John Vere

Thanks for listening.

I like the song but I totally agree the out of tune vocals are distracting. 15 years ago I would have said nothing, but now we have software like Melodyne it's not much effort to at least pull them in a bit closer to pitch. I totally avoided this up until about 2 years ago and I finally caved in and purchased the basic version for $100. I watched the videos on the Celemony website and finally figured out how it worked. Well, much better than before, and I think the more I use it the results have been slowly improving and I've become very comfortable now. I'm just working on a basic tutorial on my Workflow for Lead and Harmony. I also might use it on a lead guitar track If I hit a blooper. My version doesn't do chords. The tool that straightens out the wiggly lines is dangerous. If you over do it you sound like a robot. A lot of modern music seems to rely on this effect. So for my lead vocal I use it sparingly, but for harmonies I use it to the max. I can also move notes around both timing and pitch to get great results. You can get away with heavy editing of harmonies but on lead vocals it will trash things pretty quickly. I even had one song where I duplicated the lead vocal and transposed some of it into a 3rd part of a harmony. Anyways, keep up the great work recording music is fun. And half the fun is trying new stuff and experimenting with the toys!

You sound like you would benefit from watching tutorials on recording audio. Duplicating a track is one way but not a common choice for Comping guitar or vocal parts. Most folks will use take lanes or insert a new track. There's also auto punch in, punch on the fly. Learn the software first the information is all here on this forum. The PDF documentation - https://bandlab.github.io/cakewalk/docs/Cakewalk Reference Guide.pdf The tutorial sub forum- https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/forum/35-tutorials/ My step by step guides.

Good choice. Focusrite has one of the best drivers and dependable track record with Cakewalk. And they include more than $300 worth of goodies too. Make sure grab them as well as sign up for newsletters which also include giveaways from time to time.

Funny at no point did anyone mention that the Start Screen can be opened from the File menu at any time. Even with a project open. If the OP had tried that it would have quickly narrowed down what the issue was.

Kinda cool sound, very listenable, Only thing bugged me was the snare roll which became an obvious drum machine loop.

I just did a quick remix https://soundclick.com/r/s8kz1t As suggested by @KurtS I turned up the bass 1db using Boost 11- Don't laugh, It's a good tool if used correctly. As suggested by @Bapu I lowered the reverb send on the snare by 1/3. I added a Low C note on Bass in the into and the bridge to match what I did on a 5 string bass in 1994. I also swapped out the BT stereo imager for the much better Alex Hilton A1 Stereo Control on the Analog synth track. Thanks to @scook for sharing the link to another great freebie. https://a1audio.alexhilton.net/a1stereocontrol This one has a SAFE BASS button which works brilliantly to solve low end phasing issues when using a stereo widener. I had also tried Ozone Imager but it's a CPU hog.

All the keyboard shortcuts are one click away in the help menu. But I guess that's just me who would think to open the help menu when I have a question about software I'm using. No offence intended I only stating this here so that others who read this post will learn to look there first. Everything you need to know about Cakewalk- This is found right above here in the Cake walk by Bandlab Tab. https://bandlab.github.io/cakewalk/docs/Cakewalk Reference Guide.pdf Then there are a lot of great tutorials for those who don't know how too read. https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/forum/35-tutorials/ And generally if you Google your question you will have an answer immediately.

CONTENT COUNT 1 JOINED December 28, 2018 LAST VISITED July 5, 2021 Go ahead and ask him. He Won't hear you. It is always best to start your own thread instead of piggy backing in a Zombie thread.

I'll back up what @scook is saying. ASIO is very limited as far as using multiple devices goes. All sorts of unwanted weirdness can happen if you try and change devices all the time. The majority of us who use MIDI hardware sometimes will have it connected with midi cables either USB or Din, but the audio will be handled by an Audio Interface. I use a small mixer to route 3 hardware synths into inputs 3/4 of my interface. So 4 inputs works fine for me. I have a video about how to choose the correct interface. And I make a point of get what you need for connectivity now and in the future. It's relatively cheaper to get it right the first time.

