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I ran across this post at HP Support:

HP Spectre x360 - 13-aw0111tu - DPC Latency and Realtime Audio Issues

https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Audio/HP-Spectre-x360-13-aw0111tu-DPC-Latency-and-Realtime-Audio/td-p/7534940

1 hour ago, David Grammerstorf said:

So... what now? In HP's "Command center" I've set the Device Mode to "performance." (This seems to be HP's system for managing power throttle/battery

Try losing the HP "Command Center". Often times the unnecessary "extras" that are preinstalled by the PC manufacturer can interfere with real-time audio.

That is why some music production folks feel it worth the effort to wipe the drive of a store bought PC, and then clean install Windows from scratch, using Windows Media Creation tool, and not the manufacturers system recovery.

7 minutes ago, mettelus said:

AAX... What dat?? ?

élastiqueAAX is a time-stretching and pitch-shifting solution for Pro Tools.

What dat?

On 11/25/2020 at 2:24 PM, abacab said:

Z3TA+2 and DimPro have individual installers in Command Center. I think for the original classic z3ta+ that was bundled with certain versions of Sonar,  you would need to run the Sonar installer and then select that plugin from the bundle.

scook is correct, none of them are locked to Sonar.

You can find z3ta classic in this installer included in the Platinum Instrument Collection.

1 hour ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said:

For Platinum, the installation is automated and you have no control over what gets installed other than knowing which gets installed in each of the 10+ packages in Command Center.

Here are my standalone installers for Z3TA+2 and Dim Pro shown in my Command Center. Z3TA+2 was standalone purchase, while the Dim Pro license was included with Sonar Platinum.

19 hours ago, Billy86 said:

 After you’ve set up the multi, I’d save the multi as some has mentioned doing, then close the instance of Kontakt, then reopen it. Sometimes, some tasks in Kontakt have to be closed/reopened to take affect. Saving the multi you’ve set up allows you to easily reload it as a failsafe. 

Thanks for that tip! When I followed the method suggested by msmcleod to add instruments one at a time, everything lined up OK channel wise, but I noticed that I was only getting sound on channel 4 no matter what I did. I had inserted 4 instruments as a test.

So then I saved and closed my project. When I re-opened it, everything was playing fine!

55 minutes ago, msmcleod said:

For Kontakt, what I tend to do is add a single per-output track for the first instrument, then:

1. Add another instrument in Kontakt
2. Run the outputs batch script to add the outputs
3. Use "Append Instrument Track" for each of the instruments.

You can do this for each time you add a new instrument.

@msmcleodThat method does work great! At first I wasn't sure if you meant that initially you added a "simple" instrument track for the first instrument, but I did that and everything else fell into place. ?

Keeps things nice and tidy in the track view and console (no extra MIDI tracks), with every thing lined up channel wise between Cakewalk tracks and the Kontakt multi. Plus you can have the MIDI data for each instrument on it's own track.

I never tried the "Append Instrument Track" feature before, but that seems exactly what it was intended for. ?

Thanks!

2 hours ago, Billy86 said:

What version of Kontakt are you using?

I'm using Kontakt 6.4.2 Player.

11 minutes ago, MisterGreen said:

The weird part is that everything sounds fine and looks to be working correctly. However, if I look at the track where instrument #8's audio is coming out, its input is "aux 2/aux 3: Stereo" rather than as it's shown in the Kontakt mixer (Trombone 15/16).

That seems to be what I got as well. The track assignments in Cakewalk don't match the newly reassigned outputs in Kontakt. But the right sounds come out. I see that the channels in Cakewalk stay as they are, and the ones in Kontakt get switched as far as the channel names. So in absolute order of 1-16 they are correct.

I opened up the same test multi in Studio One to compare with, and see the same thing in the default channel order over there. It's apparently the way the plug-in communicates the internal channels to the host when it is inserted. Then when you update them within the plug-in, the host stays the same.

19 minutes ago, InstrEd said:

To the Point of No Return ?

Or until we are all dust in the wind...

