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You said it was Track 1. I asked if this was a Midi track because there could be a pan event CC10 which will show on event list for the track
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Where are all the free midi drum loops?
John Vere replied to james rector's topic in Cakewalk by BandLab
SI Drums has drag and drop loops in its left side of GUI. I grab those all the time if I need a Simple pattern. -
Most important missing information is are these Midi or Audio tracks. If it audio it is truly a mystery. If it’s Midi then check the event list.
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Using Surround in Cakewalk by Bandlab
John Vere replied to Michael Shor's topic in Cakewalk by BandLab
Depends on how many outputs your audio interface has. If it only has 2 then that’s all that can be used. -
They come with software you use to program them with. The quality of the software varies with quality of brand. The cheapest ones the software came on a mini CD! It barely loaded into W7. The stealth has solid up to date software as well as my x key system. The Xkey uses a Record function. You set it in record and make your moves with mouse and keyboard and it saves this and when you press that pedal it repeats exactly what you just did. The are designed to be used by factories and machines connected to computers
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Cakewalk deleting audio files on startup
John Vere replied to Mark S Ellis's topic in Cakewalk by BandLab
To create a per project folder for your audio simply use “Save As “ and check the “copy all audio with project “ box. Then browse to a different location and save. All the audio used in the project will always be in the folder from now on. Global folders should be avoided. -
Using Surround in Cakewalk by Bandlab
John Vere replied to Michael Shor's topic in Cakewalk by BandLab
I wonder when the developers will take note of how many post we get like this and change the default workspace to either none or advanced? And think of the possible hundreds of new users who don’t understand this and try Cakewalk and abandon it because it’s missing features they wanted? All because they don’t want new users to be overwhelmed by too many buttons? -
Exactly why I did reply. Sadly it is not what the OP wanted to hear but threads like this might reach others who still have time to save their butts.
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I used to replace my drives every 2 or 3 years starting back in 2002. Not only for safety but drives were getting bigger and better very quickly back then. I still have some of those and they still spin up. I have a pile of around 15 drives that all still work. I think if you retire them early they seem to remain stable for ever. I only just now retired a 120 GB SSD. It was in my wife’s laptop. Just swap it out and keep it just in case. I’m overdue to upgrade my main DAWs 5 year old OS drive ( 250 SSD) but none of my data is stored on it . My Data drive with all my projects on it (500GB SSD) is new. The second data drive(1 TB standard) used for back ups is probably 5 years old but it doesn’t spin up unless I’m copying something to or from it so I’m not worried about it. Then I have a couple of external drives that I dump my entire data drive to from time to time. Not only that but I have a second office computer that is more or less a clone of my main DAW complete with backups and all my software and licences etc. I just spent 10 hour on a project I’m being paid to finish for a client. I can not afford to loose it. And it was a song we recorded in 2005 which guess what- I had the audio file from the master. In my data drive.
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I saw this a few hours ago and really didn’t have any answers to your problem other than the usual wagging a finger at you and asking why you don’t have back ups. We all learn the hard way when it comes to digital storage but it has been a few decades now and most of us don’t trust a hard drive any more than we trust the government to do its job. A few thoughts to ponder. Larger spinning hard drives are more likely to die. Thumb drives , SSD drives and DVDs have no moving parts, Think about that. The cloud is mostly free or cheap and possibly won’t die on you. Cakewalks CWP file when opened looks for your audio files in the location it last was saved. As long as that pathway has not become corrupted they should open. If not you are always faced with a nightmare of re assembly. Most of the work we put into our compositions might be Midi. You can save any projects as midi files which are then 100% bullet proof and can be opened in any DAW. Audio tracks are usually named but could have been scattered across the timeline in a zillion locations therefore I always recommend backing up those as Stems that are full tracks. Not small clips. it goes on and on but I personally have never lost a project because of the steps I have taken for a long time now to back myself up in as many ways as possible. I’m just working on a project for a client today and after only one day of work it is now in 4 locations. The working copy on my 250 GB data drive The local backup to a third SSD drive A portable drive A midi file on One Drive I do this before shutting down at end of day, a good habit to have. I have Cakewalk files and midi files on probably 10 storage drives and all still open. I never leave a hard drive in a computer for more than 5 years but now I’m not sure about these SSD drives? So far so good
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Most people use the keyboard to input midi data and then use a VST instrument to play it back in Cakewalk. This is less complicated than using hardware as a sound source. If you use the keyboard as a sound source then you have to re record the audio output to an audio track. This is only desirable when the keyboard has sounds that are not available as VST instruments. This is pretty rare, Piano and the other sounds that they generate is well covered by VST’s so no need to use your hardware. Tutorials #2 , 12-13-14 cover this.
