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Yeah, that's fine by me. As long as he's not air guitaring to someone else's playing
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Oh, I forgot to respond to this part. I def respect your honesty. I dealt with addiction years ago myself. I don't judge anyone for past addiction esp when theyre honest about it. I also wanted to say something about integrity. I think we all have integrity in diff areas of our lives and we all can lie to ourselves in diff areas. Ive just always been someone with a very soft conscience. I feel guilty VERY easily. I actually sold cars for a few years and my sales managers used to get frustrated with me cause I had trouble lying to people. I esp hated making extra finance points on single moms and poor people, only to see rich people come in and pay only $200 over invoice. I HATED the injustice of it. But I'd be lying if I didn't say that I compromised my own principles on occasion. So I can't throw stones at others. We're ALL sinners in my book.
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I agree, it is a fascinating subject. And yeah, I think Joey & Erik's shame was it's own punishment. I also have to add... The more of a fan u are of an artist that does that, the more u feel deceived & duped. Me & my best friend were big fans of "Joey's" guitar work. It's kind of like being attracted to a woman because she has a great butt and later marrying her only to find out that she had butt implants the whole time. π I also think that you, a non fan, are able to be more philosophical about it because you were never emotionally invested in it (imagine finding out that Joe Pass or Wes Montgomery was a faker). For me & my buddy, 80's Hard Rock guitarists were like sports heros to us. And now we find out that Joey and Erik were on the juice bigtime. I dont believe Warrant ever won any awards but if they had, I think they should be stripped away ala Lance Armstrong. π
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I had to come back to concede something to you Krupa. You worded it as "offered the choice". And I feel very certain where I would stand on that. But the truth is, I can't truly judge someone unless I know the whole situation. The more I think about it, I bet Joey & Erik were VERY sweet talked and probably guilt tripped too. They probably told them things like, "Mike will just play on a couple solos and it'll just be for this one album. And Mike will even give you guys lessons so pretty soon we wont even need him". And "You don't wanna hold back your friends do you?" Also I know how it is to be like brothers in a band. You dont wanna hold them back and you also don't wanna lose your best friends and the songs u wrote together. Btw, I just looked it up and Joey is from Indiana and Warrant was together for 3 1/2 years before getting signed. So I'm sure the band had become his new family. That really is a bi*ch of position to be put in. But I guess my main point is that there SHOULD be a price to be paid for misleading your fans like that. It SHOULD hurt your reputation. If not, the concept of integrity means nothing. If someone considers themself an artist, then artistic honesty should be greatly valued otherwise it's all just merchandising and BS. That's why the music business is what it is these days. Intellectual property & artistic integrity have become greatly undervalued. It seems like everyone is just trying to shortcut putting in the hard work. Plus, now the world has AI to write it's songs. That's a very sad thing to me.
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No offense my friend but that sounds to me like ur telling on yourself a bit. Would YOU compromise your principles if the pot was sweet enough? My confidence on this comes from knowing myself well. I never valued fame or money that much. Esp not enough to mislead people into thinking someone else's artistic work is mine. I NEED to be able to look myself in the mirror and I deeply value integrity. (Whether u believe that or not is up to you) And you're right, back in the 80s, it wasn't like the beach boys, the byrds or steely dan(which wasnt even a real band for the most part). When it came to 80s guitar, someone who was very talented on their instrument was held in high regard. They were musical heros. Joey Allen knew that VERY well. That's why he cringed at the idea of using a ringer. I guarantee you he had trouble looking himself in the mirror over that back then. (And I bet it still makes him cringe a bit) Also, Mike Slamer wasn't a "guest' musician brought in for just a song or two. Bottom line, all the best & most impressive guitar work on both of Warrant's big abums are not done by either of Warrant's guitarist. I find that sad. You can disagree. And you're right, that doesn't take away from the music but it absolutely takes away from Joey & Erik's legacy. And btw, it's not just about Mike's technical "athleticism", Mike created very musical & beautiful solos. He was the REAL guitar hero. ( I will give Joey and Erik some points for taking lessons from Mike and trying to get better but it's still sad to me). I also disagree with u on the Milli Vanilli thing. They HAD to lie about who was singing because they didnt sing AT ALL on their album π. Nobody wouldve bought their album If they knew they were just good looking models who were lip syncing. Lastly, I have no problem with someone using studio tricks to make their recordings sound great. As long as they're not being misleading about using someone else's work and they can do their songs justice live, I'm great with it. Afterall, that's what most bands do. Btw, I still love u yeah Krupa. You're just a smarter business man than me. After all, my lofty pride & integrity aint exactly paying the bills π
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I was recently watching this interview with Joey Allen, one of the two guitarist in Warrant. We didn't know it back in the '80s but they're producer brought in a ringer guitarist named Mike Slamer who played all the more difficult and better guitar solo parts. I'm amazed that the comments are 99% positive. Joey is a super nice guy but that's some Milli Vanilli sh*t in my book. I'd rather be broke & anonymous than rich & famous miming to someone else's talents and creativity. Oh, I feel a sneeze coming... AaaaaaPOSER!!! π
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Dean Martin, You're Nobody Til Somebody Loves You
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Cinderella, Nobody's Fool
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Pink Floyd, Nobody Home
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John Lennon, Nobody Told Me
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David Lee Roth, I Ain't Got Nobody
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Louis Prima, I Ain't Got Nobody
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Groundbreaking pieces of music (in your opinion)
T Boog replied to Mr No Name's topic in The Coffee House
Super Furry Animals, God! Show Me Magic Super Furry Animals broke new ground by combining genres like Electronic, Indie & Psychedelic Pop and the result wasn't quite as terrible as you think it would be. Considering the very low bar set by other UK bands in the mid 90's, Super Furry Animals are actually somewhat tolerable. If you don't have access to some real, quality music like Van Halen or Guns-N-Roses, checkout Super Furry Animals. π -
The Real Story of How Linda Ronstadt Helped Launch The Eagles:
T Boog replied to Old Joad's topic in The Coffee House
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The Real Story of How Linda Ronstadt Helped Launch The Eagles:
T Boog replied to Old Joad's topic in The Coffee House
I don't know but Linda's not supposed to be launching Eagles. According to Google... "Under the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act, it is generally illegal to take, possess, sell, or otherwise harm bald or golden eagles, their nests, or eggs without a permit from the Secretary of the Interior". If Linda Ronstadt had just left the Eagles in their natural habitat, Glenn Frey would probably still be alive. Dumb Bi*ch! -
Peter Frampton, Show Me The Way
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Groundbreaking pieces of music (in your opinion)
T Boog replied to Mr No Name's topic in The Coffee House
i think if it's not obvious why it was groundbreaking, some explanation would be polite IMO, Cowboy was the first good mix of Rap, Country & Rock combined. I'm honestly not a big fan of Rap or Country but I think Kid Rock did a good job of combining everything. He threw the concept of 'genre' out the window. And it's hard to argue that it went over big. I think it helped break down some of the walls of Country music. As far as Van Halen's Eruption, I know it's not your thing pwal but Eruption was a complete game changer for guitar. To quote Frank Zappa, "Eddy Van Halen reinvented the guitar". Not to mention, David Lee Roth reinvented buttless chaps π -
John Prine & Tom Petty, Picture Show
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Stone Temple Pilots, Lady Picture Show
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Groundbreaking pieces of music (in your opinion)
T Boog replied to Mr No Name's topic in The Coffee House
Kid Rock, Cowboy -
Groundbreaking pieces of music (in your opinion)
T Boog replied to Mr No Name's topic in The Coffee House
Gary Numan, Cars -
Groundbreaking pieces of music (in your opinion)
T Boog replied to Mr No Name's topic in The Coffee House
Little Richard, Tutti Frutti -
Groundbreaking pieces of music (in your opinion)
T Boog replied to Mr No Name's topic in The Coffee House
Van Halen, Eruption -
Groundbreaking pieces of music (in your opinion)
T Boog replied to Mr No Name's topic in The Coffee House
Robert Johnson, Terraplane Blues