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It's interesting that in a time where many people have less money to spend, the prices of several plugin providers have raised significantly (>20%)!

It will! I am also using 2022.11, since the latest version does not support offline authorization until now! ? But I had re-authorized my pcs before the old offline-auth was abandoned.

It's not buying a package what I've meant, it's more the ones with a hundred of separate add-ons (like e.g. Overloud) that are costly in the end! And the other question to you: Do you really use most amps, cabs in the package? In packages I often use barely 20%. Hence it is not really a deal! ? What I forgot to mention (one time positive ?) is that there are some amp packages (e.g. like Guitar Rig ?) that are not so update prone and the reason is that they do not have add-on philosophy!

I like the older stand-alone amps from Audio Assault, have most of them. But the new model with amp-locker where amps and pedals are hoarded and are add-ons is not my taste (like IK, Overloud, ...). I hate that these kind of hubs grow in size, have so many updates to no avail (if you do not buy the new add-ons) and are so huge on the screen. And in the end the add-on style is more expensive. But YMMV.

IMHO this is definitely a good example of a failed software design by Celemony (but they are by far not the only ones in that boat)! For me it would absolutely make more sense to store the rendering cache somewhere in the project folder instead! If you want to clean a project, then everything belonging to the project should be in there (except audio files that the user explicitly links from another place as it is possible in CbB and some other daws).

It is sad that such a big company is not able to show the current versions and changelog on the download page! There it is still 2.6.0, resp. 2.7.0 !

Wanted to get console AMEK. But regrettably it has no direct value input and for a channel strip this is crucial for me (have some others that support it)! I'll pass! Other than that there are only bits and bobs that I don't have and are interested in a bit! So no PA again!

I have the Aurora choir from ARIA and I am not convinced of this product at all! Was wasted money!

Forgot to add: One thing that I hate with all these machine authorizations (e.g. Splat, CbB) is that you don't know on what components they are based! Like that it is always a surprise when you change, remove or add a system component whether they still work! It is totally user-unfriendly!!

AFAIK it won't stop as long as you do not change your system! The only difference to X3 or older versions is that Splat needs online authorization for a new or changed system.

IIRC Sonar does not need a phone home connection (I have Sonar installed now for a decade). Once authorized it keeps that authorization on the machine as long nothing is changed! No most software does not require a checkin (I could list easily more than 100 examples), but you're right about the examples above! Furthermore it is a difference if it needs checkin for one time per machine (Cherry/Toontrack) and then keeps authorization or not (like CbB)!

For me a reason could be the authorization. I could accept an ongoing authorization for the free product, but I am not willing to PAY for something like that! It's not future-safe at all, IMHO! But it's also true for me: I have invested so much learning in this DAW that I rather would like to keep it! Other than the authorization it could be that some minor things have been removed/changed that I liked so much (multiple plugin layouts, external plugin manager, Radius stretch methods, the way of comping, ...). We'll see!

Regrettably I cannot run it, because I only have Kontakt 6 (7 required)!

Yes, it is a trend, but still there are a some others! It would make the decision very easy for me, if the new Sonar had a time limited activation (re-activation needed)! Then I will surely pass! (I accepted it for a free product, but would never for a payed one!) I don't think this is the main reason! I am sure it is more this big brother thing a) for the marketing department and b) to force users to new versions! Poor guy! ? I have quite a lot of actual software that does not depend on online nag. The last 2 years I focus my purchases on this! But there are also some companies that are on a black list because of their activation! ? The minimum requirement for me is offline activation (this is also fulfilled with iLok!) and most companies still support this.

It's a pity that most of these K-Player libraries are not available as K-Full version! ? I hate to install with NA and secondly, the Kontakt Libraries panel gets even more overcrowded!

Thanks! But too late, I grabbed the W495 although I had already a bulk of EQs/strips that I probably never use! ?

Regrettably it was not possible to get another copy of PolyMAX (2 additional iLok seats), if you already have it in your PB account!

I interpret the point in time of this popup that the bakers have overrated themselves! It seems there is more effort necessary as they have expected! I guess that they had thought at this time they would have released the new Sonar for a while. But maybe I'm wrong!

Wow, what great hardware deals you have in the U.S. ! Regrettably our deals are far from that!

I have forgotten: Also the move around/link of the blobs after installation with the install manager is harebrained! This (sample location) is a step backwards with almost all installation managers of all brands!

The almighty online madness and install manager madness! ? They cost me hours of installation and backup trouble! Oh well, how I am lucky with the hated iLok authorizations! They make life really easier than such sh..!

It's strange, I hate the UJAM authorization and installation so much! Usually I avoid to get something from such providers, but with all those freebies and good deals the list of my UJAM plugins has grown anyway! ?

I totally agree! For me the threshold for an impulsive buy is definitely too high if the price inc. VAT is $31.25 (25+25%)! The chance to get something for a lower value is almost zero, because there is rarely an offer for $44.99 (=$25.00 for me after voucher and VAT). Beside the aspect that I already have a large PA collection it would require that I really want a plugin for the new prices and there is none!

Generally you're right! But for me it is sometimes very difficult to be disciplined with a DAW and the endless plugin gear! In the 80s with my 8-track tape recorder and a few hardware units it was that much easier to be concentrated on the recording, on the song! But what I really like nowadays are the extended possibilities for post production, like some mentioned above. Although it takes a lot of time, you are able to squeeze out a miracle of a less than average performance/recording. With regard to song creation I do it still the old way, i.e. the song is almost finished before I start working in a DAW. However, it takes too much time to adjust the instrumentation and find the right vsti's and presets for the open keyboard and/or classical instrument additions.

The update is also available for RX10 Standard.