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Yep. Mostly it’s just for Macs which apparently work just fine with those drivers. But they just don’t report latency to Cakewalk so Cakewalk has to guess what the latency is and it’s most often late buy a least a 1/32 note or worse
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I guess Mackie is going Green ? I like paper manuals still but I get the point of on line stuff too. But see what happens is then a well meaning user doesn’t always realize this so is kinda forced to fumble around in the dark. Anyhow your one page of settings looks normal and ASIO drivers are often shared by different devices made by the same company. But ASIO has a limitation of one driver at a time so if the big knob is an ASIO audio interface as well, then it will only show if it does use that same driver. I think it will have a (2) after the device name. The only other option is to use WASAPI shared mode but then tracks will record out of sync so don’t go there When they say an interface is class compliant that is mostly aimed at Mac users. If you didn’t install the ASIO driver the mixer would probably work fine with WASAPI mode but with the syncing issues
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You create a Celemony/ Melodyne account and purchase the version you want. The basic version is only $100 us and that’s all you need for audio to midi converting as well as single track processing of things like vocals.
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Lots of people never read the instructions that come with stuff? I find this very odd? Mackie usually supplies very good manuals with very easy to understand instructions with sometimes a little humour tossed in. I have 2 of their mixers the Pro EFx and a Mix8. None USB. The Mackie ASIO driver was not that great in the past. Hopefully they have released something better since I last used it.
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Sounds like you are using one screen and haven’t opened the multi dock full screen see video #8 for all the tips on using your multi dock. Video #3 also has lots of info on using Cakewalks skylight interface
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Did you demo of Melodyne expire? Or did you purchase a license?
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Making music is expensive, my RME Fireface II died...
John Vere replied to RexRed's topic in Instruments & Effects
Yes people get confused because a TRS cable is both an unbalanced stereo cable and a balanced mono cable. Pretty rare to use it for stereo other than in a headphones rig. The effects send you are referring to was not from auxiliary send jacks but is common for insert jacks. You then need a TRS to Y cable. But most pro quality mixers will use TRS outputs for Aux sends and sometimes the returns. Because Aux are mostly used for monitoring systems not effects. And an effects rack will be a short distance from the board but the monitor amp might be at the other end of a 300’ snake. Thank goodness those days are almost over and we can now use CAT5 or wireless It’s important to read the manual for all audio equipment and know what the connection jacks are as it can make a difference to how much noise you might get in the mains or monitoring. I’ve owned power amps that used only TRS inputs and 1/4” speaker outs, you most certainly can’t go by looking at a jack to know what they are. That’s why combo jacks rule now. You can assume they will be balanced. -
Making music is expensive, my RME Fireface II died...
