abacab

I would imagine that in addition to playing style, that playing leads or bass lines should give better detection accuracy than strumming chords. Monophonic vs. polyphonic.

Band in a Box can be another offender, although you have more choioces. Even though you tell  the installer to install the RealTracks and RealDrums content elsewhere, if you take the default for the main BB folder, it goes onto (C:). I assumed that would only be the program and resources folders, but it was about another 20GB on my system with the UltraPak version.

At least the installer lets you choose a different folder for that at install time. So I uninstalled it and reinstalled the entire thing on my (D:) drive.

2 minutes ago, Glenn Stanton said:

yeah, my Waves folder is about the @ 9.6GB (after clearing cache and using on v11/v12 plugins), Slate @ 7.7GB, CbB @ 3.5GB (Dim Pro, etc), Kontakt libraries @ 15GB total - but they're all on the D drive where i have content and project files.

Good point. Definitely also clear your Waves Central cache. I always seem to end up with a few GB left in there after I install plugin updates.

I am only showing 3MB  in there now, but I recently cleared a bunch out of there as well.

2020.11 still good here.

On 1/22/2021 at 9:48 AM, RICHARD HUTCHINS said:

Hi,

After much useful advice and help from this forum looking for a good MIDI piano sound, I chose addictive keys Grand Piano plugin, sounds nice and is fine. However when I record a piano backing track ready for vocals, the recording  sounds quiet through the phones even when they are turned up full through my Steinberg UR22  interface. This is not the case when I record things like vocals or guitar so I assume its a MIDI thing. How do I get this to have more volume? ( Novice here obviously).It sounds fine but quiet if you know what I mean. 

The piano seems to be very velocity sensitive. I would suggest that you check your MIDI controller's velocity curve settings, and the velocity settings in the Cakewalk track. Mine is set to [Vel+ ='0'] there as well. You could also review a MIDI clip that you have recorded and see the recorded velocity levels for that track in the piano roll.

1 hour ago, bitflipper said:

I'm curious...what kinds of file extensions do you see in there?

Basically all of the resources that make the Waves plugins tick, for every Waves version I have ever had installed. Except for the Waveshell VST and VST3 files, which are where you would expect them to be, in their respective plugin paths.

Here is a link to a tune by Kenny that he played guitar and guitar synth on. Nice example of good playing and excellent result!

47 minutes ago, John Vere said:

https://godinguitars.com/product/xtsa-lightburst-flame

The XTsa I also have the Godin 5 string Bass. They actually belong to my son but spend more time at my place than his. We both have way to many guitars and we're not done yet. 

 

I just downloaded the Jam Origin MIDI guitar and give it a try tonight. 

 

I'm not a guitar player, but do have a bass. Kenny told me about Jam Origin because it has a bass version, and I was asking him if it would do bass.

I believe if you buy it, you get both versions.

1 minute ago, Michael McBroom said:

Agreed. I will be pulling the ATA drive's plug when I tear into the case to see if it makes a difference. It would be nice to resolve the conflict though, rather than just having to yank out a drive.

Well one thing you never know until you try it, but maybe Windows 10 will handle it better? Good luck!

2 minutes ago, Michael McBroom said:

Ah, ok, well I don't have any idea. These drives may be kinda old but for ATA drives they're kinda new -- 500 GB and 750 GB each.

I understand. But in any case your DPC numbers for that driver were way too high, so best to find some way to rule it out via testing, process of elimination.

9 minutes ago, jsg said:

When I finish a composition I convert the Cakewalk file into a MIDI file type 1 and open it up in Sibelius to create the score.  I do this on an office computer, not in my production studio.  But I cannot get MIDI to sound using Windows 10 and a built in sound card on the motherboard. For some reason both Cakewalk and Sibelius don't recognize this as a valid sound card.

Short of buy an inexpensive internal card, is there a way to get these programs to work with MIDI?

Why does it need to be an internal card?

There are now many very good inexpensive choices in the USB2 interface market. You can set them up to work both with Windows audio, and any music programs you use. Just make sure to use a common sampling rate for everything. Come to think of it, that might be your issue with the current setup.

The only thing I use TTS-1 for is to preview a GM MIDI file. Other than that I avoid it like the plague.

Many folks have reported horror stories while using it for production. I'm really not that surprised, as ancient as it is.

4 hours ago, rsinger said:

Capture the audio and use Melodyne to convert to MIDI. Do you have the polyphonic version? There is also Jam Origin. It converts audio to MIDI. I haven't tried it.

https://www.jamorigin.com/

 

One of the forum members @kennywtelejazz here swears he has gotten good results with Jam Origin MIDI Guitar.

4 hours ago, Starise said:

I sometimes use the Fat Channel in Cakewalk. The effects in SO5 have been compared to top notch effects. I see them as a few steps above the factory plugins included with most DAWs IMO. I have a lot of the Waves plugins and I think they compare favorably.

I sometimes wish that PreSonus would open up their instruments in the same way. I rarely use them because they are locked to Studio One, but they seem decent. I just don't wish to waste my time learning them if they cannot be used elsewhere. Or having to replace them if I move a project to another DAW.

1 hour ago, Michael McBroom said:

Abacab, that's a good idea about the converter. I didn't think it was possible, since HDMI carries audio as well as video. Shoot, I'll get me one of those. That might go a long way toward solving my problem -- with my dual monitor setup not working, at the very least.

Those old ATA drives aren't SCSI. I used to run SCSI drives on an older system way back when, it required  its own SCSI card and a terminator at the end of each SCSI chain. Cool old tech, that.

