John Vere

Great job mixed perfectly and huge in the headphones. Great job on the video as well puts it all together.

Dang haven’t hat a Batfix in way to long and as always 1000 miles above everything else I’ve listened to in months. Your whole mix is just so huge on headphones. All the details you put in are not missed by me. Stereo image heaven. I think it’s definitely finished. On my 3rd listen. Of note is the way you move the delay around. The ring in the snare is awesome and drum compression brilliantly done panning of fills and of course a wha wha

I’ve been trying to capture it on video but of course the minute I set that up it won’t do it. For a long time now I’ve had my workflow include the process of exporting chopped up audio tracks as 48/32 no dithering files and then I delete the chopped up track and drag the exported file in to replace the mess with a nice fresh continuous file. This has always worked flawlessly. I just installed the latest update. Within an hour of this I ran into this issue were as soon as I delete the old messy track and drag the new one in Cakewalk shuts down the audio engine and nothing will bring it back. You can do most things like change veiws etc but project won’t play. I tried using undo to go back to the original track but still no audio engine. Only thing that works is just close and reopen the project. I don’t have to close Cakewalk. Dragging and dropping to the original track will cause the audio engine to stop. But if I drag it to empty space it doesn’t. It has happened about 4 times now. But it seems random. I always do exactly the same procedure each time. Seems the best way to prevent it is run OBS screen capture at same time!

I had no problem with that web site. It’s for creating movie soundtracks. Just yet another sound library. Space farts I call them. See Keni. It’s already at 86 views. Bet you by tomorrow it’s in the hundreds!

We must have been typing same time, see you found it

For jumping though different tracks and soloing one at a time there the Solo Exclusive in the Mix Module. Then only thing comes to mind is creating bus for each group and soloing that.

@TracingArcs You are aware that it's still illegal to even give away the software. Not that is matters because Cakewalk is free but you just shouldn't have said it publicly. You can always PM other members. Also you can get in touch with Bandlab and they will help long time members get at their legacy Cakewalk products. They still had access to the old servers. I wouldn't drag my heals because that might change as they obviously are now using a different server.

The free version will still give you accurate readings but you have to play a whole song for that to happen. As I said it's well worth the paid version because that allows you to drag and drop the files and get a reading in seconds. This is a huge time saver for anyone dealing with multiple files. And it has a stand alone version so you can use it directly in the Windows environment. I have a shortcut on my desktop that I use daily. It even analyzes my Video creations. It's one of those irreplaceable tools I use a lot. And it is more precise in it's results than any other analyzing tools I have including Span and Melda. Sorry to send you shopping but, hey Black Friday is close so I think I bought it on sale a couple years ago on one of the specials. This is defiantly the time of year to have a wish list and pay attention. And Gold Wave is a program I also would have trouble replacing for what I use it for. I even use You Lean meter when I recording things like guitar parts. I'll have recorded a bunch of different takes using different Pick ups etc. and I'll drag and drop the tracks or clips into You Lean to compare LUFS and Peaks. It makes it easier to mix songs when you have tracks that are even in LUFS. Over time I've found my Bass tracks should be around -24 LUFS to be correct in the mix. It's cheating by numbers!

Interesting especially that it seems to me for music creation as well. Looks like the Company Fallout Music Group is very small and specializes in Movie soundtrack creation tools. It mentions Made for Kontakt Player. It would have been funnier if your thread title was Sonar on Sale Now for $15. That would have gone viral. there's a small possibility that Bandlab didn't register the Brand Sonar yet? After all it's Cakewalk not Sonar right now. The other possiblility is these guys are unaware that SOnar ever or will exsists and Bandlab is also unaware that they are using the name. What you say staff.? @Noel Borthwick @Jesse Jost @msmcleod

