tedious tasks for us and take the daunting part of the job out of equation, no?

+1 oh yes! where can I download? it's beautiful