I have a few wideners but be careful. If you use one pay attention to your correlation meters Span has a simple one built in and voxengo make the multi band Correlometer which is what I use. It will quickly tell you if you have overdone low end stereo widening. It's fine to spread out upper frequencies but low end spread =Mud. It's why you don't want reverb on bass frequencies. Read up on Correlation it’s something worth understanding for mastering material that might just be a little too much stereo. . Thanks @scook for that link. This is an amazing tool that is different than others I have due to that one magic button, the Safe Bass. It works. I added widening to a mastered stereo track that the Correlometer showed my low end dropping below the threshold. Push that button and it was back in the top. Good tool. I think this is exactly what the OP was asking for. Hear examples. First no processing Note the Correlometers reading show mostly Mid signal. A simple explanation is readings at top are Good , Middle is OK stereo, Below middle is out of phase Bad. A video of the meters would have showed you more but I'm being Lazy. Next is full stereo widening, Notice meter shows a drop in most frequencies including low end. There's even some out of Phase midrange. Here's with the safe Bass engaged and it seem to fix the issue. The stereo widening was still very audible. I think I'm going to send this dude some money. It's free but sort of a guilt trip when shown the download options.

@BapuNoted and agree. I had just changed the snare in AD and it has more bite than the first one I used so it’s driving the reverb harder. I normally don’t use much but I was going for drama this round. @noynekker Thanks. That transition is a great example of taking multi tracks of both audio and midi and syncing them up. I sort of had that punch on the drums and followed with the guitar. Then I zeroed in on the midi stuff matching the drum hits. I tend to spend a lot of time in PVR syncing parts. This song was tricky because it is 6/8 feel. That means Quantize can be either 1/8, 1/8-triplets and 1/16 - triplets. I had to keep switching grids an snaps

100% first class. We are just at a weekend long music/ art festival in Penticton BC. Listening to your song in the Slumber Lodge after a great day yesterday of musical talent and you would have fit right in big time. They have none stop acts, mostly singer songwriters and folky bands spread among 6 venues, coffee shops and Brew pubs. Of note is all the musicians commented about this being first gig in 2 years and how great it was to be back on the touring circuit

Thanks @KurtS Funny you mentioned the bass track. Because when I listened to the original I realized I must have played it on a 5 string bass. Right in the intro there’s a low C. Bummer is Ample P bass free version is only the 4 string range. I’ll add SI bass just to play that one note. And thanks to all who did listen to the sample of the original version. And yes it was about as good as what I was capable of back then working with very crude gear. Those were the days when there was definitely a huge difference between home studio and real studio gear. The problem is all those old songs sound so radically different from my new stuff and therefore I can’t mix them together in album or playlist format. The goal is to try and make all my songs fit together sonically and quality wise. I’m overall satisfied with the music but I think I’ll look into a better vocal signal path including mike and pre amp. I’m going to try and sell off all my live gear and use the money for studio toys.

Ctrl W toggles spar bar behaviour. It will toggle between space bar stopping where you are at and returning to where you started.

It is probably because you have automation. Open the automation lane and then you can edit the track.

Watch these # 3, 5,6 and 7 and you'll be a Cakewalk Navigation expert. The X is only seen when that tab is open.

I think it depends on lyrics more than the music. Probably a different arrangement of a cover song won't get noticed. A few that come to mind is was busted for All My Lovin ( Beatles) and Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer ( Elmo and Patsy) . Which were both me playing live. Then I posted a version of Blue Rodeo's Tossin and Turning I had recorded when I was in a band. The videos are still posted but if I ever do get monetized those publishes get the ad revenue, not me. Fine. I'll probably never get monetized anyway. As of today I'm at 18,000 views and almost 300 Subscribers. I think it's 100,000 views and 1,000 subscribers. The info is not clear. But Cakewalk is not as popular as " Sleeping Cat" 100K views. Some of my Tutorials have Midi tracks of cover songs being used but very briefly and those have not been busted. I helped a friend make a slide show video for their Moms Memorial and she gave me about 30 songs to use. You Tube sent me a busted list of all 30 songs including 3 that were real obscure Italian folk songs. Some of them did not grant permission ( probably dead) and we couldn't post the video on You Tube. I just shared it in aa Cloud server. You see lots of live band videos playing cover songs too. Your situation sucks because this could happen to anyone who creates original music. Everything we compose has probably been already used before. There are only so many combinations of chords. We can't help it if we borrow from somewhere. I hope a human takes the time to review your song. Not a robot. I think the thing that started all this was the birth of Non Musicians producing content using loops lifted from cover songs.