Here's the Cable I bought. this is Amazon Canada so search in your proper country.. They are often called Insert cables because historically they are used with patching hardware into the signal path of a mixing console. I bought the 9' one as all my old Insert cables were short. You can make them longer using a standard 1/4" TRS extension cable. https://www.amazon.ca/Gold-Plated-Audiowave-6-35mm-Adapter-Splitter/dp/B07JQLTZ6K/ref=sr_1_4_sspa?crid=1GWT49ALB5LJA&keywords=1%2F4%2Binch%2Btrs%2Bstereo%2By-splitter%2Binsert%2Bcable&qid=1699813123&sprefix=TRS%2BY%2Bcable%2Caps%2C126&sr=8-4-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1 Here is Yamahas up to date Midi driver https://usa.yamaha.com/search/index.html?search=midi+driver This is actually not made clear on Yamahas site because if you go to your Keyboards support page they say there is no driver. I got this tip on another music forum when trying to sort this out. I thought mine was so old that using it as a controller was no longer an option. Nope. Works 100%. So nice to have the piano like action but it's sort of too big for my space so I only drag it out when needed now. I haven't used the sounds yet because I'm too lazy to go to the bother when I have pretty good VST instruments on hand. I use True Pianos which I think was from Sonar 8.5 and no long available. Here's my instruction videos connecting a device. https://youtu.be/YJlI6U8Rqa0 Midi set up general info- https://youtu.be/8xYGKsLHAh0 using Instruments https://youtu.be/rVWeMsPZ-hc Using The PRV editor https://youtu.be/cyJUN2OdmBY Here's a site where you'll find dozens of free pianos. Some are actually good but best if piano is your main sound to spend some money and get a real good one. But most of these are as good as the sounds in the Yamaha. The one called Grand Piano 1 is exceptional better as it uses proper samples. https://plugins4free.com/search?term=piano

I have a DGX 620 which is pretty much identical. You are using the wrong cable. The only output is a stereo Headphone jack. Therefore a TRS 1/4” plugged into the keyboard the other end of that cable should be a Y split to two 1/4” TS standard jacks. Not XLR. That is why it’s humming. Then you also have the wrong Audio interface for that set up if what you’re trying to do is sing and play piano at the same time. You only have 2 inputs and you would need 3 for the piano to sound right. My Yamaha definitely puts low notes on the left and higher notes right. The best option is to use the keyboard as a midi controller to record it when singing or at any time. Install the Yamaha universal midi driver which is updated for Windows 10 and 11. The driver on the CD is way out of date so don’t use it. The following my instructions in my videos get it to record and use any piano VST. Addictive Keys demo might work unless you need those lowest and higher octaves. But lots of choices for pianos in VST land. Then you can learn to edit as well. If you want to use the sound from the piano then purchase the correct Y cable on Amazon and use both inputs of your interfaces to record a stereo audio track buy playing the project and selecting the Yamaha as the output from the midi or instrument track. This is the preferred method because it’s easy to fix minor mistakes in the piano performance. You can focus on singing. And once captured as midi you could also re sing with out playing at the same time. Im pretty confident that the correct cable will be the solution. I have no issues with mine this way and I have even connected to a PA system a few times.

But you can export as wave files, master them and then for free batch convert to MP3 using Gold Wave. It does 40 songs in less than a minute. And I think the quality is way better. And it has lots of options regarding the MP3 unlike Cakewalk which you have to jump through way too many hoops and it very limited. It will even take your stereo wave and make it a mono MP3 all in one simple operation. Its free but with Nag to purchase. And best of all its made in Canada! https://www.goldwave.ca/ I paid $40 for it 15 years ago and unlike Cakewalk my license bough me lifetime updates that they still honor.

Apple doesn’t suck at all. I made over $2,000 so far as an early purchase stock holder. Too bad I can’t afford them now. I love Apple! It will help me pay for my new PC! And I hate to say it but I also love my iPhone. It’s 10 year old and still works. My wife has been through 3 Android phones in the same time span. When it dies I don’t think I can afford to upgrade. But maybe my Apple stocks will pay for it. Apple is still a plug and play with a lot of audio interfaces and software. The price is a total rip off but obviously that doesn’t stop sales.

