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I’m always curious about 1 post wonders. They did return on the 19th by which time there was a bunch of good replies. So in this case it’s one of the most common where they ask a question, get an answer, but do not respond. My favourite is when the thread goes on for 2 pages, Nobody seems to notice the OP never responded, and someone digs it up 2 years later and asked the 1 post wonder OP if they ever solved the issue.
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In my world if the song is say a blues or country shuffle I then will be using the triplets. I often have to use both 1/16 and the 1/16 triplets depending on the part. An example would be a drum part is generally right on the 1/8th but Tom fills are triplets It is actually very precise where notes go on the grid and myself I hear something is wrong if they are not. Not a fan of thinking a song will sound more human if you place notes in the wrong spots. If your song sounds like a machine that’s because it is! You want human, then use one.
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The OP is using ASIO. The Yamaha /Steinberg ASIO driver is a good driver. The set up is that you can not only record the Midi from the piano but the audio as well. So an Audio loopback is happening from Cakewalks Master output through the piano and back to the Audio track. I'll assume the OP is using the Piano for monitoring playback and the metronome. Yamaha pianos have Aux inputs that feed the output, I'll also assume the USB audio return can also be patched this way internally. Then the audio gets re sent back to the audio track and therefore mixed in with the pianos audio recording. So that video will explain the workings of the metronome but I now see the correct help would be the OP needs to go into the piano's settings and disable the USB audio input being sent through to the output. This would be essential not only for the metronome but any further overdubbing.
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I'll admit in my 25 years of using what I do believe is the same dialogue box I have never touched anything but the note selection. I've never even looked at those other settings so they are the defaults as shown in @sjoens first screenshot. I always play the parts and then I'll change the grid resolution so it matches the closest to what I played and use that as the Quantize setting. Oh and for those who don't know the Shortcut is Q to open the Quantize dialogue you have to select first.
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Someone mentioned notation as a long-standing means of how musicians can communicate. True. My observation is the trend in DAW development is not focusing on musicians but the opposite. The Bandlab App is a good example. Anything that uses loops is made so none musicians can have fun creating music. And even among real musicians the ability to read notation has almost disappeared completely. Music Theory I believe is more important than sight reading and even that gets ignored by many very accomplished musicians. My disappointment with the trend towards looping and button pushing is young kids are now aspiring to do that and not taking up an instrument. And no wonder. Send a kid to piano lessons and the first thing that is taught is notation! Think on that for a minute in the mind of modern day kid.
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Are you trying to use 2 ASIO devices? If you are using the Line 6 ASIO driver then for sure it should be the device shown in the sync and caching. It should be the only device showing everywhere including windows. But If your using the Zoom Mixers ASIO driver then that needs to be the only ASIO driver. If the Line 6 driver is interfering with your Zoom driver then you will need to remove it or use it.
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AudioSnap Palette sounds great until "bounce to clip"
John Vere replied to nkeelaghan's question in Q&A
I now use Melodyne for moving notes. As long as it's a single note as I don't have the full version. I have also done lots of note moving around using what @sjoens described. Zoom in, split out the note and move it. I will sometimes use the fade in and out to smooth out the transition. Audio snap quantizing has always been a total flop for me. -
There are plenty of lower cost audio interfaces that come with midi ports. The cost is minimal when purchased that way.
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And people scoff at my 30 year old Yamaha's! To those who didn't hear the clicking you might want to question your monitors ability to hear details ?
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Yes its a two part question. 1. How long does it take to learn enough about Cakewalk to record and produce a project? Answer- If you try and figure it out on your own - forever. If you take the time to watch the tutorials and study the documentation then possibly a few day of spare time. 2. How long does it take to completely understand Cakewalk? Once again the process will be sped up 10 fold by watching tutorials and reading the documentation. It’s odd how many choose to just jump in with out taking advantage of the free training. I’ll include myself in that camp so I speak from experience. I’ve been using it since 2002. I think 4 years went by and I couldn’t get it to work so I continued to use my Atari. I joined the forum and started to slowly figure a few things out. First step was learning you needed an Audio Interface. Slowly I learned how to get the basic stuff working and Understanding about 20% of the features.My workflow sucked. 12 years later my workflow still sucked. I self explored the program and picked up tidbits from the forum.This in retrospect was the most painfully slow way to get there. 18 year goes by and I only understood 50% of Cakewalk. Even so, I had over 300 completed projects that were more than satisfactory. The quantum leap was just a few years ago. It started with a need to teach 3 musician friends of mine how to use Cakewalk so they could work at their house instead of coming to the studio. I started looking for videos but a lot seemed really outdated or they had to much self promotion and wasted time babbling. The topics were scattered and hard to find the simple basic stuff. So I thought I’d make my own. At first I just demonstrated using my 60% knowledge but then decided I could do better. So topic by topic I tried to research the details and slowly managing to create the series. They are far from perfect because 1 month after I make one, I find another detail or a better way to do something. I’m still only at 80%.