I have put a few cover tunes on You Tube and I always give the original artist credit in the video splash screen. I get a note saying the Publisher has agreed to let me post the video but that they will get any monetizing.

@DeeringAmps Yep Had to save track 8 for midi time code to drive my Atari. But It was rare I used midi in those days on recordings because of that hassle. It was cool when I got the MD8 which could transmit MMC. I think I would record 5 tracks of drum kit peices and then a guitar in Trk 6 for the arrangement. I'd bounce that to Tracks 7/8 in stereo and then re use the first 6 tracks again. I think I was mixing down to a HI Fi Stereo VCR. Just clicked on your My Reel link hand had a gas listening to your stuff. Lots of fun. I liked reading your Liner Notes. You've inspired me to do the same as most of my songs have a long history as well. Many have been played hundereds of times live using backing tracks or with a real band.

Unwanted 2022 updated April 4th version #5 https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=14415473 Edit: April 4th: I added a low C bass note as well as turning up bass and lowering Reverb on snare as per suggestions here. Another old song I originally recorded in around 1994 using a real drummer and a Tascam Cassette 8 track shown below. I've made at least 4 other attempts to re do this song and I even have a Bed track that I used for performance that has the vocals removed. I used that bed track to rebuild using the method I demonstrated in this video - https://youtu.be/HuPc1RjBRbc I've included a link to the original version if your curious to how wonderful Analog Cassette recording really was. I can't beleieve those things actually fetch more than they did back then https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l5gBXT153knsz2iFwJy9ecJt0Oj2YFZ1/view?usp=sharing I first dragged the bed track to the time line to create a tempo map. I played real bass and converted to midi via Ample P Bass. I them played 2 piano parts, True PIanos and Lounge Lizard and an analog synth pad using Ultra Analog . I also found a flute sort of sound in Artura Analog Lab that works perfectly for the lead line. I then deleted the Bed track, set the tempo at a little more than the original and recorded 2 identical guitar parts panned and then a lead part. Then lead and Harmony vocal tracks. This was the heart of the original Cactus Music Studios 1992 until I got the Yamaha MD8. I sold it for $100 to a guy who says he still has it and it still works. . UNWANTED OLD Short.mp3

Hey, can we just let this thread die. Or can a Moderator lock it. The OP is long gone. To me it's a bit frustrating that these threads get way more attention than people asking for help.

It would be helpfull to know what brand the Drums were. Not all use standard GM sounds. And some like the better Roland kits definatly need a drum map to pair up with any VST's. You either use a drum map inside Cakewalk or re assign the triggers in the drum brain. In my Yamaha's set up I can easily re assign triggers. I actually changed my Hi Hat pedal to a COWBELL! The pedal is a bit of a POS so I can't use it anyways, it sends false triggers. I just manually add open Hi Hats in PVR.

It’s all depending on your interface drivers. I have a few different interfaces and each one will behave differently regarding audio sharing between apps. I never have issues other than a sample rate Pop with Focusrite and Tascam ASIO drivers. Nothing crashes or goes weird. But my Motu M4 has trouble and the worst of it is distorted audio for new recordings. I have to completely re boot to carry on. If it didn’t have the loop back feature I needed for screen capture, it would be tossed by now. I get best audio sharing results buy keeping that exclusive mode button unchecked in Windows sound settings. I just wanted confirmation that it still exists. My Audio set up video has over 1.3K views and it’s based on W10. If W11 totally changed the settings I would need to place a warning in the description.