4 minutes ago, InstrEd said:

Where are the free lessons to play like him

Carry on wayward son...

And a tip...

You can save your Kontakt multis within Kontakt, and recall them later in another project. They are portable and will follow the plug-in.

If you save your Cakewalk multi setup as a project template, you can also recall that later. Save some work!

4 minutes ago, msmcleod said:

Once you've added your Kontakt instruments, select the following from the Output section:



This will create separate audio outputs for each of the instruments loaded.

 

@msmcleodThanks! I might have done that, and that's what finally got it working last night... 

I think it may have been the shot of Jameson that got me over the hump! ?

6 hours ago, Vernon Barnes said:

Gets to the point where its quicker to dial in the setting than it is to trawl through hundreds of presets. Very true of a Hammond but also simpler synths like a Minimoog.

Ahhh.. the joys of analog! But with the advantage of saving and recalling your presets...

But don't bother asking what I did step by step in Kontakt. It was New Years Eve, and I was already several beers deep when I started experimenting... ?

The part that I don't yet understand is why the channel assignment names in Cakewalk don't appear to match up with those in the Kontakt GUI, although the instruments are assigned to the first 8 stereo pairs on either one.

For example, in Cakewalk the names of the first 8 stereo pairs are still in order of the initial insert instance of Kontakt with the master stereo pair, followed by the 4 aux pairs, and then 3 of the unassigned pairs 1, 3, and 5.

But for the re-assigned outputs in the Kontakt GUI the instruments are now on 1/2, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8, 9/10, 11/12, 13/14, and 15/16. With the Aux channels at the end, and unused.

Apparently the channels in Cakewalk will not get updated when you make changes in Kontakt, but the signals end up in the same order on the first 8 pairs. So bottom line the sounds appear in the right order in the Cakewalk mixer. This is either weird, or possibly I have no idea what I'm doing, LOL! But it works!

And here's the Cakewalk mixer view. Maybe some more useful clues shown here in the channel assignments...

@MisterGreenI'm not a regular user of multis in Kontakt, but your question inspired me to experiment a bit.

In Cakewalk, try inserting the Kontakt VST soft synth as shown in the graphic. This will initially result in the Cakewalk mixer with a Kontakt stereo master, followed by the 4 stereo aux channels, followed by the rest of the channels as "unassigned" from Kontakt.

The next step is dependent entirely on how you re-configure the Kontakt outputs.

I would recommend reading the Kontakt 6 manual, section 16, "The outputs section",  to reconfigure the Kontakt instruments to the available unassigned stereo channels as needed. You may need to experiment with this, but I finally got 8 instruments in Kontakt routing to the first 8 stereo channel strips in Cakewalk. It's probably a good idea to save this config as a template if you succeed. It all seems a bit convoluted. Good luck!

28 minutes ago, husker said:

Well, the price is now $135, so it ended early.  That makes my decision easy.

Yep, that's the same thing @InstrEdjust reported. It seems they ended the sale early in the UK, prior to the official PreSonus end at 11:59 PM CST.

PreSonus still has the offer direct for $104.97, so not as tempting... I understand that you are well situated with Cubase now.

But $79 was very close to no-brainer territory! ?

Happy New Year!

33 minutes ago, InstrEd said:

Just tried it and comes up $135 -$20promo. I'm in no rush. I got Studio One when Sonar stopped. I want to have it as my other to go to DAW. So when it is a great sale I will upgrade. Happy New Year everyone!

That's weird, because I tested it in the cart right before that last post, and it was $99 base price. Sorry it didn't work out when you tried! Maybe PreSonus pulled their sale early for UK?

Happy New Year as well!

Happy New Year!!! ?

My wallet is safe, at last! ?

5 hours ago, cclarry said:

https://www.musictech.net/features/awards/best-daw-2020/

Full disclosure: MusicTech is owned by BandLab Technologies (scroll to the bottom of the web page).

Am I the only one that noticed that? Especially since Cakewalk received a "Highly commended" mention.

Yup, state sales taxes for online purchases are real for most in the US now.