Larry T.

Yes, I was referring to the latest, paid version of Sonar.

Thank You for that clarity. I only try to max out the certain loudest parts that require to be positioned front and center, so to speak, not every track. Cheers 🎶🎵

Hi all. Here's Choir (alt instrumental). Observations welcome. link: https://larryterrano.bandcamp.com/track/choir A bit of history and info: This track was started on the free CbB version and finished using Sonar Platinum paid version. A few hiccups but nothing that could not be corrected. DAW: Sonar Platinum paid version pc: windows 11, Ultra 9 285 @ 2.50 GHz, 64GB Dual Channel DDR5 ram, DI Bass, DI electric guitars, Mic'ed acoustic guitars, SI drums, arturia minilab mkII, arturia analog lab 5 lite reference speakers: M-Audio BX3

Yes, "get a different output level on different passes of the track at the same point in the track". I'm no audio software engineer but what you said above sounds exactly like the problem I get with plug ins that do a lot of audio modulation. The track that I've been talking about is the Juno synth on Analog Lab V. This problem occurs on the Bell Pad synth as well which also uses a lot of audio modulation. I've resolved the problem by playing the area having the inconsistent output level issue numerous times and just keep lowering the Volume Automation node until the meter no longer peaks into the red, staying in the yellow and green. I really like to max the output level to .5dB of red to get the most volume and clarity but based on your trouble shooting it would seem that with certain plug ins that is simply not possible due to the fact that modulations occur differently every time. Thanks so much for your help and advice! 🎶🎵

Thank You David. I will see about uploading a video.

Thanks so much for the replies. The problem is inconsistent stability after making a Volume adjustment up or down in the volume adjustment line. I get different readings in the fader volume level, sometimes in the red, sometimes in the yellow, sometimes not red nor yellow after making a calculated audio level adjustment based on the fader level reading. Obviously, you guys don't have this problem. I had it previously in the last few years with the free CbB version. It's intermittent, impossible to predict, rendering the tool useless at that point in time. Usually I get frustrated and try later which sometimes works. It's not a deal breaker as I can always try other ways to make the correction.

Hi man. Yes, I understand what your saying. That is how I perceive and use the Volume Automation, as the volume fader of that track. It works as I expect it to most of the time. But, I will take another look at what you posted to see if my understanding of Volume Automation is faulty. Thanks. Edit: So, you don't have this problem, then?

I'm really enjoying Sonar Platinum. But, I'm not a fan of Volume Limiting tools so I use Sonar's Volume Automation and manually set the high volume cut off points. The issue I'm having is repeatability or consistency in the audio level after I've made a level change. Sometimes the audio adjustment aligns with the audio level reading, sometimes it's off by like 2.3dB's, so I adjust but then the next audio level doesn't correlate to the change I made. This happened the last few years with the CbB version so I thought it wouldn't happen with Sonar. Is this just a normal hiccup in all DAW's or something that can be fixed by the Sonar team? TIA.

Great production/mix. Intro works. Nice riffing with tasteful enhancements. It's heavy but melodic. I thought the ending sounded more than acceptable, it's an interestingly mixed outro 🎶 🎵

Great transitions that do not marr the flow of the piece. As Ross said above great use of various samples. Nothing sounds cluttered. Great writing. Even though you said you were rushed it doesn't sound like it 🎶 🎵

in detail here's what's happening: 1. I select Track 4 by left click of 4 creating an orange rectangle around it. OK. 2. go to Views at top left, select Piano Roll View. OK. 3. Left click Select Tool, orange rectangle around it. OK. 4. Using mouse I select 3 MIDI notes in PRV (C4, Bb3, G3) and they change to white indicating they are selected. OK. 5. Left click on Edit tab at top left of screen and select Cut....here's the problem: the 3 MIDI notes change back to purple (color I selected for Track 4). NOT OK. If I remember correctly the notes would normally disappear, I would then select the position to paste them using mouse, I would then select Paste from the Drop Down Edit tab and all would be fine. That is not happening. When I select paste nothing happens, when I select copy nothing happens when i hit Paste. 6. Help. 7. TIA. EDIT #1 (possible explanation): The Track 4 I referenced above is from a Project from the old Free CbB that I copied and pasted into Cakewalk Sonar Projects folder. The Track 4 was also Frozen so I had to unfreeze it to get the cut, copy, paste to work (or, in this case, not work). I think that's the problem because when I try to cut, copy and paste in a Project I started in the new Cakewalk Sonar the cut, copy and paste button work fine.