Will, thanks for the tips. My system's recording and playback figures match, and have matched for a long time. Cakewalk and my sound card's numbers also have corresponded to these values for an equally long time.  Also, this machine does not have -- and won't ever have, if I can help it -- ASIO4All installed. I really don't care for that product.

The DVI adapter won't carry audio, just the video. I used DVI for years between a PC and my living room TV and had to run a separate audio cable to the TV. But in your case not an issue since you probably don't want audio running to your monitor anyway. HDMI is very similar to DVI, but doesn't include audio.

For the drives, I wasn't meaning they were actually SCSI drives, but for some reason they are apparently using the ATAPI driver (nothing else on-board seems to be), which I wouldn't expect from a typical IDE drive. (In fact, some early ATAPI devices were simply SCSI devices with an ATA/ATAPI to SCSI protocol converter added on). Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATA_Packet_Interface

15 hours ago, Michael McBroom said:

Regarding earlier comments about my DVD drive being ATAPI, it isn't. It's SATA. This drive is the newest component in my system. I bought it just a couple months ago.

Is ATAPI for optical drives only? I ask, because I have a couple of old hard drives in my system that are ATA drives with their 30-pin cables (or 50 pin or whatever they are).

After you ruled out the optical drive as using SATA, and from what you said about your older HDD's being connected by PATA (parallel ATA) ribbon cables, I suppose that the HDD's may be the reason that driver is in use.

In my experience, have only seen ATAPI used with optical drives, but if those old drives are using internal SCSI, that may be why. ATAPI allows for SCSI commands over ATA.

15 hours ago, Michael McBroom said:

About my Asrock 890GX Pro 3 mobo, I dunno, maybe I got an early one? Abacab, you're showing specs that indicate it having HDMI, but mine doesn't. Wish it did, obviously.

You can get a DVI to HDMI converter for $4.69 + free shipping from Newegg.

https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-ea-ad-dvi2hdmi-mf-dvi-to-hdmi/p/N82E16812119962.

5 hours ago, GaleOm said:

I thought that they opened just Analog Effects for other DAW-s but there are also Ampire, Pedalboard and Fat Channel.

Ampire, Pedalboard, and Fat Channel have all been available as VST3 for some time via PreSonus Hub. The Analog Effects were just added.

Yes that works if you are a Pro user.

Add "Analog Effects Collection" to your cart for $79, login to your account, at checkout you will have a coupon added that makes the total $0. Complete the purchase.

Then launch PreSonus Hub, and "Analog Effects Collection" will be added as an available install! Make sure to close Studio One before running the install!

They are then available as plugins for other DAWs.

I have the A-300PRO, and yes it is a hassle to set up. The A-PRO series was originally produced by Roland back when they owned Cakewalk years ago.

But to my knowledge that was the only purpose built keyboard controller series ever made for Cakewalk.

There are other keyboards that will work, but all will require some user configuration. In any case, if you are comfortable setting up MIDI CC's, and using MIDI learning, you should be able to get some satisfaction from any generic MIDI keyboard.

It seems that generally hardware manufacturers only supply plug and play templates for some major commercial DAWs. Check their specs carefully for compatibility.

No problems here at all with v12.

Win 10 Pro 2004, Intel Core i5-9600K, 16 GB DDR4 2666, Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 Gen 3 ASIO, Samsung EVO 860, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650.

9 minutes ago, John Vere said:

It would be a shame to kill your DVD drive. I use mine a lot to burn CD's to proof mixes. Modern drives are SATA however yours  is possibly ATA. 

Only suggested that as a test. Troubleshooting 101.

Gotta rule it in or out somehow.

Mine is SATA. His should be too, just by looking at the mobo specs. Mystery is why is the ATAPI driver being loaded. Maybe it's Win 7 thing that needs ATA driver support ? I don't see ATAPI on my Win10 here.

Could always rename the driver and reboot, see if the drive still works.  https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/890GX Pro3/index.asp

1 hour ago, Michael McBroom said:

I tried a new, but older model of ATI Radeon when I suspected this NVidia card of beginning to fail. Couldn't get the video to come up. I even had their tech support in on it. The conclusion was that my system just wasn't compatible. I don't recall the model number of the card, but it was new about a year ago, priced the same as the NVidea (about $40), and I subsequently found out that, even though new, it was old tech. So,  I dunno. Find maybe an 8 or 9 you Radeon with HDMI on eBay?

The ASRock site says the 890GX Pro 3 mobo had this for onboard graphics:

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Integrated AMD Radeon HD 4290 graphics, DX10.1 class iGPU, Shader Model 4.1

Graphics Output Options : D-Sub, DVI-D and HDMI

I would pull the NVIDIA card and try running with the onboard video, at least as a test. You would do better without the DPC numbers shown for that NVIDIA driver.

Here is my LatencyMon Driver Report. Notice the NVIDIA Kernel Mode Driver highest execution time is .17ms here:

22 minutes ago, John Vere said:

Looking at the 3rd screen shot I see the #1 spot is ataport.sys. I googled this and there sure is a lot of issues with audio ( on board) and hi DPC due too this driver. Not sure what is actually does there's not much about that part.

I spotted that ataport.sys on Michael's screenshot too. The DPC numbers look way too high for audio. ATAPI devices include CD-ROM and DVD-ROM drives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATA_Packet_Interface

I would see if there is a way to disable your optical drive in the BIOS, or at least in Windows device manager. Maybe even rename the driver to ataport.bak extension to keep it from loading when Windows boots up.