John Vere replied to RexRed's topic in Instruments & Effects
Because my voice seems to sound the best on a Beta 58 after trying dozens and dozens of mike over the last 50 years I was thinking of the SM7b as well. They bash it on Gearsnobs site but I have a feeling it will sound at least better than my 58. My Joe Meek pre amp was very reasonable price and I like it a lot but I still would like to have something else too. I have one of those old Art tube pre amps with a tube in it. I even upgrade the tube. But I can’t really hear anything exciting about it. I used it mostly as a DI box when I do live sound. I totally avoid using phantom power in any of my audio systems. I’ve blown up way too much stuff with it over the years. That’s the other reason I don’t want any mikes that need it. I have a few small condensers that take batteries -
When you connect them Windows downloads and installs that codex driver so it different than others. You don't need to install asio4all. As I said I have a very similar interface made by them. I guess downloading asio4all is an option but people are pretty used to never reading instructions and just plug stuff in and go. You can see this is exactly what the OP has done. My guess is asio4all would have even more latency than WASAPI shared. I'm not sure what exactly happens when you use the USB Codex driver input but the Realtek output? I would try using just the USB codex output to see if that works and plug your computer speakers into the headphone jack of the interface. Out of curiosity I just plugged mine in and it works fine. I even played a very dense mix with a lot of plug ins. I used WASAPI shared mode like the OP. It also ran fine in WASAPI exclusive so both are supported. But It defiantly stalled when I tried to record a loopback test. Very sluggish. They are therefore a small step above using Realtek on board audio. You just get some proper jacks to use. One can do the loopback and adjust the timing offset in sync and caching if you choose to put up with work arounds. Top track, Yellow, is original audio drum track Middle track , Green, is the loopback using WASAPI exclusive which is 1/64 note late at 120 BPM Bottom track Blue is WASAPI shared which is 1/32 note late @ 120 BPM If you don't understand what this means it is to demonstrate what your guitars and vocals will be like if you try recording audio in WASAPI modes as apposed to ASIO. ( asio4all is WDM mode as said above, not ASIO. It would be even later.
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Making music is expensive, my RME Fireface II died...
John Vere replied to RexRed's topic in Instruments & Effects
I’m not sure what those devices are for? I was talking about a proper mike preamp like Joe Meek, Focusrite,Dangerous or Warm audio etc. and therefore bypass audio interfaces pre amps. Example I connect theJoe meek to my rear panel line level inputs so it is more or less direct to the A/D Haven’t had a chance to do any recording for a few weeks as I’m in live gig mode right now so focused on that. But I was going to try this and see if it’s better. Of great interest to me is your observations on transients of vocals. This is sort of opposite of my issue because I have to turn down to a average level of -18 db to avoid clipping with the Motu. In other words it’s hyper sensitive to transients. The Focusrite is a little better but it’s disappointing sound was why I bought the Joe Meek. The Tascam is more like what I’m used to from old school analog mixing consoles I can hit it much harder @ -8 db and it never clips. But it was made in 2008 and drivers last updated in 2015 I’m basically not happy these days with vocals and there’s probably a zillion reasons why so I’ll be working through the ones I can afford to fix starting with experimenting with what I have on hand. I’m thinking a better mike pre is in the future before waisting more cash on yet another interface or mike. I guess you can’t expect a $600 pre amp to be built in to a $400 interface. -
To correct what people are saying the Behringer actually uses a USB generic codex as you can clearly see in the screen shots. Asio4all is not involved here. It is a plug and play driver. I have an older Behringer interface that uses that same driver. It is just fine for playback and for working with midi only recording. You just can’t use it for recording audio without sync issues and what not. It may not support WASAPI modes. It will work just fine using the codex driver but with limitations of use as stated above
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Making music is expensive, my RME Fireface II died...
John Vere replied to RexRed's topic in Instruments & Effects
I believe you! But am also amazed that there could be THAT much difference in the pre amps? Most of the gear snobs will argue on sites like Gearspace for pages and pages on this topic. Probably a zillion posts about pre amps and how they do or don't vary that much anymore. But pre amps to me are the most critical part of the recording signal chain. I'm about to toss my Motu M4 in the trash for this and other reasons. I'm sorry Motu, but your pre amps and drivers suck compared to my Focusrite and Tascam units. But both of those are on the edge of driver support being 10 years and older. I need to have a modern interface and the funny thing is I was going to hold out to raise enough cash for the RME baby face. In the mean time I dusted off my Joe Meek 3Q ( stand alone Preamp) to see if that will solve the Motu pre amp weirdness I'm getting. Possibly owning a dedicated top quality pre amp is a better investment than upgrading an interface? -
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I agree with above. Sadly those interfaces are no better than using your on board audio system. They probably work fine with a Mac. If you can still exchange it get something like a Focusrite. These videos will help you learn more about what you are trying to accomplish. #1- Audio Set up- Try everything here and see if it helps first #20- How to set up an Audio Interface. # 103 for info on the purchase of a interface, kinda late now. #106- Why ASIO is important