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I have figured the free ride will end someday. Otherwise why do they have the 6 month activation policy. It's pretty clear to me. Make it free. , Pay the old crew to work the bugs out and make it as awesome as possible. Get 4 Million people using it because it's free. Then? Will most of us leave if they ask for money? I doubt it. It makes for good business if you ask me. Sell it for $50 x 2,000,000 = 100,000,000 not bad
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Had to read this twice. Seems to me anyone with a SSL as input option would want to use it. Zoom is just consumer grade gear. I would imagine the SSL has far superior pre amps etc.
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The OP won’t read this. if you open their profile you will see they only posted twice and have not logged in here since. So you should start your own thread.
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Restarting the computer probably.
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Cool free program: WavePad Sound Editor
John Vere replied to Clint Swank's topic in Instruments & Effects
I just finally got it to work using the Re call task settings. So it was sort of working just that one detail I missed. I might just have to read the documentation again! But I'm almost there now. -
Cool free program: WavePad Sound Editor
John Vere replied to Clint Swank's topic in Instruments & Effects
Thanks for that I used the dialogue to delete tasks but I just played with it a little more and now see how I can easily customize each task with the update to currant setting option. The other item I totally didn't know about until I made the tutorial is the view you pull out with the arrow that shows which tracks are soloed or muted. In an effort to keep the video under 20 minutes I removed that but I think I'll add that and this information as well. Still can't get the time selection to stick. -
Good to know they are offering to look into it. That seems like top notch support to me. They have the best tutorials I've ever watched as well. There's a lot to learn. Next sale I'm upgrading to Studio so I can do chords.
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Did you contact support here.
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Cool free program: WavePad Sound Editor
John Vere replied to Clint Swank's topic in Instruments & Effects
Don't no why but for me every time I re open the export dialog then choose a task, the Time setting is back to 1:01:000 etc. Possible that if I run the task it changes? haven't tried that. The other item not recalled by tasks is the MP3 meta data always has to be re set. -
Cool free program: WavePad Sound Editor
John Vere replied to Clint Swank's topic in Instruments & Effects
It's supposed to, Mark mentioned this a while back, But it doesn't work for me. Tried it a few times. And the other problem I found is setting up a Task takes up more time than just making changes to the dialogue. Tasks is a good idea if you want to export in a bunch of different formats all at the same time but after playing with it for a while, I found just using pre sets I had custom made, was faster. -
Cool free program: WavePad Sound Editor
John Vere replied to Clint Swank's topic in Instruments & Effects
I just released a tutorial on doing exactly all this. # 28 on the list, There are dozens of great free Wave editors and all of them will do top and tails as well as many other chores. Of course the best of the free ones is still Audacity. But You can get older versions of Sound Forge free as well as not really free, but with a nag to buy, Gold Wave which I bought a lifetime license cheap years ago. It's best feature for me is Batch conversion of any audio format to any audio format. But I use that to top and tail MP3 files. I have Wave Lab which is $100 but it never included MP3 encoding. I use that for top and tailing Wave files. But now Cakewalk has the Range selection feature of export I use that. Only gripe is it is not remembered and you have to re set each export. Direct link to You Tube for now, might become dead if I update video--- Using Cakewalks Export -- https://youtu.be/ETBGFp_YRrE -
You can't deselect the Magix driver it's one of the pesky garbage drivers I mention in the video. Follow the instructions to remove it using the REG EDIT app as shown in the video. It's important to now have those type of drivers contaminating your audio system. But that said I don't think that would cause the volume issue. That is more to do with the way ASIO works. It bypasses Windows settings more or less. The best place to set the output volume is either you Master bus or the hardware bus faders found often hidden to the right of the bus pane in console view. This sounds more like a playback monitoring stet up issue. For the REG EDIT my Video below I think has better details. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2pnDOC7HEk&t=462s
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OK it wasn't clear to me as you mentioned you were using Sonar. And then you also mentioned the RME? I had to read the info a few times and now I see that my comprehension was bad OK,, we have a Midas via a Klark Teknik DN32-LIVE card. We have a new install of Cakewalk by Bandlab. Up to date ASIO driver? Is the driver supplied with the Midas or the KT Card? and is it the latest available that supports the OS used? Have you run Latency Monitor? https://www.resplendence.com/latencymon We will assume the Laptop is capable but you never know what else gets installed after the fact. Always good to check. I have a brand new Motu M4 that results in what you describe as Garbled recordings if I have left Cakewalk running and open the internet or Movie Studio. My Scarlett does not do this, so it's defiantly a driver issue with the Motu and this might be your issue as well. The playback of already recorded material is fine, but any new recordings are garbled. It goes away if I totally reboot computer.
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Are you using the latest version of Cakewalk? That it 100 % supported . Your issue sounds like it might be your audio interface. Gear does time out but I’d also be contacting RME and see what they say.
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