If used properly the voice processing pedals can really make a weak singer sound much better. And for many it gives you more confidence. And I use mine sometimes in our duo for when I’m singing harmonies. The lead singer gets this 3 part harmony instead of 1. This is where having that one in ear monitor really shines. You can nail a perfect in pitch vocal line by focusing on yours in the in ear and tuning out the others. My partner is hard of hearing so sings out of key a lot. So I don’t dare listen to him for notes. I’m in my own little world of perfect tuning.

Yes the Voice live will really sound brutal if fed bad data. I had to suffer through an hour this at a gig I was doing sound for. This idiot had just bought the pedal and actually fired the female vocalists they had used in the past. He left it going thought the whole gig. I went up and informed him of his error after the second song but he carried on. And he had the harmonies maxed out so it was this digital nightmare sound . You need to spend quality time with them and less is best. I find that if I’m 3” away from the mike this almost makes the harmonies disappear. They definitely jump out more when you get closer. So I have some control over that. But I only turn them on when needed in the song and only a for few songs that work really well. I don’t think it draws attention this way. Mostly I want it for all the other features.

If I lost DimPro I’d loose my acoustic bass player. Which only reminds me that I should freeze all those tracks. In the video I made for an original song I needed some footage so I did an air band of me playing various instruments in the studio. One was this big ol Dean fret less acoustic bass I use live. I got a comment from someone who thought the bass track sounded amazing and wanted to know the model and what processing I had used. I reluctantly admitted it was DimPro which of course very few have access too.

What is the model of the Yamaha keyboard? When you say you have the input turned way down this implies an impedance miss match. The direct monitoring is only making it obvious what the signal sounds like. So it’s a simple matter of sorting out the best configuration to connect the Yamaha. Example is it a model that send Audio via USB.

Got it. The alternative is I use the “ click track” in the stops either with just a loud hi hat or even a kick drum. And for Harmonies you can’t beat a TC Voice live pedal. My first song of the night is often All my Loving and the voice live works great for that type of song. Here’s the sales pitch. I play a lot of acoustic guitar gigs and so I bought the Voice live Acoustic . Your vocal mike and guitar go directly to the unit. It has 2 XLR outs so it acts as a DI for my guitar. Then it has the best guitar tuner I’ve ever used. It has hi quality processing for both guitars and vocals. The guitar effects are static and once set stay the same. But for vocals you can not only set up the type of harmonies but create the perfect effect chain with reverb delay and ? Another feature is it can do real time pitch correction of your vocals. I find if I add about 35% blend it sounds like I’m a pro. This is the best thing for me as I get older and my stamina is not what it was for singing for 2 hours. When I play dances I play electric into an amp. But the harmonies need a feed from a guitar to work properly. So feed it from an auxiliary send on the mixer. The hardest part is it’s at my feet and you need to look down to toggle the harmonies on and off . It’s way to easy to step on the wrong switch. Then not only is it covering both my guitar and vocal it has a Aux in you can feed the backing track into and mix that in the headphone output that I use for my in ear monitors. I only wear one. You could actually use it as a stand alone mixer at a solo gig with the different options of what comes out of the Outputs and the headphone jacks. It is one more thing to hook up so I don’t usually take it to walk on gigs and my last dance I left it at home because I was excited about using the Zoom L8 and it’s built in effects. I missed having the harmonies but the dance floor stayed busy anyway.

This can happen and definitely seems to be a driver issue in my case. It’s one reason I just changed interfaces. I got fed up with my Motu M4 randomly crapping out like that. It normally would only go away with a complete restart of computer. I’ve been using a Zoom L8 for 3 weeks now and the issue went away. But yesterday I switched back to the Motu because I was using the L8 elsewhere and sure enough after 2 hours it recorded totally distorted audio and waisted a perfect take. Today I’m looking for the box and post the Motu M4 for sale. I still have 2 other interfaces that are more dependable. And one is a 1st gen Focusrite 6i6. I always though Focusrite had good drivers. Mine was and still is rock solid. I don’t use it because it doesn’t have loopback.