I had the same problem in my just installed Sonar but was able to fix by moving the buffer from Fast to about the middle of the horizontal slider. Good luck 🎵 🎶

cut, copy and paste don't work in piano roll view using the Edit tab commands. Never had a problem with them in CbB. Any solution(s)?

FIXED: I had the tracks frozen 🤣

Hi, help. In Track View VST icons will not open Arturia Analog Lab nor SI Drums. Running Windows 11, 64GB Dual Channel DDR5, Nvidia GeForce RTX 5060 8GB GDDR7, Sonar Premium. Edit 1: Only one VST icon works (the last one i recorded with), that is, when I put mouse arrow over it a square box appears and when left clicked open the Arturia Analog Lab controls for that track. The other 5 or so VST icons do not respond at all. Edit 2: I did an Nvidia GeForce driver update an hour ago. Then found VST icon issue. So, went to Device manager and rolled back to previous driver version 32.0.15.7602 Dated 4/12/2025. Problem remains. It's like this Sonar Project will only recognize one VST icon and not see the rest. Edit 3: This project was originally started in the free CbB version and then pasted into the Projects folder of Sonar. Edit 4: Created a new project in Sonar. I've recorded two Arturia Analog Lab tracks and problem does not occur. Sooooo, is there or will there be a fix for this or ?? 👍 TIA.

Finally getting a new PC. Windows 11, i9 processor, 64GB ram, Nvidia video card. I have been running the free CbB version the last three years. I bought the Premium Sonar last week and it's running small projects great on my old i7, 8GB ram pc. I can't find a FAQ with the recommended procedure to install the Premium Sonar on my new PC. I assume I have to sign out of Bandlab on my old pc. Then after letting Windows 11 update its files on new PC go to Bandlab, Log In, and then go to Cakewalk to download the Product Control Center to install my Sonar Premium?? When that's done install the Audio Interface, VST, etc files. Is that about right?? TIA.

Update: I went for the Sonar $79 license. Pleased to report my 8GB of RAM pc is running all that it was running OK 👍🏻 👌🏻 🙆‍♂️ 🙂 In fact, it loads quicker than before. Thanks so much!!!!

Greetings! Here's one in double dropped D tuning called Smokey's Lark. All observations welcomed 🎵 🎶 link: https://larryterrano.bandcamp.com/track/smokeys-lark DAW: Cakewalk by Bandlab pc: windows 10, i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40 GHz, 8GB ram, DI Bass, DI electric guitars, Mic'ed acoustic guitars and harmonica. SI drums, arturia minilab mkII, arturia analog lab 5 lite reference speakers: M-Audio BX3 EDIT: This is the last song using Cakewalk by Bandlab as I've updated to Sonar with a one year license about 4 hours ago. Still using 8GB of RAM and Sonar is working fine so far 🎶 🎵

Nice jam. Great work 🎶 🎵

Agree with all the good observations above. Maybe some tighter EQ'ing for clearer individual instrument sounds 🎶 🎵

Sounds pretty biblical! Great work, man 🎶 🎵

Great writing, playing, production. You'll get the hang of getting the instrument levels set better as you do more mixing. Keep it simple. If the keyboards volume is too low at certain parts, well, raise them up and lower the problem instrument(s) volume(s). There are no short cuts. It takes a lot of listening to get all the levels set as optimal as possible and that's done on a note by note or section by section, basis 🎶 🎵

So, you think my current PC with the I7-4770 CPU at 3.40GHz with only 8GB ram will run a full Sonar install ok?? Thanks again 👍

Thanks so much Noel. My plan is to download the Free Tier, get a new PC with 64GB ram and a Graphics card in a few months and then upgrade to Sonar. Appreciate all the free years!

Question: CWBB has worked great for me the last three years. I have an I7-4770 CPU at 3.40GHz with only 8GB ram. If I download and install the Free Tier can my PC run it? TIA.