I keep forgetting about my avatar. I put it there one day when someone basically told me to stop posting ( shut up) because they felt I was talking down to them.

Another nail in the coffin for musician with actual talent. The world is slowly being flooded with “creations” of AI generated beats. Pretty hard for real talent to be noticed. Because there’s no more money in record deals the business people have figured out a new way to get rich on the backs of aspiring creators. Our good buddy Meng seems to be right in there. I somehow sense insincere intentions in this hype about making everyone a recording artist. Those monthly and annual fees add up. How many users did we finally figure out had activation with Cakewalk? I just hope they don’t mess with Sonar too much. im too old to switch DAWs.

You can tell when we are bored.

Where as I agree that having stems is an option it makes for a way more complicated set up. And most people like me who play solo with tracks are also our own song tech. Last thing I need is to be fussing with a mixer. I play the odd show at community events where we get 45 minutes and no sound check. The more complicated your set up the fewer songs you get to play. @TVR PRODUCTIONS What type of music do you play? you sound like all you would really need is drum tracks and possibly some keyboards. So stereo or split stereo might be all you need. My method gives me options of mixing a stereo. Mono or a split stereo Exported wave files. I also play with 1 or 2 more musicians sometimes and we like to downplay the backing tracks. The music is more bluegrass, Folk and Blues oriented. Acoustic guitars, Mandolin and Banjo. So we only really need bass. So I made a split stereo mix with Bass on left and Drums and keyboards in the right. I play Bass on a few songs. Solution. I have a Radial DI box that is made for laptops and iPads. It is a must have and a key feature is it has a Mono toggle for shows with a sound guy. But we mostly do our own sound. We send the Bass to one channel of the mixer and Auxiliary it to a Bass amp. The drums and keyboards go to the PA but we keep that down. It will mostly go to our in ears or floor monitors. Why use a click track?? I’d hate that. The drums are there to keep us in sync but the bass is the driving force and keeps us kicking along. When I play bass I simply mute the Track Bass channel and unmute my bass which is in another channel. My solo act is different depending on event. I do shows with a mix of my originals and covers that fit in. As well as I do parties and dances playing cover tunes. Those I use full stereo mixes and I personally don’t find it that hard to set up that mix in the studio. I’ve never felt the need to mix it live. How many hometown weekend warriors have you heard with a perfect mix? The punters don’t care. They just want to recognize the songs. I always test everything in the studio with the full PA set up exactly like it will be at the gig. I just lower the volume accordingly. And yes, the last thing you want to sound like as a musician is Karaoke. Kill those harmonies. That sounds scary ? The using a multi track recording device is another option and the Zoom L8 is both a mixer and a 8 track recorder. As an experiment I loaded a whole set of stereo tracks to test it out. Compared to using a laptop it’s pretty clunky. I’m used to advancing songs with a USB foot switch. And you have to record everything into it in real time. That’s the deal breaker. I recorded them as I was practicing so time well spent but! And making multi track recordings?!!? But I have them there as emergency back up if laptop died. Possibly there’s multi track recorders that are capable of playing files from a DAW. Otherwise this is totally a step backwards in technology for me.

@User 905133proof that world is flat. As you flew did your drink spill? No because the pilot maintained a level altitude. See flat?

The simplest way to do this is drag and drop your Cakewalk Projects folder to a second drive be it internal or external. This creates a copy that you can now work from. A few other things I would also do. Copy this to a 3 and even a 4th location before you delete the originals on C drive. And open the new copies first to test them as well. I like to have a minimum of 3 copies for back up. Back up storage is dirt cheap. Now in preferences /folder locations change the default project folder location to the new drive so new projects will be stored there. Your start screen will still show the original locations so don’t use that until you have repopulated it with the new location versions. So open the project by either browsing there or by double clicking on them in the new location. If your not short of space on C drive I would leave the original copies there but rename the folder as “Backup CWP Nov2023”.